Arty & Rocket Arty Damage / Terrain Bonus Not Working?

2nd attack it only reduced the med tanks hp from 55 to 27

Every battle has an "X-factor" where the result of your attack can deviate with 25% in your favour or against you. As you know the first casulty of a battle is a battle plan. A battle never goes as planned. So with every attack there's a luck or chance factor implemented of 25%. This is the reason that every attack can give another value which results in a different amount of Health Points inflicted on the enemy unit.

But 15 is 33% of 45 and 28 is about 50% of 55, well far off from 25%

It happened again

Med tank stack has 64.7 hp

I have inf, arty, rocket arty stack. Both has the same number of units, same levels and same hp.

Each stack should deal around 36 damage, with the two of dealing a total of 72 damage.

lvl 2 arty deals 3.6 dmg vs heavy

lvl 2 rocket arty deals 2.7 dmg vs heavy

lvl 1 rocket arty deals 1.6 dmg vs heavy

Each stack has 4 lvl2 arty, 3 lvl 2 rocket arty and 1 lvl1 rocket arty

3.6 x 4 = 14.4

2.7 x 3 = 8.1

1.6 x 1 = 1.6

14.4 + 8.1 + 1.6 = 24.1

24.1 x 50% for terrain bonus as the terrain is hills = 36.2

36.2 x 2 because there's 2 stacks = 72.4

But as you can see, the med tank's hp is 20.2

64.7 - 20.2 = 44.5

The two stacks only dealt 44.5 dmg

With the 25% X factor, the dmg should've been at least 54

25% of 72 is 18

72 - 18 = 54

44 is about 65% of 72, again way off of the 25%

What's interesting is that if we take the 50% terrain bonus out of the equation, the dmg would just be 48 - much much closer to 44 and is certainly within the 25% X factor.

72 - 24 = 48

Could it be like overkill or smth?

honestly, i think you found a problem with the game..

Our QA can try to reproduce it.

One more possibility: Perhaps there is a stealth unit in the army which soaks up parts of the damage.

oh, i never thought about that, that happened to me once before.

freezy wrote:

One more possibility: Perhaps there is a stealth unit in the army which soaks up parts of the damage.

it could be Militia, it is very strong at high levels and if required early game would be spammed to make.

Karl von Krass wrote:

it could be Militia, it is very strong at high levels and if required early game would be spammed to make.

Karl von Krass wrote:

it could be Militia, it is very strong at high levels and if required early game would be spammed to make.

Happened again in my pacific conquest game and this time, it's 100% sure there's no militia.

Enemy has 43 stack of unarmored n light units

Here's the dmg distribution of the the 43 stack

I have 10 lvl 3 arty

Dmg vs unarmored = 3.2

Dmg vs light = 4

3.2 x 10 = 32

4 x 10 = 40

For dmg distribution, 79% of the stack is unarmored so unarmored dmg x 0.79

32 x 0.79 = 25.2

For light, 21% x light dmg

40 x 0.21 = 8.4

Total dmg

25.2 + 8.4 = 33.6

For terrain bonus

33.6 x 0.70 = 23.5

33.6 + 23.5 = 57.1

My arty stack should deal somewhere around 57.1 dmg to the enemy stack, but as you can see in the pic below, it did not.

It only did 36 dmg

638.2 - 602.2 = 36

Also, he forced march his stack so the actual dmg done by my arty is >36, but to keep things simple let's just say that my arty stack did 36 dmg

36 is more than 60% of 57, way way more than the 25% X factor

And like the example above, if we take the 70% terrain bonus, the expected dmg would just be 33.6 — again, much much closer to 36 and well within the 25% X factor

Lastly, after a few hrs of battle, Siam surrendered and he gave me share map. Remembering that the culprit could've been stealth units like militias as you guys suggested, I immediately looked at his stack to look for militias and there were none.

Perhaps you destroyed the militia during battle?

Emperor Im wrote:

Perhaps you destroyed the militia during battle?

Does it get reported on the news casualty report if you kill a stealth unit without seeing it? Cus i can check it

I checked it, the only casualty of Siam in the casualty report are 2 interceptors

I have noticed a similar process occuring happening in my swift strike gane as @Z. Sakki does. My artillery isnt producing damage as stated

Our QA actually confirmed that there is a problem with terrain bonuses right now. It apparently affects all units, not only artillery. We will work on a fix.

One more thing, after Siam gave me share map, a number of "unknown army" units appeared on some of his provinces.

When i check them, it just says unknown army even though he gave me share map.

Z. Sakki wrote:

One more thing, after Siam gave me share map, a number of "unknown army" units appeared on some of his provinces.

When i check them, it just says unknown army even though he gave me share map.

Should I make a separate thread about this?