I think there is a good way to finally get rid of the Doctrine question.
World War Two had six major titans, each with their own doctrine, style and equipment:
France
Japan
Germany
Britian
America
USSR
I think there should be six doctrines, each representing a titan:
Axis- Germany
Allies- America
Comintern- USSR
Pan-Asian- Japan
These doctrines already represent four titans, but the problem can be seen in the Allied doctrine. It is simply too large.
Therefore we can split the Allies doctrine to represent France and Britain:
Commonwealth- Britain
Pan-French- France
This would make Allies less and evenise the field, make the game more historic and fun
In HWW Commonwealth could be extended to:
Egypt
Canada
Australia
New Zea Land
India
South Africa
Maybe even Greece
Etc
Pan-French could extend to:
Canada (It can be either Commonwealth or Pan-French)
Belgium
Poland
Netherlands
Portugal
Denmark
Etc
Doing this would solve the following issues:
The Huge number of Allies in any map, specially 100 p
Historical issues
The fewness of Pan-Asian and to a lesser extent Axis since now Allies is split up and fewer
Funner
Etc
I know this is unlikely but please consider
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Hello definitly support this.
But i think french doctrine should get a diferent name, More general like resistance or something like that.
Anyway ive Been here since beggining AND by that Time french, british AND even italian was suggested, hopefully if More Ppl support this could become a reality.
I was thinking of different name, but Pan French is best so far... any ideas guys?
Free Forces or Resitance wont work cuz this is 1939 NOT 1940
Pan France ability: Defense
Positives:
Defense damage +20%
Fortifications bonus +10%
Negatives:
Offensive damage- 15%
Commonwealth ability: Balance
Positives: None
Defensive: None
UHHH no commonwealth needs ability. Also i like how Pan French (NOT FRANCE) is defence
good idea but giving France its own doctrine is really not accurate France was knocked out in the beginning of the war so I would suggest to make the British and French same doctrine called anglo French or something and the other allied doctrine would be the Americans
No. The fact they died quick doesnt mean they didnt have seperate equipment, strat. Also this is 1939.Maximilian Mofo wrote:
good idea but giving France its own doctrine is really not accurate France was knocked out in the beginning of the war so I would suggest to make the British and French same doctrine called anglo French or something and the other allied doctrine would be the Americans
Plus the aim is to represent the six major powers.
Then its unlikely to happen having the major 6 power with separate doctrine would make it confusing especially to new players
Veterans say the dame thing about the introducción of doctrines.Maximilian Mofo wrote:
Then its unlikely to happen having the major 6 power with separate doctrine would make it confusing especially to new players
commonwealth bonuses maybe should be something related with spionage, the penalty maybe the upkeep of troops increased since they never field a big army, they relay More on sabotage and attacking strategic Objectives.vietcong2005 wrote:
Pan France ability: DefensePositives:
Defense damage +20%
Fortifications bonus +10%
Negatives:
Offensive damage- 15%
Commonwealth ability: Balance
Positives: None
Defensive: None
France penalty i imagine lack of líne of sight un order yo represent the lack of radio comunications.
The advantages of France maybe instead of defensive damage increased, cheapest building and faster to build. With this you can easily build big fortifications.
I am not talking about veterans veterans will just adapt and continue the game I am talking about new players new player that like the game will be turned off by the game because it will be too complicated
Tbh that sounds like people who aren't gonna be committed to the gameMaximilian Mofo wrote:
I am not talking about veterans veterans will just adapt and continue the game I am talking about new players new player that like the game will be turned off by the game because it will be too complicated
Hoi4 is much more complex yet much more people play it.
we already have 4 doctrines how is adding too complicated?
I agree complexity is what makes game more fun. Plus adding two more wouldn't make it horribly complex.
They still had a doctrine.Maximilian Mofo wrote:
good idea but giving France its own doctrine is really not accurate France was knocked out in the beginning of the war so I would suggest to make the British and French same doctrine called anglo French or something and the other allied doctrine would be the Americans
C'mon, giving them their own doctrine will be way better for HWW!vietcong2005 wrote:
They still had a doctrine.Maximilian Mofo wrote:
good idea but giving France its own doctrine is really not accurate France was knocked out in the beginning of the war so I would suggest to make the British and French same doctrine called anglo French or something and the other allied doctrine would be the Americans
Tbh it sounds way more cool now than expected at first I thought it might be complicated but now It sounds cool also commonwealth have to get a boost to naval forces maybe 10 percent less cost to navy??
Ummmm... Units move at 200% speed if going away from enemy. Also when the war ends your troops automatically brag about how "much" they did.GrandEmpire wrote:
Pan-French- France
Commonwealth. Definitely.GrandEmpire wrote:
Canada (It can be either Commonwealth or Pan-French)
Lol.vietcong2005 wrote:
Commonwealth ability: BalancePositives: None
Defensive: None
Actually. that's quite a good suggestion for what it could be.vietcong2005 wrote:
Pan France ability: DefensePositives:
Defense damage +20%
Fortifications bonus +10%
Negatives:
Offensive damage- 15%
Also, found this post from @Chimere and (like everything Chimere does) it is pretty comprehensive and useful.
so devs when r u going to implement this
sadly not anytime soon if they were gonna do this idea they probably would have done in the beginning of doctrines they most likely thought of this and did not do it for a reason but hey if this thread get enough popularity they could see it and implement it you never know
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