I just looked back at that thread, I was 232k with Japan on day 6 for comparison.whowh wrote:
The US is just huge and has a ton of potential. People really don't realize how big the US really is industrially
16 Apr 2021, 21:55
Best Countries for Historical World War 25 player 1.5
US: The US has a really high resource production each day. Although, it starts with one of the weakest armies in game. However, you could build up massive armies due to the overpowered production capabilities that it possesses. Also, the Allied Doctrine helps a lot with faster production speeds. Also, US has a really powerful navy at the beginning, which will protect you from most initial threats towards the two coasts at the beginning. The political situation is really stable at the beginning because the only two neighbors Canada and Mexico are unlikely to attack you at the beginning. They're more likely to become allies or friends with you rather than enemies.
USSR: Similar to US it has a massive industrial and resource output. Unlike, the US it actually starts with a decent army of around 50 units or more. However, the tech has to be upgraded before the USSR could really try to defeat countries like Germany or Japan. The one shortcoming is that it is in the range of powerful countries like Germany and Japan.
Germany: It has a decent resource output and a decent industrial capability. However, it has the strongest army and strongest Air Force at the beginning of the game. However, one drawback is that the diplomatic situation is really dangerous for Germany and it can get attacked from multiple sides if one is not careful.
France: It has the second strongest army at the beginning of the game and a strong navy. It has a good resource output and good industrial capabilities. However, the political situation of France can also become disastrous. Most of the times, at least two neighbors will attack you at some point in the game.
Italy: It has a decent army at the beginning, but its Air Force is almost non-exsistant. However, it has a strong navy with many battleships. Also, its industrial capabilities and resource production are pretty strong.
Nationalist China: It starts with a crap military in general. However, with careful development and research it can become one of the strongest nations in game. In most games Japan won't be confident enough to invade you in the beginning. Even if they do you could simply withdraw your troops and ambush Japanese troops until the army is weakened. Also, it has many cities and plenty of resource production which makes it a capable industrial power.
Let me know if I missed anything or if any of my statements are inaccurate.
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16 Apr 2021, 21:57
By 232K do you mean plus in a day?
and do you mean all resources or on one resource.
16 Apr 2021, 21:58
Also I have a question for you, do you advise upgrading resource production non-core cities or non-core provinces first?
16 Apr 2021, 22:06
It's just the number they quote in the paper. I believe it's the sum of the gross output of all resources other than money and manpower. I normally gauge it more by the "+ per hour" on each resource because that's the number I see.whowh wrote:
By 232K do you mean plus in a day?and do you mean all resources or on one resource.
+1500 is achievable on day 6 with the US in metal, oil, rares. You can build food/goods from there.
I guess my answer is cities because I think only cities have doubles. You should do non-core doubles first before you do non-core provinces. You should do all your core local industry first though.whowh wrote:
Also I have a question for you, do you advise upgrading resource production non-core cities or non-core provinces first?
16 Apr 2021, 22:38
Thx for answers and I should have realized you were talking about the newspaper.
17 Apr 2021, 22:25
Until you meet a madman like me who choses Canada, attacks you at day one with a Mot Infantry and artillery spam and you are totally conquered at day 4whowh wrote:
The US is just huge and has a ton of potential. People really don't realize how big the US really is industrially
You shouldn't build industry in non core territory, as they produce only at 25% but your industry still costs 100% of the resources you will rarely get a return of investment. Just develop your industry in your cores in both urban and rural provinces.whowh wrote:
Also I have a question for you, do you advise upgrading resource production non-core cities or non-core provinces first?
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17 Apr 2021, 23:11
But canada is peaceful!BMfox wrote:
Until you meet a madman like me who choses Canada, attacks you at day one with a Mot Infantry and artillery spam and you are totally conquered at day 4
17 Apr 2021, 23:14
No the heck it isn't.
I got conquered by canada because the player was a force march gold using mad manwhowh wrote:
But canada is peaceful!BMfox wrote:
Until you meet a madman like me who choses Canada, attacks you at day one with a Mot Infantry and artillery spam and you are totally conquered at day 4
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18 Apr 2021, 09:50
I'm inclined to agree with this position. I still wouldn't say never. If you finish your home industry and it looks like there's still some game to play, you might consider building industry in non-core doubles. Always, always, always, finish core industry first before even considering building in a non-core province.BMfox wrote:
Until you meet a madman like me who choses Canada, attacks you at day one with a Mot Infantry and artillery spam and you are totally conquered at day 4whowh wrote:
The US is just huge and has a ton of potential. People really don't realize how big the US really is industriallyYou shouldn't build industry in non core territory, as they produce only at 25% but your industry still costs 100% of the resources you will rarely get a return of investment. Just develop your industry in your cores in both urban and rural provinces.whowh wrote:
Also I have a question for you, do you advise upgrading resource production non-core cities or non-core provinces first?
18 Apr 2021, 12:16
You know, once i defended as USSR against UK, Italy, India, Japan, Germany, Persia.BMfox wrote:
USSR: Starts with mainly infantry branch and is therefore vunerable to an attack of Germany who runs high on tanks. The country is huge and almost undefendable. If Russia is at war with a larger nation like Germany or often underestimated Japan then you can be sure that all those small Asian countries will start eating you away slowly. The many Asian countries that all fear Russia combined with both the chance of ending up in war with multiple European and Asian countries at the same time makes it quite challenging.
Cant be defended, huh?
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21 Apr 2021, 12:15
Make it a challenge. I started as Afghanistan and finished in the Top 5 for total Provinces. I joined a Coal and we finished in 1st place.
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21 Apr 2021, 12:29
No offence, but-especially since you were in coa- i think defending as USSR against Japan, UK, India, Persia, Germany, Italy, and didnt mention AI Finland, ALONE AND losing only TWO urbans is a much greater feat than what you did
“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
21 Apr 2021, 12:50
I won as Tannu Tuva once. I just trolled russia and mongolia then germany decided to be my ally.
21 Apr 2021, 13:09
yep Whowh that is a better achievement. Unless of course, you count when i as USSR managed to DEFEND against Tana Tuvu. Also whowh go to our game
“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
21 Apr 2021, 13:11
Off topic but help someone this province is vital and i need to know which troop is in it
“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
21 Apr 2021, 13:19
NUKE IT ALL, or spam militia
21 Apr 2021, 13:24
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“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
21 Apr 2021, 14:01
@whowh you need to go to the game. There are only 3 spots left.
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