20 active players from 100 players

Noobs decide they dont wanna do it.

and about 1/5 players are somewhat expirienced.

Undaunted wrote:

always when I played world war 100p map , there are about 20 players , there are 4 coalitions with full members and a few one member coalition with who will go inactive after two days , I never saw 40 or 60 player

why it is always close to 20 , is there any mathematical explanation about this ? what do you think about it ?

Also, does anybody know why Goias is so powerful?

Lord Crayfish wrote:

Undaunted wrote:

always when I played world war 100p map , there are about 20 players , there are 4 coalitions with full members and a few one member coalition with who will go inactive after two days , I never saw 40 or 60 player

why it is always close to 20 , is there any mathematical explanation about this ? what do you think about it ?

I've seen otherwise. I've played a few and generally there seem to be 80 or 90 active in the first day (a few twits log in and do absolutely nothing), 60 after the 2-day inactivity period finished, and 40-30 after a week. Only in the endgame when most countries have been eaten up by the empires, are there fewer than 10 (though generally five or six countries are very powerful). But maybe I'm lucky.Also, does anybody know why Goias is so powerful?

Undaunted wrote:

Lord Crayfish wrote:

Undaunted wrote:

always when I played world war 100p map , there are about 20 players , there are 4 coalitions with full members and a few one member coalition with who will go inactive after two days , I never saw 40 or 60 player

why it is always close to 20 , is there any mathematical explanation about this ? what do you think about it ?

I've seen otherwise. I've played a few and generally there seem to be 80 or 90 active in the first day (a few twits log in and do absolutely nothing), 60 after the 2-day inactivity period finished, and 40-30 after a week. Only in the endgame when most countries have been eaten up by the empires, are there fewer than 10 (though generally five or six countries are very powerful). But maybe I'm lucky.Also, does anybody know why Goias is so powerful?

I meant coalition section generally have 20 player

Lord Crayfish wrote:

Undaunted wrote:

Lord Crayfish wrote:

Undaunted wrote:

always when I played world war 100p map , there are about 20 players , there are 4 coalitions with full members and a few one member coalition with who will go inactive after two days , I never saw 40 or 60 player

why it is always close to 20 , is there any mathematical explanation about this ? what do you think about it ?

I've seen otherwise. I've played a few and generally there seem to be 80 or 90 active in the first day (a few twits log in and do absolutely nothing), 60 after the 2-day inactivity period finished, and 40-30 after a week. Only in the endgame when most countries have been eaten up by the empires, are there fewer than 10 (though generally five or six countries are very powerful). But maybe I'm lucky.Also, does anybody know why Goias is so powerful?

I meant coalition section generally have 20 player

What exactly is meant be coalition section?

Are you counting players that are still active but haven't joined a coalition?

jubjub bird wrote:

Are you counting players that are still active but haven't joined a coalition?

you can think If a player dont join to coalition at first days he will go to inactive %90

I'm talking about first days

I almost never join a coalition until after day 4 because I want to see who goes AI. My guess is there are some players you're missing who aren't in coalitions.

I don't understand why people tend to join games, then proceed to abandon them. If you know you won't be spending time playing, what's the point of hopping into it in the first place. Looking at the Europe - Clash of Nations (22p) map, most of them are level 1 players (who are probably playing their first game). Yet, almost all of these newcomers give up right away without making a single actions. It makes me wonder if they are real players or not, as their usernames are always "user + a string of numbers, like an ID".

I am by no means an experienced player, and I know this is obvious to most, but the "abandon rate" is extremely high. What's my point? Uh...just puzzled about why some players join and give up almost instantly.

Per5eu5 wrote:

makes me wonder if they are real players or not, as their usernames are always "user + a string of numbers, like an ID

Per5eu5 wrote:

I don't understand why people tend to join games, then proceed to abandon them. If you know you won't be spending time playing, what's the point of hopping into it in the first place. Looking at the Europe - Clash of Nations (22p) map, most of them are level 1 players (who are probably playing their first game). Yet, almost all of these newcomers give up right away without making a single actions. It makes me wonder if they are real players or not, as their usernames are always "user + a string of numbers, like an ID".

I am by no means an experienced player, and I know this is obvious to most, but the "abandon rate" is extremely high. What's my point? Uh...just puzzled about why some players join and give up almost instantly.

I consider myself and others, upon logging on, to have made an implicit commitment to the other players to continue playing. It goes under mutual respect and also a sense of honour in battle. Ideally we should play to the end; if one goes inactive due to getting bored, he does not value others' experience, which we all must try to do.

However, like most commitments it can be sacrificed. If education, family, work, or for some, religion, get in the way I see nothing wrong with quitting in those circumstances, although a warning is courteous.

But yes, I agree that inactivity is the worst problem with the community. Ultimately it's an attitude thing, I think. Maybe we need our own equivalent of the sociopathic little Duolingo Owl that sends passive-aggressive threats if you don't participate in a game you're playing.

There's lot of people who use new accounts or user names but have played the game for years. Sneaky.

jubjub bird wrote:

I almost never join a coalition until after day 4 because I want to see who goes AI. My guess is there are some players you're missing who aren't in coalitions.

I think it's mainly the fear of starting a game with 99 different players who could potentially attack you which often makes many newish players join coalition so that they can be safe against that more aggressive type of players, which, tbh, is rarely the case. So no, i do not think there's a more complex explanation about human psychology and behaviors/etc about this

Most of the coalitions that are formed on day one are really weak. Usually too closely packed to have any expansion space. It is like a doomsday sign, "when you join one you will be wrapped up quickly by some shark". I often take on five man coalitions in my home continent and beat them all on my own.