HWW Revamp

Revamp of HWW

I was looking at Historic, and I think there should be another refix. Many things are not right, and I think there is potential for expansion. I will go on nation by nation.

United Kingdom-

1. Newfoundland (St. John) to become occupied province

2. New Urban(s)= Glasgow

3. Navy Research to be slightly reduced (The British navy was large but not that modern. I don’t understand why British battleships in the game are more researched than German battleships, for god’s sake the Bismarck sunk Britian’s most famous ship with a single shell. So I think either britian’s research should be reduced or Other nation’s increased)

France-

  • Name Change- France –> French Third Republic
  • Removal of starting Tank Destroyer (The French im pretty sure didn’t have any significant number of TDs in service in 1939. In fact im pretty sure TDs were invented/mass produced in 1940)
Italy-

  • Name Change- Italy-> Kingdom of Italy or Italian Empire
  • Removal of Tank Destroyer
  • Enlargening of Naval Forces. The Italian Navy was quite large, but outdated. So research could be reduced and numbers increased. Specially low level subs
  • New Urban(s)- Palermo. Italy has no core cities below Naples, and this is annoying as well as untrue. Palermo was a proper city, and it would be nice to have it in Historic.
German Empire-

  • Removal of rocket AND its research. Germany had NO rockets in 1939, and had barely researched them. It is not historically accurate for it to start with one AND with research.
  • Adding 1 more paratrooper AND its research. Germans pretty much invented paratrooping, so I think they deserve to have it researched. Also Paratroopers were used in invasion of Poland so I think another paratrooper would be accurate.
  • Increasing research on Navy. I don’t understand why Japan and UK, even France and Italy I think, have equal or superior naval research to Germany. The German Navy was by far the most modern navy. It was small, but it could easily destroy the French and Italian navies combined. So I think its research should be increased dramatically.
  • A few more light tanks.
  • New Urban(s)- Dresden
Poland-

  • Removal of tank destroyers, replaced by, light tanks, maybe? each.

Sweden-

  • Doctrine change- Allies-> Axis, in 1939 Sweden supplied Germany with iron ore in return for military equipment, money etc, therefore Sweden should be Axis
Soviet Union-

  • New Urban(s)- Smolensk and Chita, Smolensk was practically one of Russia's most major cities, maybe third most major after Leningrad and Moscow
  • Line of weak fortification along Euro Border. The Stalin Line was still up in 1939, NOT fully dismantled
  • More infantry
  • Azerbaijan, Georgia and Armenia, all Persia in HWW for some reason, to become Soviet cores since all three were Soviet Socialist Republics.
  • Removal of Paratrooper unit at beginning

USA-

. Removal of Paratrooper starting unit

. Honolulu to have a naval base, you know Pearl Harbour EXISTED right?

Persia-

  • New Urban- Mashhad.
  • 1 more infantry unit and 1 AC
Japan-

  • Name change- Japan -> Empire of Japan or Japanese Empire
  • Slightly more industrialised.
  • Removal of research for rockets. I... just dont know what to say... do you really think Japan was even THINKING of rockets in 1939???????
  • Larger navy. LARGER NAVY Japanese Imperial Navy was BEEG, like BEEG
  • More planes, i.e. Naval Bombers and fighters
  • More infantry forces.
  • NO research done on Light Tanks
  • In ownerships of Manchuria. OK I know I have to argue my case. The thing is, I don’t get it. IN HWW Phillipines is American territory, even though it was only technically under military protection. The Japanese had a MUCH, MUCH firmer grip on Manchuria than the Americans did on the Phillipines, so there are two options, either Japan gets Manchuria or America loses Phillipines. To give Manchuria would remove a playable nation, but it could be replaced by Finland or something.
  • Slightly larger chunk of China, i mean like 5 rurals
  • New Urban, Yokohama, it was a major city

Australia-

  • Australia’s territory in New guniea to become occupied, I don’t get why its core.
  • Tasmania to become core.
  • New Urbans- Adelaide and Darwin
If there be anything more do let me know.

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

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Not necessarily just look at the Littorio Class. They modernized most battleships, like the Gulio Caesar. Practically none of them never even got sunk through direct engagements. Most of it happened because of air attacks.

Where BEF?

No, I disagree about Sweden. Sweden was a neutral nation during the war, sort of like Portugal and Switzerland. If anything, they were allies, since they never used military force but were used by the allies sort of like how Germans used Switzerland as a "neutral" territory.

-Aritemis
The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee.

No Sweden was more of a player. At the beginning they supported Nazi Germany more. However, it was only in 1943, when the allies started to win, Sweden began to become more favorable to the allies. They allowed jewish people to immigrate to Sweden. At the end of the war they were basically an allied invasions. There were actually plans for a invasion of German occupied Denmark and Sweden was part of it.

whowh wrote:

bigboss_ironfist wrote:

Specialist & Engineers from Sweden would often develop and assist German military.
Ok....and?

On this level understanding, that is all that should need to be known. For all the rest there is plenty of relevant books to access on Amazon or Google.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnNvsm8Bzk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Qy62Mp4wk

wait so what am i wrong about????

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

You’re back.

WHOS GONNA CARRY THE BOATS?
WHOS GONNA CARRY THE LOGS?
THEY DON'T KNOW YOU SON!
- David Goggins

yup

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

didn't this person get hit with the b hammer?

-Aritemis
The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee.

Germany planned to invade Sweden multiple times, it's just pure luck the germans were too busy to actually get rolling.

-Aritemis
The only time France wants us to go to war is when the German Army is sitting in Paris sipping coffee.

Guys this map is 1939 NOT 1940 or 1941 and in 1939 SWEDEN WAS AXIS

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

Edited it again. @freezy come on at least consider??

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

Mods PLEASE consider this

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

GrandEmpire wrote:

Mods PLEASE consider this
I dont know what to consider...

You mean devs?

Фарис Синановић, Суна

GrandEmpire wrote:

Guys this map is 1939 NOT 1940 or 1941 and in 1939 SWEDEN WAS AXIS
Sweeden was never "AXIS". Sweeden was neutralan country, they were tradeing with axis just to keep their neutrality.
Фарис Синановић, Суна

I KNOW. But ingame it needs to get axis doctrine

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

Devs please consider

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

GrandEmpire wrote:

Revamp of HWW

I was looking at Historic, and I think there should be another refix. Many things are not right, and I think there is potential for expansion. I will go on nation by nation.

United Kingdom-

1. Newfoundland (St. John) to become occupied province

2. New Urban(s)= Glasgow

3. Navy Research to be slightly reduced (The British navy was large but not that modern. I don’t understand why British battleships in the game are more researched than German battleships, for god’s sake the Bismarck sunk Britian’s most famous ship with a single shell. So I think either britian’s research should be reduced or Other nation’s increased)

France-

  • Name Change- France –> French Third Republic
  • Removal of starting Tank Destroyer (The French im pretty sure didn’t have any significant number of TDs in service in 1939. In fact im pretty sure TDs were invented/mass produced in 1940)
Italy-

  • Name Change- Italy-> Kingdom of Italy or Italian Empire
  • Removal of Tank Destroyer
  • Enlargening of Naval Forces. The Italian Navy was quite large, but outdated. So research could be reduced and numbers increased. Specially low level subs
  • New Urban(s)- Palermo. Italy has no core cities below Naples, and this is annoying as well as untrue. Palermo was a proper city, and it would be nice to have it in Historic.
German Empire-

  • Removal of rocket AND its research. Germany had NO rockets in 1939, and had barely researched them. It is not historically accurate for it to start with one AND with research.
  • Adding 1 more paratrooper AND its research. Germans pretty much invented paratrooping, so I think they deserve to have it researched. Also Paratroopers were used in invasion of Poland so I think another paratrooper would be accurate.
  • Increasing research on Navy. I don’t understand why Japan and UK, even France and Italy I think, have equal or superior naval research to Germany. The German Navy was by far the most modern navy. It was small, but it could easily destroy the French and Italian navies combined. So I think its research should be increased dramatically.
  • A few more light tanks.
  • New Urban(s)- Dresden
Poland-

  • Removal of tank destroyers, replaced by, light tanks, maybe? each.

Sweden-

  • Doctrine change- Allies-> Axis, in 1939 Sweden supplied Germany with iron ore in return for military equipment, money etc, therefore Sweden should be Axis
Soviet Union-

  • New Urban(s)- Smolensk and Chita, Smolensk was practically one of Russia's most major cities, maybe third most major after Leningrad and Moscow
  • Line of weak fortification along Euro Border. The Stalin Line was still up in 1939, NOT fully dismantled
  • More infantry
  • Azerbaijan, Georgia and Armenia, all Persia in HWW for some reason, to become Soviet cores since all three were Soviet Socialist Republics.
  • Removal of Paratrooper unit at beginning

USA-

. Removal of Paratrooper starting unit

. Honolulu to have a naval base, you know Pearl Harbour EXISTED right?

Persia-

  • New Urban- Mashhad.
  • 1 more infantry unit and 1 AC
Japan-

  • Name change- Japan -> Empire of Japan or Japanese Empire
  • Slightly more industrialised.
  • Removal of research for rockets. I... just dont know what to say... do you really think Japan was even THINKING of rockets in 1939???????
  • Larger navy. LARGER NAVY Japanese Imperial Navy was BEEG, like BEEG
  • More planes, i.e. Naval Bombers and fighters
  • More infantry forces.
  • NO research done on Light Tanks
  • In ownerships of Manchuria. OK I know I have to argue my case. The thing is, I don’t get it. IN HWW Phillipines is American territory, even though it was only technically under military protection. The Japanese had a MUCH, MUCH firmer grip on Manchuria than the Americans did on the Phillipines, so there are two options, either Japan gets Manchuria or America loses Phillipines. To give Manchuria would remove a playable nation, but it could be replaced by Finland or something.
  • Slightly larger chunk of China, i mean like 5 rurals
  • New Urban, Yokohama, it was a major city

Australia-

  • Australia’s territory in New guniea to become occupied, I don’t get why its core.
  • Tasmania to become core.
  • New Urbans- Adelaide and Darwin
If there be anything more do let me know.
Germany and UK’s Nays are fine, There is a reason why operation sea lion was impossible, because the UK’s navy is much much better then Germanys at the time, if operation sea lion was a thing then it probably would’ve been worse then there invasion of russia. Even the leader of Germany, the same person who thought invading the Soviet Union was a great idea while fighting a two front war with USA entering knew that German Navy doesnt have a chance against UK’s, and the naming germany “the third reich” points that Nazi’s to much and Japan’s navy is fine if Japans navy shall get a boost, in my opinion America’s should, and Canada should have more city’s and have a lot more starting troops, at one point, canada alone had about 750,000 troops in WW2

vietcong2005 wrote:

There should be more tanks for the Soviet Union. Much more. Soviets had at least 11k tanks at the beginning of operation barberossa. While, Germans only had around 3k tanks. Meanwhile, the Italian navy wasn't outdated it was in fact advanced and modern. It was only bad because the lack of sufficient oil and resources. I agree that Japan needs a larger navy and more planes. It needs more medium levels naval bombers and level 2 or 3 carriers.
The invasion of russia happened in 1941 - 1942 but the game starts in 1939 but ok

Bruh. It’s me godofthegame germany

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