A good amount of discussion here involves strategy. I’ve had some great naval battles where tactics can be decisive to the game.
23 Sept 2023, 19:28
Can you win this naval battle?
You can play as Red, White or both. Pacific Conquest. What do you do. What do you think happened?
Context: (all numbers approximate)
Red: S India is a gold abuser. Larger fleet (~3000) is 14 BS lvl 4, 7 destroyers lvl 5 and the rest carriers. He has 15 lvl 5 fighters and 15 lvl 4 naval bombers patrolling out of sight. He is too far from any airstrip to leave carriers.
Other red fleet is Aus ally. No planes and even mix of BS and Cruisers lvl 2/3 with 5 destroyers lvl 3. Around 1000 hp. He showed up after engagement. (That sucked).
White: playing as Utah: Has been fleeing from S India fleet for 3 days (northern white fleet returning from a full trip around S Australia and North P New Guinea). Fleet is beat up around 12 lvl 4 BS (cruisers killed) but with 3 lvl 3 carriers and 10 lvl 5 naval bombers and 6 lvl 4 fighters in decent shape. The rest of the fleet is lvl 3 transports.
Southern fleet 7 lvl 4 Cruisers and 7 lvl 4 BS, 6 lvl 3 subs 4 lvl 4 carriers and a lvl 3 destroyer. Again, remaining ships lvl 3 transports.
The squadron on Apia is 6 lvl 4 fighters, 15 lvl 5 naval bombers, 3 lvl 3 Tacs and 4 lvl 1 rocket fighters (that made it ashore before big red fleet arrived. 5 more sent off to hide in the Pacific). Air factories on Apia, Suva and Niue.
Each fleet is around 1800 hp.
Air power for S India and Utah hp more or less equal.
Edit Red fleets destroyed air factory on Suva. White planes had to refuel on Apia
That should be enough to have some fun. I’ll check back in a few days to let you know what actually happened. [attach=18757][/attach]
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23 Sept 2023, 20:38
Interesting. Have you tried upgrading and using naval bombers and subs?
23 Sept 2023, 20:40
As long as they keep bombarding the island your chances get higher as you get free hits. I’d have to say that you will probably win as you have far more ships (even if a lot of it is just health stuff). Maybe you could go for a melee attack so the convoys do extra damage? Making good use of your planes is probably important as well.
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
23 Sept 2023, 20:41
In my experience, micro-managing ships is most important in naval battles. You can strategically split them up and attack in diff stacks and then merge them again if you time it correctly for example!
Have a blessed day <3
23 Sept 2023, 20:42
Moving in and out of range in order to get equal shots in is also a smart idea. If you want you can split enough destroyers to take a few hits while your battleships stay healthy, though that only works if they are not active.SamPGS_17 wrote:
In my experience, micro-managing ships is most important in naval battles. You can strategically split them up and attack in diff stacks and then merge them again if you time it correctly for example!
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
23 Sept 2023, 20:48
Good stuff already. Planes were decisive.
23 Sept 2023, 20:48
See @pod_than? Naval bombers get the job done!NickXXXNick wrote:
Good stuff already. Planes were decisive.
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
23 Sept 2023, 20:49
also have you tried using spies? They could give some intel on ships. Other than that naval bombers and good navy tactics should be good
23 Sept 2023, 20:59
Carking got the transports to absorb damage 100% correct. For the Southern fleet 100%. I lost 15 or more land units. No warships were lost by that fleet.
Red did not know about northern carrier group. No damage was done to any ship of Northern fleet.
What would u do as red?
23 Sept 2023, 21:01
oh… his alliance is 20 cities away from a win.
23 Sept 2023, 21:17
Not really. Planes yes, but fighters more important.Carking the 6th wrote:
See @pod_than? Naval bombers get the job done!NickXXXNick wrote:
Good stuff already. Planes were decisive.
23 Sept 2023, 21:36
They still helped though? Damn man you didn’t have to do me like that…NickXXXNick wrote:
Not really. Planes yes, but fighters more important.Carking the 6th wrote:
See @pod_than? Naval bombers get the job done!NickXXXNick wrote:
Good stuff already. Planes were decisive.
I’d gold up all your intel and send a completely new fleet made by the power of my wallet at you!NickXXXNick wrote:
Carking got the transports to absorb damage 100% correct. For the Southern fleet 100%. I lost 15 or more land units. No warships were lost by that fleet.Red did not know about northern carrier group. No damage was done to any ship of Northern fleet.
What would u do as red?
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
23 Sept 2023, 21:50
He’s too far away from home. Stand or run.
23 Sept 2023, 21:54
BTW if anyone is impatient and wants the answer now message me. I’ll let a few days go by here before posting publicly here.
I will say the turning point was swift, decisive and was due to a huge mistake by red.
Very similar to the Battle of Midway 1942.
23 Sept 2023, 22:00
They were critical at end to sink ships and helped with planes yes. Red made a mistake.Carking the 6th wrote:
They still helped though? Damn man you didn’t have to do me like that…I’d gold up all your intel and send a completely new fleet made by the power of my wallet at you!NickXXXNick wrote:
Not really. Planes yes, but fighters more important.Carking the 6th wrote:
See @pod_than? Naval bombers get the job done!
23 Sept 2023, 22:22
YayNickXXXNick wrote:
They were critical at end to sink ships and helped with planes yes. Red made a mistake.Carking the 6th wrote:
They still helped though? Damn man you didn’t have to do me like that…I’d gold up all your intel and send a completely new fleet made by the power of my wallet at you!NickXXXNick wrote:
Not really. Planes yes, but fighters more important.Carking the 6th wrote:
See @pod_than? Naval bombers get the job done!
You can always gold your health up as you fight then!NickXXXNick wrote:
He’s too far away from home. Stand or run.
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
23 Sept 2023, 23:45
Yeah. Got me there. I’m not good at gold.
23 Sept 2023, 23:48
but I did message him with his planes’ exact hitpoints after the first dogfight. He did not gold. We agreed not too. I have a ton of gold and boosters too.
23 Sept 2023, 23:48
Lol but being serious I’d probably use my fleet to try to avoid your smaller amount of battleships while grounding and getting your planes away. Shooting and scooting your cruisers until I can grind you down, and using my fighters to keep your planes away if I can’t ground them. I think it wouldn’t be to difficult if I can deal with the planes.
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
24 Sept 2023, 02:53
Let’s look at the map again. This is after multiple bombardments between S India 30 stack fleet and white’s 40 stack in the south. And an attack by Red’s planes against White’s planes. All 3 players are online and doing what they think is best. Then, S India starts bombing island and stops bombing white southern fleet. What Red doesn’t know is the first shot vaporized White’s lvl 2/3 airfield. Very unlucky for white. Australian 17 stack arrives after air factory is toast. But they don’t know that
White does. Because suddenly his planes are relocating and not responding to orders.
White’s 26 stack of planes,losing their home runways is forced to refuel on a different island. And has to refuel for 30 min, much to White’s dismay. You can see them on the ground on the map above.
If you’re White, how are you feeling as you wait for your planes to refuel?
Game over?
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