Cancelling unit upgrades

According to CoW Wiki, once a unit begins an upgrade it cannot be cancelled. And it can only defend itself. I guess this is another rule that either has a bug or was changed. It just happened to me. Attacking battleships with my subs. 3 enemy cruisers were there also upgrading. Then they weren't and attacking my subs. There was still 50 minutes left. And when I was upgrading I don't recall seeing an option to quickly finish it...was I mistaken?

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If this is a cheat I can supply the player name and game number

upgrading does not mean they cannot be involved in battle. in the case of land units I am not sure how that revolves when upgrading on enemy soil, because in general the unit is then forced into attacking modus

Nostroma wrote:

If this is a cheat I can supply the player name and game number
You may wanna double check the wiki, if this is still so, i would recommend reporting them, units can only, defend, which means no bombardment.

Gen. Smit wrote:

upgrading does not mean they cannot be involved in battle. in the case of land units I am not sure how that revolves when upgrading on enemy soil, because in general the unit is then forced into attacking modus
bombarding is impossible during upgrading.

The Wiki was very clear. The enemy cruisers were not part of the battleship stack and were upgrading. My subs attacked the battleships, not the cruisers. 5 minutes into the combat the cruisers suddenly stopped upgrading (with 50 minutes left) and started shelling my subs.

So who do I report this to?

Nostroma wrote:

So who do I report this to?
The link in my description down below. send a ticket,.

Thank you. Ticket sent

The sprites were maybe separate from the stack, like usual in the upgrading proces, but they are maybe still in the same stack (i.e. in the same position/location on the map), how bombarding is treated for seafaring vessels as compared to artillery at land is a second question.

Gen. Smit wrote:

The sprites were maybe separate from the stack, like usual in the upgrading proces, but they are maybe still in the same stack (i.e. in the same position/location on the map), how bombarding is treated for seafaring vessels as compared to artillery at land is a second question.
Upgrading. Units. Can. Not. Bombard.

How many times will i say it before you believe me, seemingly never, because you keep saying bombardment is possible during upgrading.

He's hypothesizing that maybe the cruisers were in the same stack as other units that were being upgraded but the cruisers themselves weren't being upgraded. No need to be an ass about it.

Bombardment is absolutely possible during upgrades.

Set a stack of cruisers to Offensive fire control while in range of a target.

Start an upgrade. Nothing happens. The cruisers keep firing.

Set the cruisers to Fire at Will. They stop firing. Upgrade begins.

Set the cruisers back to Offensive. They start firing again. Upgrade is paused.

You can do this as long as you want, the ships will pause/resume upgrading as needed.

As stated earlier, bombardment during upgrades is NOT possible unless the unit being upgraded is attacked. It can then legally defend itself but the upgrade is cancelled in the process. has to be restarted from the beginning, thus losing the upgrade cost. Must be repaid.

On another related note, I spoke with the player in question and I am satisfied that he is as mystified as I was. Maybe what was said was true. The cruisers were not in the exact same location as the BB's but close enough to be considered together.

You can protest loudly as you want, but fire control pauses upgrades. Try it. Don't believe me. Give it a try.

Nostroma wrote:

As stated earlier, bombardment during upgrades is NOT possible unless the unit being upgraded is attacked. It can then legally defend itself but the upgrade is cancelled in the process. has to be restarted from the beginning, thus losing the upgrade cost. Must be repaid.

On another related note, I spoke with the player in question and I am satisfied that he is as mystified as I was. Maybe what was said was true. The cruisers were not in the exact same location as the BB's but close enough to be considered together.

I am not sure it is working like this, I have been attacked while upgrading, and I thought it was paused, or continued to upgrade. cannot remember certainly though, anyone else?

z00mz00m wrote:

Bombardment is absolutely possible during upgrades.

Set a stack of cruisers to Offensive fire control while in range of a target.

Start an upgrade. Nothing happens. The cruisers keep firing.

Set the cruisers to Fire at Will. They stop firing. Upgrade begins.

Set the cruisers back to Offensive. They start firing again. Upgrade is paused.

You can do this as long as you want, the ships will pause/resume upgrading as needed.

i was under the impression that they did not have premium

jubjub bird wrote:

He's hypothesizing that maybe the cruisers were in the same stack as other units that were being upgraded but the cruisers themselves weren't being upgraded. No need to be an ass about it.
units upgrading and units not upgrading can be in the same stack, BUT the sprites will always be separate

z00mz00m wrote:

Bombardment is absolutely possible during upgrades.

Set a stack of cruisers to Offensive fire control while in range of a target.

Start an upgrade. Nothing happens. The cruisers keep firing.

Set the cruisers to Fire at Will. They stop firing. Upgrade begins.

Set the cruisers back to Offensive. They start firing again. Upgrade is paused.

You can do this as long as you want, the ships will pause/resume upgrading as needed.

This is a good point, biut will this also work when the ships arrive later in range while upgrdaing already started, because now they were in range before, and reading the fir command that makes sense, but it should not be able to interrupt, reading the upgrade command, this is thus a "bug" in the coding or a "privilege" of high command users ;)

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