Is this cheating

1 Feb 2018, 21:51

This looks like cheating. Is it possible for a player to have multiple accounts and be logged on to the same game....and then mass ship resources to one account in order to gain advantage?

Just asking......

France - Official government communiqué, 13:40

THese are the USA trades - One day ago - this does not look legitimate. Could the USA be controlling more than one country to gain advantage? How else would you explain this level of trading player to player in one day

Northern States of America

has the following resources:

13,364 44,112 39,548 12,709 1,036 53,505 149,344

Current stockmarket orders:

Sell Orders:

55,409

4.1 / unit

Last executed stockmarket orders:

Bought:

4.8 / unit 144

5 / unit 108

3.5 / unit

Last personal trade:

Right of Way - Right of Way successful

1429 Money - Share Map successful

643 Metal - Share Map successful

5000 Food - Share Map successful

25071 Money - Share Map successful

5000 Rare materials - Share Map rejected

Share Map - Share Map successful

2143 Metal - 8786 Oil successful

15643 Oil - Share Map successful

23143 Goods - Share Map successful

5000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Money - Share Map successful

16929 Rare materials - Share Map successful

Right of Way - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - 30000 Money successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

15120 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

100000 Money - Share Map successful

5000 Food - Share Map successful

15360 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Money - Share Map successful

Peace - Peace rejected

Right of Way - Share Map rejected

Right of Way - Right of Way successful

5000 Goods - Share Map successful

5000 Metal - Share Map successful

5000 Oil - Share Map successful

19500 Rare materials - Share Map successful

19286 Money - Share Map successful

Albany - Share Map successful

13571 Money - Share Map successful

14357 Metal - Share Map successful

19929 Goods - Share Map successful

3643 Food - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

30000 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Money - Share Map successful

20400 Goods - Share Map successful

30000 Money - Share Map successful

17520 Metal - Share Map successful

8160 Oil - Share Map successful

20400 Rare materials - Share Map successful

Share Map - Share Map successful

Peace - Peace successful

Ceasefire - Ceasefire rejected

Right of Way - Right of Way successful

52000 Money - Share Map successful

5000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

30000 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

5000 Food - Share Map successful

5000 Goods - Share Map successful

5000 Metal - Share Map successful

5000 Oil - Share Map successful

27643 Money - Share Map successful

7440 Metal - 7200 Oil successful

20786 Money - Share Map successful

5000 Metal - Share Map successful

12857 Goods - Share Map successful

5000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

3429 Oil - Share Map successful

3857 Oil - Share Map rejected

- Share Map successful

I 1 - Share Map successful

Right of Way - Right of Way rejected

I 1 - Share Map successful

5000 Food - Vienna rejected

24643 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

5000 Food - Share Map successful

27429 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

22286 Money - Share Map successful

17280 Money - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

30000 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

Right of Way - Right of Way successful

Share Map - Right of Way successful

Right of Way - Right of Way successful

5000 Metal - 5000 Oil successful

5000 Metal - 5000 Rare materials rejected

5520 Metal - 5760 Oil successful

30000 Metal - 30000 Oil rejected

Right of Way - Share Map rejected

Share Map - Share Map successful

4071 Goods - Share Map successful

4286 Metal - Share Map successful

1071 Money - Share Map successful

3000 Oil - Share Map successful

5000 Food - Share Map successful

Share Map - Share Map successful

5000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

5000 Metal - Share Map successful

5000 Goods - Share Map successful

Share Map - Share Map successful

5000 Money - Share Map successful

5000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

Satu Mare - Share Map successful

28975 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

3429 Money - Share Map successful

30000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

- Share Map successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

30000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

30000 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Money - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

12214 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

30000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

52000 Money - Share Map successful

14160 Oil - Share Map successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

30000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Oil - Share Map rejected

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

71429 Money - Share Map successful

25500 Oil - Share Map successful

56800 Money - Share Map successful

22320 Oil - Share Map rejected

Share Map - Share Map successful

Share Map - Share Map rejected

- Share Map successful

Uppsala - Share Map successful

13000 Oil - Share Map successful

20600 Rare materials - Share Map successful

50000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

28700 Metal - Share Map successful

44000 Goods - Share Map successful

19000 Food - Share Map successful

- Share Map rejected

Örebro - Share Map rejected

Right of Way - N 1 successful

30000 Goods - Share Map successful

30000 Metal - Share Map successful

30000 Rare materials - Share Map successful

21120 Oil - Sha

He who loves peace should prepare for war.

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1 Feb 2018, 22:43

This is an example of resource pushing, and is definitely cheating

Please use the report player button through the diplomacy menu to report the players involved. A screenshot using such a tool as lightshot or gyazo.com is helpful, but not necessary.

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2 Feb 2018, 02:59

Thanks. I will make the report.

I just hope that there are prompt and public consequences. If there is no action on cheaters then the game will become infested with cheaters and the player base will leave.

regards

Rundu

He who loves peace should prepare for war.

2 Feb 2018, 03:28

Cheaters have their accounts closed.

Not really much more to be done, unless you can program their computer to give them an electric shock or something. . .

5 Feb 2018, 03:14

Well...they said not to expect any action for 72 hours. It has been longer than that and there seems to be no action. The guy is still playing. I suspect that he is controlling 3 or 4 nations. Makes it pointless to play.

He who loves peace should prepare for war.

5 Feb 2018, 11:59

Each report is thoroughly investigated.

Reports are handled in the order received

These investigations take time as it is more desirable to catch all the related accounts than to simply ban the obvious account.

So in this case you think that player 1,2, 3, and 4 are cheating. That means 4 investigations. It also can mean checking to see if that behavior is repeated in other games or just this one.

on the surface there may be enough evidence to ban players 1 and 2, but players 3 and 4 may be more difficult to prove so an investigation might be paused for a few days or more to gather more evidence.

There also can be times when the evidence is not as clear when looking at the history for the whole game. Your case lists a tremendous number of trades in one day. If there are further trades in opposite directions on other days the evidence gets muddied and less clear.

Justice will be done in the end.

7 Feb 2018, 14:42

Nearly a week and still no action on this issue.

He who loves peace should prepare for war.

7 Feb 2018, 16:45

I would say that it is likely that your plan to catch them redhanded was compromised by posting publicly about it here. It may have given them a chance to cover their tracks or create an alibi.

If they got a tip that a raid was coming they may have been able to destroy or compromise the evidence. When crooks have time to prepare they are harder to catch.

7 Feb 2018, 17:18

I see what you mean. It would probably have been best to simply report and then play on.

Thanks for the advice

He who loves peace should prepare for war.

7 Feb 2018, 20:14

pushing is not punished by some GO's:

https://www.pic-upload.de/view-34801026/insanepusher.png.html

https://www.pic-upload.de/view-34801024/insanepusherindia.png.html

Answer of GO: Hello,

I see no signs of cheating here

Best Regards

7 Feb 2018, 20:28

An investigation of cheating involves more than just resource trading of course. I frequently give surplus resources to my allies, but it doesn't mean I am cheating. I also don't see a problem with the quantities that you posted Last Warrior. The quantities in the original post definitely merit investigation.

7 Feb 2018, 20:33

on historic map you have other amount of daily encome...

12 Feb 2018, 01:13

8,000 resources really isn't much. You aren't hindering yourself, to help an ally. Plus, half of what trades were shown, were rejected. So it looks twice as bad as it is.

Spy reports also only show so much. It's very possible, that there is stuff the GO sees, that you cannot.

Because deleting messages and trades does not hide them from Game Operators, if the player was cheating, xe would have been caught.

If you are 100% sure that it was cheating, ask for SGO Mathex or MA Aeblemost to take a second look at the case. Even if higher staff has already looked at it, a second look is always possible if you really think a player was cheating. However, based on the part of the signature you show, I know who worked the ticket and trust they worked the ticket, correctly. Mathex or Aeblemost can still take another look if you ask.

To ask for a second look, just reply to the PM you had gotten, and ask them if another staff member can double check.

Free Time looks good on me

12 Feb 2018, 08:41 (edited)

WiseOdin wrote:
8,000 resources really isn't muc

You need new glasses. On the picture there are 4 trades. overall 38k goods and 38k oil. for historic map it is really great ammount of help. But it is not enough. I killed 3 times his full strikeforces. But nobody can win parental credit card player...*************************

14 Feb 2018, 03:30

Last Warrior wrote:
WiseOdin wrote:
8,000 resources really isn't muc
You need new glasses. On the picture there are 4 trades. overall 38k goods and 38k oil. for historic map it is really great ammount of help. But it is not enough. I killed 3 times his full strikeforces. But nobody can win parental credit card player...*************************

Ah, so you're mad at him for spending money, and supporting the game servers. That's why "He must be cheating and staff MUST remove him."

Free Time looks good on me

14 Feb 2018, 09:40

WiseOdin wrote:
spending money, and supporting the game servers

It is me who supported servers. Without me this "greatest player all times" would not spent a single penny.

And if he wasted as much ammount, why the hell tried he first get ressources for free, but after that didnot worked used his ace.

14 Feb 2018, 18:58

@Rundu Have they still not gotten back to you on this issue?

The past is a foreign country.

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