I see a ton of players that, in my opinion, over-invest in the air force. They make both attack bombers and tactical bombers in addition to interceptors, but usually have twice as many bombers as they do interceptors. Or in worse cases I've seen as many as 80 bombers, whether it's one or two types, with not even 20 interceptors.
They invest far too much in the air force to do the army's job and it works against the average public player so they think air force is the key to victory.
I just think it's a little foolhardy because what do you do if you come across an enemy who uses AA and has more interceptors than you? I've seen a few players suggest strategic bombers or rockets to hit air strikes, but that can be countered (although it rarely is) and it takes even more research away from the army.
What are your thoughts? Is investing the majority of your military in the air force worth it?
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If I'm being honest, I think your confidence in your own skill far outweighs your actual skill level. Klusey is right on this, if you ignore anti-air entirely and still win it's because you're playing against bad players.
I'm assuming your user name in game is also "Fox-Company" and I don't think your record or stats prove what you think they prove
Im talking about making no Fighters and AA, those K/D ratios provei do neither but still do fairly well, plus im pretty sure calling people who are 130+ bad is not gonna bode well, i can start recording my enemies levels and K/D and C/L to prove i am better, most people i fight just never expect my stupid strategy so it works.jubjub bird wrote:
If I'm being honest, I think your confidence in your own skill far outweighs your actual skill level. Klusey is right on this, if you ignore anti-air entirely and still win it's because you're playing against bad players.I'm assuming your user name in game is also "Fox-Company" and I don't think your record or stats prove what you think they prove
People expect to see some AA resistance in higher level players, but i have none, so i can speed my way through just about anything, actually, i fought someone in a WaW who had 70~ air units, day 32, and i still won with only having 15 NB's and 2 lvl 1 fighters.
Level does not matter, it just means you've played a lot of games. (I also don't think K/D or C/L are the greatest indicator of skill but they're better than level.)
You have killed 1900 PVP units over 80 games, a rate of less than 25 PVP kills per game. I stand by my conclusion.
You simply refuse to acknowledge i am just a decent player, i will not argue anymore, and i will go on believing i am correct, which i am, i do not need AA or Fighters, and i will continue not using them.
Your PvP ratio does not register as valid, this is my only account, plus i do RP's, so many of the games do not count.jubjub bird wrote:
Level does not matter, it just means you've played a lot of games. (I also don't think K/D or C/L are the greatest indicator of skill but they're better than level.)You have killed 1900 PVP units over 80 games, a rate of less than 25 PVP kills per game. I stand by my conclusion.
Little lvl 1 Fox-Company liked to expirement and joined more games than he could handle.
Well, you and I can agree on that at least.Fox-Company wrote:
i will go on believing i am correct
I'm not trying to convince you that you aren't good, I'm just pointing it out for others who may be considering your advice.
Yeah don't do what i do kids, you will most certainly die, you must be absolutely dumb and have no brain to win in the redicilous ways i do.jubjub bird wrote:
Well, you and I can agree on that at least.Fox-Company wrote:
i will go on believing i am correctI'm not trying to convince you that you aren't good, I'm just pointing it out for others who may be considering your advice.
What isn't valid about it? I'm pointing out that your conclusion ("I'm good at PVP") is not supported by the data that you yourself brought into this conversation, your stats. You do not have enough of a record to conclude that you're good at PVP when facing good players. Your choice to ignore Ints and AA entirely is a poor decision, and the fact that it has worked out against bad players isn't evidence of anything.Fox-Company wrote:
Your PvP ratio does not register as valid, this is my only account, plus i do RP's, so many of the games do not count.jubjub bird wrote:
Level does not matter, it just means you've played a lot of games. (I also don't think K/D or C/L are the greatest indicator of skill but they're better than level.)You have killed 1900 PVP units over 80 games, a rate of less than 25 PVP kills per game. I stand by my conclusion.
Little lvl 1 Fox-Company liked to expirement and joined more games than he could handle.
What do you consider 'good' KD CL and Level apparently aren't it.jubjub bird wrote:
What isn't valid about it? I'm pointing out that your conclusion ("I'm good at PVP") is not supported by the data that you yourself brought into this conversation, your stats. You do not have enough of a record to conclude that you're good at PVP when facing good players.Fox-Company wrote:
Your PvP ratio does not register as valid, this is my only account, plus i do RP's, so many of the games do not count.Little lvl 1 Fox-Company liked to expirement and joined more games than he could handle.jubjub bird wrote:
Level does not matter, it just means you've played a lot of games. (I also don't think K/D or C/L are the greatest indicator of skill but they're better than level.)You have killed 1900 PVP units over 80 games, a rate of less than 25 PVP kills per game. I stand by my conclusion.
It depends. I take K/D into account when evaluating someone, along with the maps they typically play, their ratio of PVP kills per game, and their win rate (and plenty of other factors)
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If you can, check the PvP from my last 7 games, and then come tell me it doesn't work, that would be 2 WaW's, a HWW, 2 CoN's(Training Alliance members) 1 CoN game once i joined back after 5 months just to check the game, an Antartica, and a AcAi(Played as Panama) Oh wait, forgot a Pacific i played like 2 months ago, i used no AA or Ints and won that too.
As far as I know you can't look at stats from specific sets of games. It'd be nice if that was possible, especially when evaluating people who were around in the COW 1.0 days when K/Ds were lower.
You aren't going to convince me with anecdotes, and it doesn't really matter. I'm standing by my point that your advice is not good advice, and that you're trying to argue it by invoking a conclusion that is not supported by your own stats.
Interceptors are one of the most important units when playing against good players.
My point was not giving anyone advice, try reading everything i wrote again, i pointed out that (I DO THIS) And it works, never told anyone else to do it, just my preference, and it works, and Ints aren't important to me, your argument is an opinion.jubjub bird wrote:
As far as I know you can't look at stats from specific sets of games. It'd be nice if that was possible, especially when evaluating people who were around in the COW 1.0 days when K/Ds were lower.You aren't going to convince me with anecdotes, and it doesn't really matter. I'm standing by my point that your advice is not good advice, and that you're trying to argue it by invoking a conclusion that is not supported by your own stats.
Interceptors are one of the most important units when playing against good players.
What is your point in claiming that it works and is your preference if not to give it as perceived advice to those in this thread? Why post at all, is it to brag?
How do you rush enemy if airport is 6 hrs away?
Then only strats would be in range unless its an all mountain country, in which case i would make some Militia or Commandos and send those in after my main stacks to seek out the AirportClaudio NVKP wrote:
How do you rush enemy if airport is 6 hrs away?
As you can see, someone said you must have Air Units, i said otherwise, not bragging, just saying you can win without Air Units.Fox-Company wrote:
I have won 16 games with no airforce, including 2 Pacific's, a 2 HWW's , 2 Homefront's, and Multiple CoN's.ralltcat wrote:
i can only speak for myself but i try to build evenly. that is pretty much for ground and air units, this also goes for their upgrades as well. eg,,, 10 level 1 tacts 10 level 1 attack and 10 level 1 interceptors then upgrade them all to level 2 before building more however each game is different and you mat need more of a certain type. as for your question are they over produced ? probably so but you have to have them. i have never played a game were they were not vital to getting a win
I like strategic bombers
I always use them
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