how some bombers lvl1 doing so much damage to my cuisers lvl3

my troops are close to africa

he has this stack against mine: 22 tactical bombers lvl2 - 8 naval bomeber lvl1 - 3 attack bombers lvl 3

against my navy ships: 1 BB lvl 4 - 8 cruiser lvl 3 - 1 destroyer lvl4

and i am taking damage = 100 hp every time they complete a patrol over me it went from 560 to 377

and i deal about 30 damage to their total hp (1184) every time they patrol over me and they are now at 1014 hp

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pls someone explain how the calculation were done cuz its definately missed up

if not the calculation then the cruiser lvl3 are useless against the lvl 1 naval bombers, thats CRAZY !!

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Your math seems a little off.

If they had 1184HP and they now have 1014, then you did a total of 170 HP damage to them throughout this fight.

If you had 560HP and you now have 377HP, then you received a total of 183 damage throughout this fight.

So the total damage to you is 183 and the total damage to them is 170.

If that is the case, then it can't be true that you are taking 100HP damage every tick their patrol ticks and they are receiving 30HP damage simultaneously.

Secondly...His attack bombers are doing a lot of damage (even more than the navy bombers, on a per unit comparison). Why? Because Level 3 Attack bombers attack navy units at about 9.5 (depending on the doctrine) whereas level 1 Navy bombers attack at about 7....you would think that L3 cruisers would be very strong against L3 attack bombers...and they are to some extent because they have a lot more HP, but...if you are just looking at damage, L3 cruisers do not do a lot more HP damage (11 HP damage per direct hit on Air units) than L3 attack bombers (9.5HP damage per direct hit on navy units). Keep in mind that L3 attack bombers are available on Day 6 units, whereas L3 attack bombers are not available until day 10...so the L3 attack bombers can actually be quite effective against L3 cruisers.

"First they ignore you, then laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win".- Mahatma Gandhi
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wellุŒ i said 100 per patrol and that is definately not correct.

The real numbers ara written below, I said 100 cuz i was so fraustrated.

While your calculation on the first point seems reasonable but dont you think my ships shouldve done much more higher damage !

lol...sorry about that...I get told all the time that i take things too literally....I guess this is another example of that.

The #'s seem reasonable, but I can't say for sure without knowing what your doctrine is and what their doctrine is.

"First they ignore you, then laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win".- Mahatma Gandhi
"Nobody can hurt me without my permission".- Mahatma Gandhi commenting on his perspective on Call of War.

I play as allies doctorine (australia)

And he is playing belgian congo (which i am not sure which doctrine is it?)

I don't know what doctrine belgian congo is.

Let me ask in the questions section...

"First they ignore you, then laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win".- Mahatma Gandhi
"Nobody can hurt me without my permission".- Mahatma Gandhi commenting on his perspective on Call of War.

ok... It looks like Belgian Congo is Axis. so let me do the math (this should be fun!).

Two notes, though, first.

1. I don't have a game open now, so my #'s could be a little off...but i have notes on attack values, so if my numbers are off, it will be by just a little bit (not significantly off).

2. Something seems off with your original description....If i add up all the HP's for Congo's stack, I am getting that their stack, even at 100% health should be 815. You described it as 1184 to start, so....I am wondering if there were some other units in there??? Anyway, if those extra units were less powerful than his Navy Bombers and Attack Bombers, it won't make a difference, but...If they were more powerful, then it would make a difference. For example, if he had more than 3 attack bombers, that would make a big difference because they are his strongest attackers in this fight.

Anyway...here is the calculation i am coming up with...

Axis would be attacking with 7 L1 Navy Bombers and 3 L3 attack Bombers.

7 navy B's attack at 7 each, for a total of 49 attack points per hit.

3 Attack B's attack at 9.5 each, for a total of 28.5 per hit.

so his stack would attack at 77.5 HP per hit.

Since it was on patrol, this would be cut in half, which = 38.75 per patrol tick.

This is assuming his units are at 100% health.

Your stack would be defending with all 10 units in your stack:

1 BB L4 defends at 4

1 Destroyer L4 defends at 5

8 cruisers L3 defend at 11 each

so your defense would be: 4 + 5 +88 = 97.

Divide this by 2, because attackers are patrolling and your defense per patrol click is 48.5.

BUT....you are not at 100% health going into the fight. You are at 75.7% health (560HP that you have divided by 740HP that you would have if at 100% health).

There is a sliding scale for health, without showing the math I can tell you that your stack would be defending at about 81% of their normal defense when your health is at 76% (560HP/740HP = 76% health).

So...You were really only defending at 81% of 48.5 = 39.3HP per patrol hit at the beginning of this fight.

So, really, it was an even fight (in terms of HP lost per attack) at the beginning of the fight (39.3HP vs. 39HP).

Unfortunatley, as the fight went on, however....you got weaker quickly and he got weaker slowly.

Let me explain...at the end of the fight, you had 377 HP. At that point, your health would be 46%.

At 46% health, you defend at 57% of your total ability to fight when 100% healthy.

So, now you are defending at 27.6HP each click...not 39.3 per click like you were getting at the beginning of the fight.

Axis, however, is still hitting you at a high # per click, though, as his/her health has not gone done as much as yours.

Specifically, His/Her health would have gone down to 1014 from 1184 (according to your original message)...this = 86% health. at 86% health...he would still be hitting you at 89% each click.

89% of 39 = 34.7. So each patrol click, at the end of the fight, he is hitting you at 34.7HP and you are only hitting him at 27.6HP.

On average, throughout the fight...you would have hit him at about 33.5.

On average, throughout the fight, he/she would have hit you at about 36.9.

In 5 patrol clicks you should do this much damage:5 X 33.5 = 167.5

In 5 patrol clicks he/she should do this much damage: 5 X 184.5

Actual damage that you reported from you to him/her = 170

Actual damage that you reported from him/her to you = 183

Those actual damage #'s are extremely close to the anticipated damage #'s...and remember there is a variable factor (20% maybe??) for each attack...So....I would say the actual damage #'s seem fair/reasonable vs. what should be expected for this fight!

"First they ignore you, then laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win".- Mahatma Gandhi
"Nobody can hurt me without my permission".- Mahatma Gandhi commenting on his perspective on Call of War.

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