PL July

why the changes? I think each one of them is unreasonable.

What is tech stacking? I haven't seen that defined in any of the threads.

Mihai, what is unreasonable about it? Please elaborate!

Lawrnece, tech stacking is the use of the SAME unit (for example: tactical bombers) of DIFFERENT levels (some of L1, some of L2), in the SAME stack. It is meant to negate SBDE limits (the max number of effective units), because each of the levels have there own SBDE limit. So you can effectively use ten tactical bombers in one stack, where you could usually only use five.

kmacbobo..im in

"There is one rule change, published in the rule thread, which forbids tech stacking, number ten.

Map choice will depend on the amount of sign-ups. Since I suspect many players will be on holiday, this will be a half-point round: all points gained will be divided by two for the season score. HOWEVER, before the round starts, I will assign several super-bonus provinces in different regions of the map; for example: "Controlling Prague will give 30 bonus VP". It will be FORBIDDEN to trade these bonus provinces."

1) Half-Round points - everybody has holidays at different times, so it is unfair to other people to only score half of the points now. If anything, half point games should be the ones played on larger maps, like this month's game, as you can score a lot more points in the games on bigger maps VS winning the smaller maps.

2) Super bonus provinces also give certain countries an unfair advantage, and as I understand the whole point of Pl and it having rules such as NO Gold is to have as fair and even game as it can possibly be.

Im definitly against the half points thing, and for the supe bonus it should be divided evenly on the map to ne fair which will be a headache for the organisers

Is there a shallow end of the pool for us newbies? A no splash zone perhaps?

I'm in clevelandguy

Clevelandguy wrote:

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Mihail, sure people take holidays year-round, but july is most popular, and I think it should be appreciated. You could also see the round as an appitizer.

Super-bonuses: they can be a blessing or a curse. And yeah they will be distributed along the map evenly.

K.Rokossovski wrote:

Clevelandguy wrote:

I'm in clevelandguy

Please post n the signup thread, I'll post passwords to people in THAT thread.You too, kmacbobo.

Mihail, sure people take holidays year-round, but july is most popular, and I think it should be appreciated. You could also see the round as an appitizer.

Super-bonuses: they can be a blessing or a curse. And yeah they will be distributed along the map evenly.

As I explained above, neither one of those make any sense whatsoever, it does not benefit anyone, and changes the whole game upside down.

WIth the first one "half-points" , you are screwing people who take holidays not in July ( August is a very popular month for HOildays too). The only logical reason to reduce points in the game would be when we have enough players for larger maps, thus it will even out the victories on either maps.

With the "bonus provinces", you change the whole concept of PL, especially bundling it with half points.

Roko, please take me off the list for next round. I don't want to participate in the game with such stupid new unilaterally enforced rules for this round, it is not a player's league anymore, but a mockery of one.

Everytime before when ANY new rules were introduced or implemented, it was put to a discussion for the players to decide whether or not it was a good for game experience and fair to players.

Right now , with your approach to just go ahead and make changes to the rules whenever YOU desire so to whatever YOU want , I refuse to be a part of it.

Just rename it to Rokossovski's league, because it is most definitely not a Player's League anymore

Well I'm sorry that you feel that way, especially since these are hardly gamebreaking changes.

Nonetheless, your poll is right next to this thread. Let me know if you reconsider.

pls never America map again. its a joke.

playing normal Europe map, or if to many players, play in pacific.

Half points... why??? most part of season we play in 24ppl map with 1x points rules. One time we played in stupid America map, and now half the poits? Last round was very very bad, and i dont say it because i died first. To many AI players, to little naval forces need.

Now released mobile device. I think we can play normaly, in normal Europe map. 20 player already singed. Or arent in a 30-40 ppl map?

With one withdrawal, we now have exactly 22 sign-ups, so the next round will be played on the 22p map. The map will be created around lunchtime, server time. It will be a half-point round, partly to allow people to have their summer holiday, and partly for a rule experiment: achievements.

Achievements:

These are meant to provide players with incentives to go out and achieve something, instead of turtling up and fighting only for the last few days.

There will be bonus points available for the FIRST coalition that achieves any of the achievements listed below. These are one-time bonuses, available ONLY to the first team to achieve them; anyone achieving them after that gets NO points. Achievements must be claimed by the coalition achieving them to the moderator within 24h from doing so. If cities part of the achievement are consequently lost, proof must be provided that all cities were held at the same time. Bonus points are rewarded on the day they are achieved, and will be recorded in the WH and on the forum. They cannot be lost.

Achievements available:

Territorial achievements:

Mediterranean dominance - control Gibraltar, Istanbul, Port Said, and Valetta at the same time. 20 points.

Baltic dominance - control Stockholm, Leningrad, Danzig, and Copenhagen at the same time. 15 points.

North Sea dominance - control Lille, Aberdeen, Bergen and Hamburg at the same time. 12 points

Atlantic dominance - control Dublin, Lisbon, Casablanca and New York at the same time. 20 points.

American dominance - control Quebec, Philadelphia, Jacksonville, and Havana at the same time. 12 points.

Balkan dominance - control Vienna, Bucharest, Belgrade, and Athens at the same time. 12 points.

Central dominance - control Berlin, Rome, Paris and Warsaw at the same time. 15 points.

Iberian dominance - control Bordeaux, Marseilles, Madrid, and Lisbon at the same time. 8 points.

African dominance - control Rabat, Algiers, Tripoli, and Cairo at the same time. 12 points.

Nordic dominance - control Halifax, Reykjavik, Murmansk and Archangelsk at the same time. 15 points

Eastern dominance - control Helsinki, Moscow, Kazan, and Kiev at the same time - 15 points.

Black dominance - control Sevastopol, Istanbul, Adana, and Tblisi at the same time. 15 points.

Alps dominance - control all original provinces of Switzerland and Austria at the same time. 8 points.

Global dominance - control Washington, London, Berlin and Moscow at the same time. 40 points.

(223 points possible)

Trading provinces on this list is still allowed, but an achievement will not be available to a coalition that recieves any of the provinces of that achievement in trade. Furthermore, if there are reasons to suspect that an achievement is "given away", the moderator may choose to decline the point reward for the achievement.

Several people banding together into a coalition to immediatly grab one of the achievements IS allowed.

Other achievements:

Be the first nation to achieve 100 points at day change (individually, scored for coalition) - 5 points

Be the first nation to achieve 200 points at day change (individually, scored for coalition) - 10 points

Be the first nation to achieve 300 points at day change (individually, scored for coalition) - 15 points

Be the first nation to achieve 400 points at day change (individually, scored for coalition) - 20 points

Be the first nation to achieve 500 points at day change (individually, scored for coalition) - 25 points

(when more than one nation qualifies at the same time, points will be split)

(75 points possible)

After day 5, be the first nation mentioned in the active ranking category (financial, economical, military, etc) in the WH - 2 points (Reward is repetitive - each day qualifies again)

(50 points possible)

For half point rounds, all achievement points will also be halved.

The 22p map has a total of about 1,000 VP's, and all achievements together can yield a maximum of 348 points. This means that they are a substantial part of the scoring, but by no means vital.

Ridiculous.............

i can see a lot of heated disputes in the future. Why so complicated? I was thinking of trying PL for the first time, but why buy into this train wreck?

Sometimes less is more.

Half point round is a joke.... i said we played 5/6 game in 22p map. I cant understand why we need half point.

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