won’t ever have time to read that but sounds fun they should add that but all the trouble when they already have 1939 Ok.GrandEmpire wrote:
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Historic World War 1941
I really think a Historic World War 1941 should be released. Im sure people are gonna say it will be unbalanced, but the point is for it to be historic. Whats more, it wouldn’t be THAT unbalanced.
Europe:
British Empire- exact same as normal Historic, but more fighters, research a bit more, more ships, less land troops. Better construction, more naval ports and air strips/factories. Buildings damaged.
France- In this map, France will be split into Vichy France (independent state) and german occupied France. Vichy France will have little army, no navy and no air force, and be in possession of all of France’s colonies from normal Historic. Its buildings will be a lot less, research will also be reduced.
Spain- exact same as normal, slightly more powerful
Italy- exact same as normal, less navy, Libyia deserted, less land units, buildings and research a bit more advanced
Germany- in possession of Denmark, Belgium(excluding colonies), Netherlands(not its colonies tho),Norway, Luxembourg, Occupied France, Poland, Yugoslavia and Greece. Homeland buildings and research very advanced, but little construction on occupied territory. Occupied France will see less than a quarter of Germany’s normal starting West Army. Norway, Denmark, Yugoslavia will almost be deserted. Very few units in Greece. A BEEG force in Poland, (This map is right before attack on USSR). The navy has a bit more ships. Air force somewhat smaller than normal.
Romania, Bulgaria, Portugal, Danzig, Balts, Finland, Sweden- All armies strengthened. Finland and Romania focused troops against USSR.
USSR- Few fortifications on border with the German Empire. A lot more soft units than normal. Some more research. Lots more units. Construction vastly improved. Navy a bit stronger. Units concentrated but spread out near Europe. In control of 11% of Finland.
Turkey, Iran, Egypt, South Africa, Arabia, lesser Middle East Nations- slightly stronger
India, lesser Asia nations- stronger slightly.
Euro colonies in Asia- weaker
China- more territories lost to Japan, slightly stronger, construction even weaker
Comm. China- Much larger and more units
Manchuria- exact same as normal
Japan- Navy larger, land forces “much” larger, all units poised for taking Pacific and striking Pearl Harbour. Construction not much different. Research quite a bit more.
Aussi boi- just a tad bit stronger
Canada, Mexico, lesser American nations- slightly stronger
United States- somewhat stronger, largely the same, construction a lot better.
Brazil- bit stronger
ALL OTHER NATIONS- SLIGHTLY STRONGER
I may have missed something, so do tell me if I have. Also remember all troop positions are historically accurate. Because construction in occupied areas is almost non-existant, Germany WONT be that strong. Plus everyone is stronger and Germany is somewhat “weaker”. Also all the nations are quite similar, and plus Vichy France is there too, so this map is balanced enough to exist.
WHAT ABOUT Historic World War 1943
British Empire- Now owns Libya and Ethiopia, has lost Asian colonies. Much larger air force, navy and a bit bigger land army. Lots more construction and research.
France- Mainland fully occupied by Germany, but colonies now “Free France”, medium stronk. Indochina now Japanese.
Spain- exact same as normal, slightly more powerful
Italy- navy very weak, weak land army, weaker in general.
Germany- in possession of Denmark, Belgium(excluding colonies), Netherlands(not its colonies tho),Norway, Luxembourg, Mainland France, Poland, Yugoslavia and Greece, as well as accurate advance into USSR. Homeland buildings and research very, very advanced, but only some construction on occupied territory, NO construction in occupied USSR. France will see few planes, few units. Norway, Denmark, Yugoslavia will almost be deserted. Very few units in Greece. A BEEG force in accurate places in USSR, concentrated on Stalingrad, Leningrad. The navy has a bit more ships. Air force quite a bit smaller.
Romania, Bulgaria, Portugal, Danzig, Balts, Finland, Sweden- All armies strengthened. Finland and Romania focused troops against USSR.
USSR- has lost Finland. Major fortifications against Germany. Incredible number of infantry, stronger army and research. Construction much, much better. Owns northern Iran.
Turkey, Egypt, South Africa, Arabia, lesser Middle East Nations- slightly stronger
Iran- now british Iran. North owned by USSR.
India, lesser Asia nations- stronger slightly.
Euro colonies in Asia- all conquered by Japan.
China-even more territories lost to Japan, slightly stronger, construction better
Comm. China- larger and more units
Manchuria- exact same as normal
Japan- Navy smaller, land forces “much” larger, research more construction similar. In possession of French, British, Dutch colonies in Asia. Owns Phillipines. Pacific positioning historically accurate.
Aussi boi- stronger
Canada, Mexico, lesser American nations- slightly stronger
United States- Much, much more research and construction. Much stronger navy, air force and army.
Brazil- quite a bit stronger
ALL OTHER NATIONS- SLIGHTLY STRONGER
I may have missed something, so do tell me if I have. Also remember all troop positions are historically accurate.
Finally- Historic World War 1945
British Empire- Now owns sicily, southern Italy, Normandy, some of Northern France, beeg air force and army and beeg navy. Also owns Asian colonies.
France- Owns southern Portion of its Mainland, and all former colonies.Known as “Free France” still.
Spain- exact same as normal, slightly more powerful
Italy- non existant. Northern part occupied by Germany. South by UK.
Germany- in possession of Denmark, some of Belgium, Netherlands(not its colonies tho),Norway, Luxembourg, little bit of Poland, Yugoslavia and Greece. Homeland buildings weaker, incredibly advanced in research, but almost no construction on occupied territory.Norway, Denmark, Yugoslavia will be deserted. Navy almost gone, Air Force almost gone. Western forces pretty large and advanced, focused on Belgium (This map is before Ardennes Offensive). BEEG fortifications on Western border. Lots of units out west. Holds a bit of Poland. Few units east.
Romania, Bulgaria, Portugal, Danzig, Balts, Finland, Sweden- All armies strengthened.
USSR- Owns much of Poland. BEEG stronk.
Turkey, Egypt, Iran(now whole) South Africa, Arabia, lesser Middle East Nations- slightly stronger
India, lesser Asia nations- stronger slightly.
China-doin better than HWW 1939.
Comm. China- larger and more units
Manchuria- exact same as normal
Japan- Navy much smaller, empire much smaller, few land forces and planes. Empire in BEEG trouble.
Aussi boi- stronger
Canada, Mexico, lesser American nations- slightly stronger
United States- Much, much more research and construction. Much stronger navy, air force and army. BEEEG force in Europe. In possession of much of France. Poised against Japan. Has 1 nuke OR has nuclear research done.
Brazil- quite a bit stronger
ALL OTHER NATIONS- SLIGHTLY STRONGER
I have almost definitely missed stuff. Tell me.
These maps are not THAT unbalanced. 1941 is fairly even tbh. 1943 has beeg Germany, but its occupied construction is weak and its forces in USSR arnt that good. USSR can match it. Japan is also stronk in 1943, but also beaten up pretty bad. 1945 USA and USSR are BEEEEEEEG stronk, but Germany does have a chance, and UK can match them too. Plus rest of world also stronker. Tbh 1945 Japan doesn’t really stand a chance, but that’s the fun of historic.
We could also have HWW 1939-1940-1941-1942-1943-1944-1945. But I skipped years to get more even, for example 1942 Germany is far too strong for this game
M8s, I know Bytro will never do this, but hey I had nothing to do so I wrote this.
Also yes, i will return to CoW if these maps r made(but they wont be)
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I'd say the opposite. Remember the naval combat around norway. it was catastrophic for the german surface fleet.GrandEmpire wrote:
The navy has a bit more ships.
grrrr, one of my pet peeves is when people quote long postsLarry is god lol lol wrote:
won’t ever have time to read that but sounds fun they should add that but all the trouble when they already have 1939 Ok.
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dude.............. and a pet peeve heard of it but what is it. Plus I just quoted the post to make it clear I was responding to him.RBoi200 wrote:
grrrr, one of my pet peeves is when people quote long postsLarry is god lol lol wrote:
won’t ever have time to read that but sounds fun they should add that but all the trouble when they already have 1939 Ok.
A pet peeves is something someone is really annoyed about. And your reply was the first in the thread so it should have been clear enoughLarry is god lol lol wrote:
dude.............. and a pet peeve heard of it but what is it. Plus I just quoted the post to make it clear I was responding to him.RBoi200 wrote:
grrrr, one of my pet peeves is when people quote long postsLarry is god lol lol wrote:
won’t ever have time to read that but sounds fun they should add that but all the trouble when they already have 1939 Ok.

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Mmmmhmmm indeed
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true, but 1. Britian gets more ships and is already waay to OP navy, also Germany produced a bunch more ships/subs, and had some captured ships, so overall ship units should increasewhowh wrote:
I'd say the opposite. Remember the naval combat around norway. it was catastrophic for the german surface fleet.GrandEmpire wrote:
The navy has a bit more ships.
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i think 1941 should definitely be added, 1943 less so, As 1941 was a very interesting point of time during WW2
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True, karl, but 1943 is also cool and kind of both less even and more even. 1945 would be kool because you think can Germany make a comeback and who will win East or West, or any other scenario invented by players
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yes
Germany is overpowered.GrandEmpire wrote:
Please stop quoting long posts!
Second person to quote a long post IN ONE THREAD. WHEN CAN PPL STOP!?!?!? IT DRIVES ME NUTS!!! (sorry for all caps)Tre wrote:
Germany is overpowered.

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How bout a ongoing hww where the power of each countries gets more/less powerful.GrandEmpire wrote:
We could also have HWW 1939-1940-1941-1942-1943-1944-1945. But I skipped years to get more even, for example 1942 Germany is far too strong for this game
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germany is not OP in any of these maps. 1941 Germany can easily lose, There is vichy france, plus little construction in occupied areas, And remember historic alliances are NOT followed so Italy can attack. In fact i think 1941 Germany is UNDERPOWERED since its a big target for its neighbors, plus UK and USSR are still strong.
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dude you know what’s annoying to me is you saying this so please just keep it to yourselfRBoi200 wrote:
Second person to quote a long post IN ONE THREAD. WHEN CAN PPL STOP!?!?!? IT DRIVES ME NUTS!!! (sorry for all caps)Tre wrote:
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This pet peeve annoys everyone, only RBoi is vocal about it thoLarry is god lol lol wrote:
dude you know what’s annoying to me is you saying this so please just keep it to yourselfRBoi200 wrote:
Second person to quote a long post IN ONE THREAD. WHEN CAN PPL STOP!?!?!? IT DRIVES ME NUTS!!! (sorry for all caps)Tre wrote:
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It is irritating.
I think they must add new maps , this would be so op for this game
Wait, who edited Tre and Larry's posts to make the quotes say, "stop quoting long posts!" Whoever did that is the best mod ever.
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also back to topic, let's create poll, to see how many want it. How about the options be: a) Atleast 1 out of the proposals by GrandEmpire.
b) 2 maps out of the proposals
C) All the maps proposed
And then a secondary poll to Rank the Individual maps.
EDIT: a NOTA vote should also be present in both polls
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