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Food Issues on the 100 player map

I have now conquered the majority of north america. I am sitting at around 600 VPs. I am building only infastructure and industrial complexes on food tiles, and have been for a week. But my net food production is.... well below zero.

My army constitutes less than 25% of my food consumption.

My question is this: How is it possible to capture 3300 VPs to win this world map without being -3000 food / hour? It seems to me like the population's food consumption ratios need to be adjusted on this map. I know I am not the only one experiencing this.

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I wish there were civilian casualties. I would kill off a ton of non core civilians to reduce food consumption.

I do see the point in the ridiculous consumption by civilians, but, heck, it would be bloody easy without it.

ShadowHawk5 wrote:

I wish there were civilian casualties. I would kill off a ton of non core civilians to reduce food consumption.
I requested this earlier in September... it had to do with my question about nukes and civilian casualties.

"Are you North India?"

No in this game Im Germany

Joneleth wrote:

"Are you North India?"

No in this game Im Germany

Awesome!

100 player map - Indochina - day 32 - rank 2 - 412 provinces => -1/hr food deficit ....

there is no food issue, that is, if and when ...

...you spend some thought and time and resources on developing your food provinces.

It bad and this map need to be adjust I dont have the army to keep order in all my conquered territory. I have like 30k manpower but cant build anything because im short in oil and grain, so I build milicia and send them as canon fodder and hopping that they get kill fast will keeping my precious few tank beyond the line.

I hope they made I better map with real country border too, and where we can field large army and fleet without to have to make gore border.

100 people world map not a so bad idea but not really realistic. In the WW2 it had like only a dozen of country with a sizeable army , and country like spain or Brasil.

Learn the game ffs...

There is NO food issue. There is only such a thing as bad planning, resulting in bad development

you probably have a ton of barracks and not a single factory or road on grain provinces.

most likely you are unaware of the facts that:

- your barracks consume grain

- your troops consume grain (different for every unit)

- your population consumes grain

and that:

- you can turn off your barracks to reduce grain consumption

- you should build factories and infrastructure to increase production

and if you need so many troops for keeping provinces from rebelling, you should work on the moral of your provinces by:

- having enough food

- shortening travel time to capital

etc etc etc.

As said: Learn the game and than, if you still have an issue, ask in the forum.

Quote of the alternative manual by Czar Hellios (to be found in the thread where it is on the forum...go look for it):

"I have observed that up to this date, the majority of players mismanage said resources, and complain on the forum of β€œGrain/Manpower is an issue. To high or too low. Worst of all of these, they mismanage time. "

*sorry for my english I got misunderstood again not my 1st language

Im no noob I played supremacy 1914 before this game and I playing this one since the french server are up.

Well was not a problem for me until I played on this map. I got 155 provinces now and I have only 165 units. Never in my other games I had to turn off all my barrack like this, at least I was able to keep one or 2 running for building mech-inf. On this one I didnt even bother to research mot-inf and mech-inf.

Keeping provinces from rebelling not big problem, when you capture capital all your moral go up, but by keeping order I mean to have troop ready on strategic point, Almost all my province are without troop, Im keeping my front troop and some garnison in my 5 starting city.

It a great map but It feel empty, conquest are real easy because of lack of troops and on 2nd month it just left like a dozen country's . It supposse to going slower, tech-tree and all, but I never played a game who going so fast except for the meditarenean map.

It my opinion and I like to field large army it more realistic when you know a division have man power of 1500. So 100 units are just 150k. WW2 army fielded millions of ground troop and thousand of planes and boat. The strategy with less units are more linear.

I didnt liked few month ago when they almost doubled the upkeep for all troop and on this map now we feel it even more. Managing grain and oil hurt the fun, why I have no problem with Goods, Iron and ManPower? I think units should consume Goods as upkeep, not grain. Less upkeep in Manpower too, like for attriation and turnover but consume some for regain moral.

It my opinion but I played years of Heart of Iron except of the similarity in lot of thing I have to say to myself it not the same game.

p.s. And you forget about shipyard increase production too ;-)

So now Im currently at 800 provinces spanning just over half the world without building any IC on any food provinces except my core, and im still up plus 400 food a hour. Either people completly neglect to maintain their morale or improve their food provinces but I think i can pretty solidly confirm there is no food problem.

1202 VP as Romania from central europe to japan. 75% moraal average (100% core and close too 100% in the nearby provinces).

maxed out on food production with infrastructure, industrial and harbour in my core. Some infrastructure and industirals in devellopment in provinces nearby (not further than Persia).

Production is 74k/day.

Civilian consumption 63k/day

Military 11k/day (its big)

-25food/hour.

188k food in reserve.

What are your food stats and moraal Jonathan? I'm especially curious about consumption and production, since you seem to produce like 10k food extra daily.

Azkazan wrote:

1202 VP as Romania from central europe to japan. 75% moraal average (100% core and close too 100% in the nearby provinces).

maxed out on food production with infrastructure, industrial and harbour in my core. Some infrastructure and industirals in devellopment in provinces nearby (not further than Persia).

Production is 74k/day.

Civilian consumption 63k/day

Military 11k/day (its big)

-25food/hour.

188k food in reserve.

What are your food stats and moraal Jonathan? I'm especially curious about consumption and production, since you seem to produce like 10k food extra daily.

Production 85891

Military Consumption 10100

Population 68669

+297 per hour

Was more yesterday but I just captured alot of extra provinces which is dragging it down a bit while I build them up.

Ok, I'm curious what mine will be in 3-4 days after I have finished a lot mroe infrastructure in non-core provinces. And I'm on my way to The southern part of Afrika, so I also don't expect moraal to change a lot into the positive. What's you average moraal? I conquered 125 VP in the last 24h from someone who turned inactive, so that is my excuse for the 75% average, it was a little above 80% before day change :P .

In my other game im "only" at 360 provinces, and I have very little invested in Food provinces beyond some infastructure there my stats is

Production 38619

MIlitary consumption 3300

Civilian consumtpion 30257

+211 per hour.

Azkazan wrote:

Ok, I'm curious what mine will be in 3-4 days after I have finished a lot mroe infrastructure in non-core provinces. And I'm on my way to The southern part of Afrika, so I also don't expect moraal to change a lot into the positive. What's you average moraal? I conquered 125 provinces last 24h from someone who turned inactive, so that is my excuse for the 75% average, it was a little above 80% before day change :P .
I have no idea how to see morale average

But it will probably not be very high since alot of my provinces are 2-3 days away from my capital

you can see average moraal if you go to diplomacy and klik on the "i" behind your countries name.

Thanks Joneleth for supporting the "THERE S NO FOOD PROBLEM" point of view with your facts :)

_Pontus_ wrote:

Thanks Jonathan for supporting the "THERE S NO FOOD PROBLEM" point of view with your facts :)
Why is people calling me Jonathan?

My average morale in my 800 province game is 80,7%

Joneleth wrote:

_Pontus_ wrote:

Thanks Jonathan for supporting the "THERE S NO FOOD PROBLEM" point of view with your facts :)
Why is people calling me Jonathan?

My average morale in my 800 province game is 80,7%

First off, I dunno, Jonathan. :D

Second off, in my best matches, my average morale and food production is:

As Nigeria: Morale is 96.47% and food production is +173/hour

As New Zealand: Morale is 100.00% and food production is +133/hour

In my Nigerian match, I have 62 units. In my New Zealand match, I have 137 units. Just goes to show that with good management comes a good empire.

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