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6thDragon wrote:

I honestly have no idea what "genzing" is. Am I missing anything?

6thDragon wrote:

I honestly have no idea what "genzing" is. Am I missing anything?

Somehow, I appreciate that. This was the place where we learned the game, where we all had those discussions about SP vs. non-SP, endless hospital suggestions, and the "right" way to build up industry. Sometimes, there wouldn't be posts for days, and that was fine. There was nothing to discuss.

New influx brings back life to the place. It is not upon us to judge that we don't like content; it is upon us to recognize that a place that was on the edge of dying, has ridiculous amounts of posts now. I dare you to find any old-style forum place as lively as this one.

These youngsters have taken the place. Some are really interested in the game, and some are just trolls posting nothing but "hi" and variations of that. Yet they're unlike us... they're roleplaying (as opposed to figuring out the most efficient way to kill enemies). They can't invest huge amounts of time like we do; they have schools and social stuff to do that we don't have to bother about. They're handicapped to play the "efficient" game... still they love it.

This post falling flat on the face now... there's not really a "message" that I have. Just goes to show that there's not just one way to enjoy the game... and when you're a noob that gets eaten by the first predator (like us) who meets you, doesn't mean you're really a noob. When you love the game, it may feel good to be eaten. When you win every single map you join except when there's coiners or a hostile coalition who knows what they're doing, the victory doesn't have much value anymore. When you're the noob that finally manages to achieve something, it does. It is all about perspectives.

In my opinion, I won't turn my back on somebody because they have a low rank. But, it tends to be a ballpark measure for competency and involvement, so I do think about it and it does play a role in forming my opinion of someone, however this is quite small.

Don't you think that when someone gets to be a, say, "major" (dunno if that rank actually exists))) you have already formed your opinion about them, simply because it means you have read a lot of their posts already?

K.Rokossovski wrote:

Don't you think that when someone gets to be a, say, "major" (dunno if that rank actually exists))) you have already formed your opinion about them, simply because it means you have read a lot of their posts already?

Talvisota wrote:

K.Rokossovski wrote:

Don't you think that when someone gets to be a, say, "major" (dunno if that rank actually exists))) you have already formed your opinion about them, simply because it means you have read a lot of their posts already?

Put it this way, the higher a rank, the more posts you have made, which gives me a better idea of who you are, your sense of humour, interests, favourite units, etc, just because it's a bigger pool. So there's a correlation between higher ranks and me becoming friendly with someone.

The problem with Claudio here is that in saying that rank doesn’t matter, and then going ahead and saying that Genzing is pure evil, he makes n act of hypocrisy. So what if people are spam liking each other and raising their ranks? It’s up to you to NOT care so that their ego boost or whatever you are worried about doesn’t take place. At the end of the day, you made it a big deal. I guarantee that the majority of people could care less about rank or Genzing, and would rather let the nuts who do it have their thing, while getting back to the point of these forums- talking about the game. K.Rokossovski’s assessment is true in that regard. People have came and the place has changed… and there is nothing you can do about that. Rather than wasting time yelling about things that annoy you, it’s better to get back to the point of these forums - discussing the game and having a community around it. There will be these trolls who spam or whatever, but they come and go just like any other time. Claudio is not doing any good, and rather making things (which really weren’t that bad in the first place) worse by commencing in these useless arguments that once again, will change absolutely nothing.

Claudio NVKP wrote:

Lady Aragosta wrote:

@Amotah

Can you please shut this guy up? Which asserting one's opinion is fine the degree to which he's doing it, and his lack of tolerance for alternate opinions, is entering the realms of the Deeply Annoying, and he's not listening to me.

I'm doing my job as a fpd police officer, you're the only one in the way, you must stop.

6thDragon wrote:

I honestly have no idea what "genzing" is. Am I missing anything?

Carking the 6th wrote:

The problem with Claudio here is that in saying that rank doesn’t matter, and then going ahead and saying that Genzing is pure evil, he makes n act of hypocrisy. So what if people are spam liking each other and raising their ranks? It’s up to you to NOT care so that their ego boost or whatever you are worried about doesn’t take place. At the end of the day, you made it a big deal. I guarantee that the majority of people could care less about rank or Genzing, and would rather let the nuts who do it have their thing, while getting back to the point of these forums- talking about the game. K.Rokossovski’s assessment is true in that regard. People have came and the place has changed… and there is nothing you can do about that. Rather than wasting time yelling about things that annoy you, it’s better to get back to the point of these forums - discussing the game and having a community around it. There will be these trolls who spam or whatever, but they come and go just like any other time. Claudio is not doing any good, and rather making things (which really weren’t that bad in the first place) worse by commencing in these useless arguments that once again, will change absolutely nothing.

I suspect Rokossovski is in the anti-Genzing camp (although I don't really have anything but gut feeling backing this up, so it's very possible I'm entirely wrong) but his take on it - the forums and their culture change with the users - is a lot healthier than Claudio's.

Even if people disapprove of some aspects of the new forum culture, doesn't mean you get to spoil it for everyone else. If it's not spoiling things for you personally, just move on. (Unless it's causing problems for the forum as a whole, and the point of this poll was to determine whether this is actually happening or if that's just the perception of the anti-Genzing squad. It's possible this is a real problem, in which case I will try to change my behaviour, but I highly doubt it is and until that is conclusively proven I see no point in backing down.)

Talvisota wrote:

In my opinion, I won't turn my back on somebody because they have a low rank. But, it tends to be a ballpark measure for competency and involvement, so I do think about it and it does play a role in forming my opinion of someone, however this is quite small.

Recruit - Corporal: Newbies, unknown quantities, who I generally don't judge at all simply because they haven't been here long enough, or contributed enough, to make a fair assessment of them.

Corporal - the various types of Sergeant: People who by now ought to have some idea of the forum culture and the way we do things here, so if they do something stupid they have less excuse. Assessment of them still ought to be by the content they post, not the fact that they have this rank.

Anything above one of the Sergeant ranks: makes no difference whatsoever, particularly now that Genzing is a thing, but it honestly didn't even before that.

Lady Aragosta wrote:

I suspect Rokossovski is in the anti-Genzing camp (although I don't really have anything but gut feeling backing this up, so it's very possible I'm entirely wrong) but his take on it - the forums and their culture change with the users - is a lot healthier than Claudio's.

K.Rokossovski wrote:

Lady Aragosta wrote:

I suspect Rokossovski is in the anti-Genzing camp (although I don't really have anything but gut feeling backing this up, so it's very possible I'm entirely wrong) but his take on it - the forums and their culture change with the users - is a lot healthier than Claudio's.

In the narrow definition of genzing (artificially boosting ranks through liking), I'm neither for or against, since I don't care about ranks, and thus don't care about manipulating them either. In the wider defintion of it (making bollocks posts not to create culture but to improve rank), yes I am against it because I read most posts on the forum and it challenges my bollocks resistancy threshold.

Stop genzing!

Mate, you've made your point. At this point you're not actually adding anything to this discussion.

why can't i reply to your wall?

Wow, people take other people’s likes seriously. I had no idea. I never really paid attention to what others like or cared enough to consider their motivation for doing so. If anything I probably don’t like others’ posts often enough. For that I certainly apologize. If anything all this genzing discussion as made me realize I should do that more.

6thDragon wrote:

Wow, people take other people’s likes seriously. I had no idea. I never really paid attention to what others like or cared enough to consider their motivation for doing so. If anything I probably don’t like others’ posts often enough. For that I certainly apologize. If anything all this genzing discussion as made me realize I should do that more.

Claudio NVKP wrote:

Stop genzing!

Talvisota wrote:

6thDragon wrote:

Wow, people take other people’s likes seriously. I had no idea. I never really paid attention to what others like or cared enough to consider their motivation for doing so. If anything I probably don’t like others’ posts often enough. For that I certainly apologize. If anything all this genzing discussion as made me realize I should do that more.

Honestly, likes are more valuable when they aren't given out like sweets. It means more when I get a like from Freezy or Rokossovski for instance, because those are people who don't like many posts. It's a good indicator of how much you're actually bringing to the forums imo.

Carking the 6th wrote:

Would you look at that… the person who is spamming and not adding anything to the discussion… is you.

saw that the first time.

Claudio NVKP wrote:

why can't i reply to your wall?

Hey guys, lets just chill this down. If someone wants to be genzed and someone wants to genze him, then genzing in that case only should be allowed.

Joe Bartolozzi wrote:

Hey guys, lets just chill this down. If someone wants to be genzed and someone wants to genze him, then genzing in that case only should be allowed.

Well, my boss said yes, so it's closed.