Commandos

One must take into account the X factor

Yes there’s a random factor but it’s more than that. The tank’s HP in city was 12.5 and defense 3.9 (6 minus 50% and plus 15%). The commandos combined HP was 50 and attack of 6.25 (5 plus 25%). So after 2 rounds the tank should be destroyed instead of winning. Adding the X factor and saying the tank performed at best of 3.9 and that the commandos performed at worst of 0 (yes let’s say that their minimum attack value was 0 every time) then it should have taken the tank 14 rounds to destroy the commandos. For them to be destroyed in 2 hits shows there’s something really wrong with their stats or their algorithm.

Use Battle calculator to calculate but it is not 100% accurate because of X factor.

It is quite simple in this case: The planes defend the city, but commando's have zero attack value against planes.

Tomek wrote:

Commando stats are wrong

.. as Vorlon says, the planes defend the city as long as the city has not been conquered, or as the airbase is usable -- however even commandos have low attack values against planes:

see here >> forum.callofwar.com/thread/14126-for-more-variety-on-the-battlefield <<

.. so, when ground units attack planes on the ground >>

>> if there are no defending ground forces, the province will captured immediately (because planes [and rockets] can not conquer or hold provinces), the planes automatically become trucks (which are armor class Unarmored), and the attacking units use their offensive values against the armor class >> Unarmored (Commandos = offensive damage 10) -- on the other hand trucks just have 0.3 defense value ..

>> or, if defending ground forces are present, the enemy planes remains aircraft-class (as long as the the airbase is operational or the province has not been captured) -- and as long the planes stay aircraft class, the attacking units use against them their offensive values against the armor class >> Aircrafts (Commandos = offensive damage 1.5) -- and the planes of course defend with their usual stats ..

(propable to avoid confusion ?, (so far) attack-values against Aircraft-class will not displayed in ground/navy units-info because this is the only and rare situation, where they can be used).

Thank you VorlonFCW and Restrisiko. They should keep the plane graphics as flying or some type of standby when in base. Or just add defense values against land units to planes and attack values against planes to land units.

VorlonFCW wrote:

The planes defend the city, but commando's have zero attack value against planes.

gusv wrote:

VorlonFCW wrote:

The planes defend the city, but commando's have zero attack value against planes.

But Tomek was talking about grounded planes! ... In real life a squad of commandoes (or any other decent infantry unit) with automatic weapons and explosives could knock out a lot of grounded airplanes- until they run out of bullets and explosives! ...

>> so first at all the Commandos have to reach the airbase, and to do that they have to fight the ground troops defending the way to there (as Tomek says the enemy province / airbase is defended by tanks, so until the Commandos reach the airbase, and as long as the airfield is usable, the planes are ready for use -- what maybe is missing or wrong here is the incorrect visual representation when planes on the ground are attacked, whether from ground or air units) >>

>> and only after that, when there are no more defending ground units (or if the airfield becomes unusable as already described in my post above), the Commandos have an easy game with the planes since the planes are alone now and they can't hold a province, so the terrain is changing for them and they have only stats as defending trucks (no airfield = change from aircraft-class to unarmored-class) -- and this is the scenario as described by you .

Restrisiko wrote:

however even commandos have low attack values against planes:

gusv wrote:

But Tomek was talking about grounded planes!

The airbase at the province center was defended by ground units. This allows the planes to remain as planes and defend themselves. The ONLY time that planes are helpless and vulnerable is during the brief refueling period, or if the airbase has been damaged to a level that makes the planes turn into convoy trucks.

gusv wrote:

In real life a squad of commandoes (or any other decent infantry unit) with automatic weapons and explosives could knock out a lot of grounded airplanes- until they run out of bullets and explosives!

In a case with no ground units present to defend/hold the province/airbase then yes, the airbase is immediately put out of commission by the attacking enemy, and the planes are helplessly turned into convoys.

Tomek wrote:

They should keep the plane graphics as flying