It’s only one bombardment. Once they return it is over. The fool is not even attacking your ships back!
CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate
You can play as Red, White or both. Pacific Conquest. What do you do. What do you think happened?
Context: (all numbers approximate)
Red: S India is a gold abuser. Larger fleet (~3000) is 14 BS lvl 4, 7 destroyers lvl 5 and the rest carriers. He has 15 lvl 5 fighters and 15 lvl 4 naval bombers patrolling out of sight. He is too far from any airstrip to leave carriers.
Other red fleet is Aus ally. No planes and even mix of BS and Cruisers lvl 2/3 with 5 destroyers lvl 3. Around 1000 hp. He showed up after engagement. (That sucked).
White: playing as Utah: Has been fleeing from S India fleet for 3 days (northern white fleet returning from a full trip around S Australia and North P New Guinea). Fleet is beat up around 12 lvl 4 BS (cruisers killed) but with 3 lvl 3 carriers and 10 lvl 5 naval bombers and 6 lvl 4 fighters in decent shape. The rest of the fleet is lvl 3 transports.
Southern fleet 7 lvl 4 Cruisers and 7 lvl 4 BS, 6 lvl 3 subs 4 lvl 4 carriers and a lvl 3 destroyer. Again, remaining ships lvl 3 transports.
The squadron on Apia is 6 lvl 4 fighters, 15 lvl 5 naval bombers, 3 lvl 3 Tacs and 4 lvl 1 rocket fighters (that made it ashore before big red fleet arrived. 5 more sent off to hide in the Pacific). Air factories on Apia, Suva and Niue.
Each fleet is around 1800 hp.
Air power for S India and Utah hp more or less equal.
Edit Red fleets destroyed air factory on Suva. White planes had to refuel on Apia
That should be enough to have some fun. I’ll check back in a few days to let you know what actually happened. [attach=18757][/attach]
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It’s only one bombardment. Once they return it is over. The fool is not even attacking your ships back!
World at war? huh
Ok. Big hint: what’s the worst thing red could do with his planes in the scenario? Remember his alliance was 15 or so cities away from a victory. The white units on the map are basically 80-90% of my forces. Within 2-3 hours the battle went from a bloody and destructive draw to a decisive victory for white.
The best thing was that S India was a gold abuser and a loud mouth jerk. “He knew things about the game I would never learn” etc. So sweet.
I love those players!NickXXXNick wrote:
Ok. Big hint: what’s the worst thing red could do with his planes in the scenario? Remember his alliance was 15 or so cities away from a victory. The white units on the map are basically 80-90% of my forces. Within 2-3 hours the battle went from a bloody and destructive draw to a decisive victory for white.The best thing was that S India was a gold abuser and a loud mouth jerk. “He knew things about the game I would never learn” etc. So sweet.
Thanks for all the comments. Here's what happened.
If you're red you should at a minimum stand and fight to a bloody draw which would hurt you a lot but wipe white out and then on to victory. Move Aus fleet close, patrol planes over ships and slug it out. Another option would be to just run and get your 15 cities for a win at a later time. Best option, hide your planes on patrol to the East to avoid damage and scoot and shoot (as Carking said) with your superior battleship numbers while heading East toward N America coast. That would force white to chase and defend while losing transports and warships the whole time. That is what I was fearing most.
What red did, though was a huge mistake. He attacked my planes forcing him to land and refuel. I hope everyone knows that refueling planes lose tons of hp and defensive damage inflicted. He attacked the first time our squadrons found each other. I patrolled/defended and was heading to patrol over his refueling planes to do major damage when he turned and shelled Suva vaporizing the air factory there on his first shot. Then, I was like Oh sh*t!!! He's got me. Now I'm forced to land and refuel. The AI chose Apia where I had another air factory. I sweated big time then waiting for his planes but was able to refuel and take off before he knew where I was. When our squadrons met again just West of Apia he attacked again (dummy). And then I had my 15 squadron from the Northern carrier group and my 26 out of Apia just patrol over his stack and refueling planes. Also while refueling my Southern fleet got off a salvo. In a period of 30 min he went from 27 planes to 3 that were badly damaged and useless. He flew off and hid. Then I just patrolled and shelled and eventually Northern fleet arrived to finish both red fleets and all remaining planes ditched in the sea.
Truly a unique and decisive battle for CoW and very similar to the Battle of Midway 1942. In CoW you never have to refuel planes in theory so the realism factor is lacking. But I used that feature to my considerable advantage. In Midway, planes always had to return to carriers for refueling and even changing from torpedo bombers to dive bombers, for example, made planes vulnerable. The battle was won by US forces because they caught the Japanese squadrons on the carrier decks multiple times while never having the Japanese squadrons catch their planes vulnerable. They also had two carrier groups and the Japanese thought there was only one. The Lexington was the Japanese focus while the Hornet and Enterprise were sending sorties but not found until too late. The Battle of Midway was the first naval battle where the opposing commanders never saw the others ships. All combat was carried out by air power. So another wrinkle to the map shown where ship-to-ship combat was in play.
All in all, very cool and we just won the game today. A few days ago we were 150 points away from defeat. for a war game and war history fan like me it was a uniquely special gaming experience.
Thanks again for reading. Here's the starting map again.

Wait so how do we know this? Wasn’t there one battle where the commander got blinded but stayed and commanded anyway or something?NickXXXNick wrote:
The Battle of Midway was the first naval battle where the opposing commanders never saw the others ships.
Lol. But not both commanders… I presume.Carking the 6th wrote:
Wait so how do we know this? Wasn’t there one battle where the commander got blinded but stayed and commanded anyway or something?NickXXXNick wrote:
The Battle of Midway was the first naval battle where the opposing commanders never saw the others ships.
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