Elite AI for all! - Patch Notes

Congratulations on finally making roleplay rounds logistically unviable.

Hello

What is a reason behind removing unit trading . It does not make sense at all and will make alliance games even more dependent on brainless activity. Not saying it will force some user and alliances to directly violate Rules and TOS to avoid units been stuck with less active players.....

what if someone prefers killing coalitions and not joining them? no more direct trades? uhmmm....and yes, please let us know the reasons leading to this decision

It would be much better to restrict trading resources to 10% of stock in storage and on market as weak players and multis use it to produce hundreds of units they should not have

than restricting transfer of 10% of units completely. Is it possible that game designer who had that idea- played 100 or 500 map alone and check what his change will cause. You sir difinitely removed any chances of stopping Golden Rush, Multi / Friendpack Rush or Activity based Rush purely with skills. Another change that is pushing away skills from that game and replace them with other means that have nothing to do with knowledge of the game.

If you are hoping to create ultimate blob strategy simulator - you are on the right path.

Why not to introduce auto-resolve button and instead of wasting players time - you resolve war with another country by having more provinces and more friends on map as a win indicator? If sitting longer in night than others is top strategy in that game .... then why to call it strategy at all.

Why not to call it Supremacy - simcity simulator or online activity checker

-1/10 for that update. No comment.

There is also simple rule: if you do not want to make you customers angry- you do not upgrade live products. Especially not in a way which affects sometimes 6 months of their hard work and GM usage. Team should have informed us about upcoming changes. I would be more than happy to see team acquiring such an information from devs in advance and sharing it with people on regular basis.

That would be nice, wouldnt it folks?

It doesn't matter anymore lmao, they've shown time and time again that they don't know what they're doing, whether that's the devs fault or the higher ups, I dont give a fuck

Units having their default being aggressive? No one liked it, everyone said to revert, we even had the promise of it being eventually reverted, and jack shit has happened. Units continue to clash at sea and accidental wars keep happening due to this bullshit

Imma go ahead an quit this game, and I advice everyone else to do it too, here's my main reasons for it (not all of themt)

-It's pay 2 win, and it's not even good at that. Goldmark is only tolerated because the game is free and because the dumb fucks who spam it are too bad at the game to actually make a difference. Never spent a dime on this, glad I haven't

-Wanna make constructive criticism to help the game? We banned you for having a bad opinion on us.

-new ui is bad too, but i dont care enough to keep going, im sure voicing my opinion is already enough to be banned so ill see yall somewhere else i guess

Every update now is just some poorly thought out way to kill the game further. Perhaps that's the intention?

But it's okay I guess as supremacy one will make some money from leeching off battlefield ones name. Why not put these "upgrades" into that and leave this one alone.

Every time the game is updated it gets worse. Everytime.

What happened to you bytro you used to be cool.

I do not like the new changes, specifically of not trading units and limit on resources, you have totally eliminated some of us whom use diplomacy or lack of diplomacy to play the mercenary role in these maps... prior to these set of changes Bytro 'nerfed' cav and arty units...I agree, that these latest changes will force [players into early rapid expansion thru use of Gold and anyone not using gold will be swallowed up in the rush....

I have witnessed other game sites do similar adjustments which push out the old garde players to bring in the cash cow new breed, , apparently this will now happen in S1914 via Bytro changes... what is more is that the term 'Bug Fix' seems geared only toward non-gold use strategies , any activity based bugs or gold use exploits like burning down airfields is not only termed as acceptable but is never fixed...Just my Opinion

There's something everyone should keep in mind, even if Bytro's games are slightly different, the updates are the same, I myself I'm always very curious to see how updates are perceived in each game and usually the reaction is the same.

Take a look: Market, trades and coalitions & Elite AI for all

Arcorian

Now that you will fight against the elite AI, you might want to know about your standing with the AI more often to avoid unexpected attacks. We have got you covered, as you now find the global popularity indicator in your nation profile giving you exactly that information!

• We added a global popularity indicator to the player profile showing the current standing of the player with the AI.

You didn't add anything new, this was already part of the rounds with Elite AI, the only new thing is that now we don't have to pay 5.000GM for it.

As my fellows explained, you basically killed roleplay and even if you killed alliance games in 2015, with this update you made sure they are dead.

Instead of making people, smartly, to need to indirectly use the diplomacy in a war game, you want it to be a childish game forcing people into coalitions and making them behave like 12 years old kids not allowing their friends to play with others outside their own group.

Arcorian

Finally, in order to add another layer of realism to Supremacy 1914 and make the game experience more balanced and fair to all players we took a look at trading in the game. The result are several changes like the removal of unit trading or limitations to resource trading with players outside of one’s own team or coalition (see the list below for details).

As everyone already told you, this is not adding another layer of realism, it could add some beauty to the text, but it's false, balanced yes, and fair, well, that's arguable.

So now , when I am killing a guy and he wants to surrender- there is no reason to leave him alive as :

1. he cannot give me any units I want

2. he cannot give me resources for a peace terms

3. I will not take peace for peace if I can crush him

what the hell?

Hallo, looking for the Logic, has anyone seen the Logic somewhere around?

Can I ask who was responsible as a gemedev for changes in trading?

Guys on the gamdev forum are laughing since 12 AM , at least someone has a food time

new bugs due to the update, yujuuuu

now, at day 71, you are no longer able to build more factories or queue them until your current construction ends, get your factory for only 5,99€, LIMITED UNITS

funny part, this only happens to some provinces, not all of them

also, it happens to all buildings that have levels

i think it's hilarious that they removed trading between neutral countries for the sake of realism, which is ironic to the point of being retarded already, yet kept province trading, because trading a big ass part of your country, now without the ability to be paid in resources, sure is realistic

game was to complicated with all this trading, exchanging troops and resources, paying tributes , offering reparations, helping friends , supporting international trade, building military bases, buying provinces, hiring mercenaries, sending expeditionary forces and so on.

You need to understand this is not what players like. To much complexity. To much gameplay posibilities. Toooo much fun.

now it is simple- you are alone and you can count only on yourself, you cannot expect a peace terms as you have nothing to offer. so it is either you or them. 0-1. black and white. So everyone can understand the game.

simple? I hope so as I do not want them to remove anything else like rows and share maps.

Golden Frieeza

game was to complicated with all this trading, exchanging troops and resources, paying tributes , offering reparations, helping friends , supporting international trade, building military bases, buying provinces, hiring mercenaries, sending expeditionary forces and so on.

You need to understand this is not what players like. To much complexity. To much gameplay posibilities. Toooo much fun.

now it is simple- you are alone and you can count only on yourself, you cannot expect a peace terms as you have nothing to offer. so it is either you or them. 0-1. black and white. So everyone can understand the game.

simple? I hope so as I do not want them to remove anything else like rows and share maps.

we could ask for the newspaper removal, too complex

yeah- i have same war described 3 times with different scores, not sure which one o trust. maybe it is realism of different publishers during the war...

same with spies- they always lie, remove their reports as they are edited, bribed and not trustworthy. double agents everywhere

Golden Frieeza

yeah- i have same war described 3 times with different scores, not sure which one o trust. maybe it is realism of different publishers during the war...

same with spies- they always lie, remove their reports as they are edited, bribed and not trustworthy. double agents everywhere

well i think S1 doesn't have spies, so there you go

Who will be protecting users from Master Controller and his rapid and drastic improvements of the system

How to stop CLU from removing all independent ISO-based players

Where is freaking TRON when you need him the most?

Why is not Flynn checking on his creation?

That and a lot more- in a new update.

nemuritor98

we could ask for the newspaper removal, too complex

I asked bytro to change the figures to stick figures and just make the game rock paper sissors...

Now after the jokes... As RPer, and user I can only say I agree with many users here... They effectively killed RPing no more trading no more landshuffline only coalition no more using factories for rent as additional income for small RP nations... Thank you for killing the way of playing that was the reason I was still here.

They also actively killed any lone wolfe player as he can not trade with random people to fill his needs. He can still fight the best he can but is kinda handicapped due to this.

On the banning, Bytro either needs to overrule me but as long as you guys keep it civil there wont be bans for giving your opinion. I still believe only with feedback can this game transform for the better. This is the second time bytro changes quite core mechanics that have been this way for years and years... They realize very well it will upset users but I believe they at times underestimate how much it upsets users.

To keep it civilised- How to start user's initiative to withdraw some changes? In a civilised manner.

I would be also interested in convincing Bytro to remove pre-last bug update. How to start such an operation? 30 completely new 'advanced tactics' in a new update- it is slightly to much. Especially for people who only use Hnr.

Should we make some kind of pool on the forum or is it better to do it on discord (but then Bytro can argue they cannot verify people's identity)

Golden Frieeza

To keep it civilised- How to start user's initiative to withdraw some changes? In a civilised manner.

I would be also interested in convincing Bytro to remove pre-last bug update. How to start such an operation? 30 completely new 'advanced tactics' in a new update- it is slightly to much. Especially for people who only use Hnr.

Should we make some kind of pool on the forum or is it better to do it on discord (but then Bytro can argue they cannot verify people's identity)

Last time I did that I made cross-server, in all languages, "spamming" chat for 4 weeks, sending private messages, making forum threads on announcements, etc. It was about maps for CoW. There was 1 first step of a public brainstorming for ideas, to which I think we got more than 60 different map ideas and then 3 eñiminatory rounds by voting to determina which map should go next. We got more than 400 unique votes and 800 total votes throughout the 3 rounds.

After this happened, a few months later, Bytro released 2 maps that were indeed the 1st and 2nd map from the poll.

I never asked Bytro for their commitment to the results, but from my POV, the popular movement was enough for them not only to get ideas but to also please the users.

No more trades and no unit transfers, this is simply ridiculous. We don't care about reality, we care about playability.

I never joined coalitions, but I still traded a lot.. So now what? You have just destryed half the game with this even though you might not have realised. What about alliance internal games where we would do a 5v5v5v5, 10v10, etc. we can't all join the same coalition, so we can't trade.. That's internal games ruined too. You have destroyed games between alliances and now the games in the alliances too. Well done.

And not being able to transfer units? In a good game, with good allies we would constantly do this.. What about alliance games where country nearest to enemy created all the cars and then transfered them? What about transfering some artis to your ally if he's not doing so well? What about coordination between allys?

This game is ruled by people that have no idea how the game actually works and these are the people that take all the decisions that ruin their game. How many competitive games have these actually played? (and I'm not talking about playing a public game for 10 days and defeating an AI).

This has got to the point where there is no trust in Bytro. You keep doing updates that no one wants, and then sometimes, if there is a big uproar like this time, you promise to look in to possible solutions and maybe revert it, but this doesn't happen or it take a very long time. Why can't this time invested in updates no one wants be invested in things you know we do want? Like fixing bugs, bringing back alliances, bringing back tournaments/leagues, etc.