Cruisers inefective

a. it's level 1

b. strength is listed at 0.5

Dont expect miracles

Was expecting something a little less than 48 hours of constant bombardment to kill one L1 infantry unit.

narf0708 wrote:

In game 1070133, I've had my first cruiser bombarding the one enemy infantry unit in Copenhagen for nearly 24 hours now. The unit was not killed, but only brought down to 49% morale. This seems to me to be unaccountably feeble.

As I'd rather not wait another 24 hours to kill the unit entirely, I'm going to be testing how the cruiser fares against a troop transport boat.

Akulla3D wrote:

narf0708 wrote:

In game 1070133, I've had my first cruiser bombarding the one enemy infantry unit in Copenhagen for nearly 24 hours now. The unit was not killed, but only brought down to 49% morale. This seems to me to be unaccountably feeble.

As I'd rather not wait another 24 hours to kill the unit entirely, I'm going to be testing how the cruiser fares against a troop transport boat.

I think this is good. Cruisers cannot destroy land units in general. You are thinking like you are playing s1914 which is stupid when it comes to this. Plus the cruiser would run out of ammo after 24 hours anyway and not be able to bombard for days on end without replenishment.

As you research higher levels (as with most units) they become much more effective.

Wilhelm von Roos wrote:

Akulla3D wrote:

narf0708 wrote:

In game 1070133, I've had my first cruiser bombarding the one enemy infantry unit in Copenhagen for nearly 24 hours now. The unit was not killed, but only brought down to 49% morale. This seems to me to be unaccountably feeble.

As I'd rather not wait another 24 hours to kill the unit entirely, I'm going to be testing how the cruiser fares against a troop transport boat.

I think this is good. Cruisers cannot destroy land units in general. You are thinking like you are playing s1914 which is stupid when it comes to this. Plus the cruiser would run out of ammo after 24 hours anyway and not be able to bombard for days on end without replenishment.

I think that they must have a little better firepower, or build vessels will be useless since there are no comercial routes to keep. I wouldn't research and build ships just to use them 1 or 2 times in a disembark.

If cruisers can't destroy even one measly infantry unit within a reasonable amount of time(and higher levels won't solve anything. L1 cruisers and infantry really should have the same strength ratio as max level cruisers and infantry), they're entirely useless for defending during a beach landing, and therefore are entirely useless in this game in general.

narf0708 wrote:

If cruisers can't destroy even one measly infantry unit within a reasonable amount of time(and higher levels won't solve anything. L1 cruisers and infantry really should have the same strength ratio as max level cruisers and infantry), they're entirely useless for defending during a beach landing, and therefore are entirely useless in this game in general.

This game isn't supposed to be a copy of the real war, so for balance reasons, the naval units need to be efficient against the land ones.

That isnt the cruisers role.

Hey Neph, heres a fun fact!

• Cruisers supplied amphibious gunfire support to land forces at the start of wars until the more operationally expensive battleships could be reactivated

Currently cruisers are designed to be a versatile unit against other naval units, but ineffective against land units. Battleships can take the role you expected (bombarding cities).

Cruisers can still support landing operations by 'shielding' damage from disembarking land units.

Ships seem weak against land units in general, but they are also hard to destroy by land units (including artillery). So the only alternative to naval units to control the seas are naval bombers.

That said, we will still increase the land-damage of sea units a bit (probably by 50-100%).

and please make it possible to make damage to shiped land units Needed to be fixed!

My cruiser supported my landing well...at its current strength.

Too many of you are reliant on the battleships of s1914, this ISNT s1914

Also, cruisers in WWII were most commonly use to protect the bigger ships, especially from air attack.

'Cruisers can still support landing operations by 'shielding' damage from disembarking land units.'

you mean by drawing arty fire? or is it poss to have them in a stack disembarking somehow?

It will draw damage (from Artillery and Airplanes) by just being very close to the disembarking units.

rastermannMB wrote:

and please make it possible to make damage to shiped land units Needed to be fixed!

If it is bombarding units on land, will it's AA's shoot at enemy aircraft within range?

Cruisers will defend against attacking aircraft, and they can damage aircraft positioned at the bombardment target. They can not use their range attack against flying airplanes (patrolling or otherwise active).

Well it never arrived at me .. (What a luck) but I presume that if you receive a 105 shell from a destroyer, it's rather the same as from a self-propelled gun ... it good be interesting to give destroyers a few fire power! No?

Butter Ball Bill wrote:

Hey Neph, heres a fun fact!

• Cruisers supplied amphibious gunfire support to land forces at the start of wars until the more operationally expensive battleships could be reactivated

Got this from one of my reliable sources. If they were not used for this, what were they for? Hmmm?Hmmm?