Medium Tanks are Good, actually

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Thing is the specialized damage, which leads to weakness in other categories can never really be made up for. When I meet stacks with large amounts of Tank destroyers I just find them so easy to destroy by air or land, even more so than MT’s. Maybe I’ve never met a person who uses them right, but I’ve never had an issue with TD’s before.

You gotta understand this; tanks can never be used on their own. You'll always be pairing it up with other units: TDs with Inf/Militia or MTs with Mot Inf or SPAA. You'd never use just MTs, since there is an easy counter. Likewise, TDs are never used on their own. In that sense, TDs are better than MTs, because they have a specialized role in the stack: Kill armour. MTs also have this role in a stack, but are less useful since they excel at killing L. armour whilst being mediocre at killing H. armour.

Yes, I mentioned stacks USING them, and I’ve spoken about mixes many times. I was describing my experience here of how a fight usually ends with TD’s vs MT’s. The heavy armor damage is good, but their weakness against unarmored gets in the way. MT’s don’t have any drawbacks in the damage category, they hurt everything at least a bit. TD’s are basically useless unless the enemy uses a lot of heavy armored units, which while it does mean that a MT using army would lose to a TD using army, a MT using army can defeat many other types, while a force not using very much armor would render the TD pointless.

1. Scout (ACs or motorized infantry)

2. Protect the artillery (meat shield troops: infantry/militia, AT/TD, AA, AC)

3. Capture land quickly (AC, mot inf or LT)

Look, I'm not saying MTs are bad. They have their uses. Your strategy will work, and is recommended if you're not very active, but overall, my strategy is way more efficient and reduces wasted resources. Your strategy is easier to do, but my strategy will pay off in the end with less wasted resources.

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Well, if we're using tanks to kill ground units, MTs are a more well-rounded unit. But here's the thing: That's what artillery/planes are for. You should always aim to minimise the melee combat you get yourself into, since it just wastes resources. The ground units should be there to do one or a mixture of three things:1. Scout (ACs or motorized infantry)

2. Protect the artillery (meat shield troops: infantry/militia, AT/TD, AA, AC)

3. Capture land quickly (AC, mot inf or LT)

Look, I'm not saying MTs are bad. They have their uses. Your strategy will work, and is recommended if you're not very active, but overall, my strategy is way more efficient and reduces wasted resources. Your strategy is easier to do, but my strategy will pay off in the end with less wasted resources.

It’s a bit different when I have time and I make use of artillery and planes way more often than land, but I always simply preferred MT’s over other armored units. Unless it’s Pan-Asian.

Fair analysis. Unit choice should depend on play style. You're both explaining how different units fit your play styles. You're both right.

Another use for MT (outside of regular wars) is to counter heavy users off light armor. Especially when it's Pan Asian light armor. Especially if you're Comintern in Asia, facing one of the Pan Asian countries to your East. In those situations, the MT may be the only unit with the speed and the fighting stats to save you from being eaten alive.

In essence, we shall both agree to disagree. Very nice discussion tho

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

In essence, we shall both agree to disagree. Very nice discussion tho

Carking the 6th wrote:

It’s like a legendary battle where both warriors decide to call it a draw over ruined fields… I should ask ChatGPT to write a poem…

ChatGPT

In a world of chaos, where ruins lay,

Two warriors stood, in the twilight's gray.

Battered and scarred, they faced each other,

Their swords gleaming, brother against brother.

Upon a field once lush, now torn and tattered,

Their footsteps echoed, battle cries scattered.

Their eyes met, fierce determination shown,

For honor and glory, they fought alone.

With each clash of steel, sparks filled the air,

Their swords danced, a deadly affair.

One with the wind, the other like a rock,

Strength and agility, a powerful shock.

The sun wept, casting its fading light,

As they weaved a tapestry of valor and might.

Their movements spoke of skill and might,

An exquisite display, an awe-inspiring sight.

Neither would yield, both fiercely fought,

Neither would falter, though weariness sought.

Their hearts blazed with an unyielding fire,

The echo of their battle reaching higher.

But as shadows lengthened, they paused, they sighed,

In the stillness, a pact was silently implied.

Their wounds and fatigue, too heavy a load,

An agreement emerged, a draw bestowed.

With a nod and a smile, they sheathed their blades,

Their battle halted, their souls not swayed.

For the battlefield lay in ruin and despair,

Yet they found solace, a shared honor to bear.

Two incredible warriors, fierce and bold,

Their stories woven, a legend untold.

Side by side, they left the field behind,

With newfound respect, their spirits entwined.

Though neither emerged with a victory claim,

Their valor and strength will forever remain.

For in a world consumed by strife and gore,

They chose unity, an uncommon lore.

So let their tale be sung, their names held high,

In the annals of warriors who dared defy.

For on that ruined field, a draw was agreed,

And two incredible warriors found unity.

Ok good to know that ai does this can it do more

AMG Morgan wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

It’s like a legendary battle where both warriors decide to call it a draw over ruined fields… I should ask ChatGPT to write a poem…

ChatGPT

In a world of chaos, where ruins lay,

Two warriors stood, in the twilight's gray.

Battered and scarred, they faced each other,

Their swords gleaming, brother against brother.

Upon a field once lush, now torn and tattered,

Their footsteps echoed, battle cries scattered.

Their eyes met, fierce determination shown,

For honor and glory, they fought alone.

With each clash of steel, sparks filled the air,

Their swords danced, a deadly affair.

One with the wind, the other like a rock,

Strength and agility, a powerful shock.

The sun wept, casting its fading light,

As they weaved a tapestry of valor and might.

Their movements spoke of skill and might,

An exquisite display, an awe-inspiring sight.

Neither would yield, both fiercely fought,

Neither would falter, though weariness sought.

Their hearts blazed with an unyielding fire,

The echo of their battle reaching higher.

But as shadows lengthened, they paused, they sighed,

In the stillness, a pact was silently implied.

Their wounds and fatigue, too heavy a load,

An agreement emerged, a draw bestowed.

With a nod and a smile, they sheathed their blades,

Their battle halted, their souls not swayed.

For the battlefield lay in ruin and despair,

Yet they found solace, a shared honor to bear.

Two incredible warriors, fierce and bold,

Their stories woven, a legend untold.

Side by side, they left the field behind,

With newfound respect, their spirits entwined.

Though neither emerged with a victory claim,

Their valor and strength will forever remain.

For in a world consumed by strife and gore,

They chose unity, an uncommon lore.

So let their tale be sung, their names held high,

In the annals of warriors who dared defy.

For on that ruined field, a draw was agreed,

And two incredible warriors found unity.

I wonder

Imperialist San arta wrote:

Ok good to know that ai does this can it do more

i know

AMG Morgan wrote:

Imperialist San arta wrote:

Ok good to know that ai does this can it do more

Ai is moving extremely rapidly in development these days

you never know

I think adding your names to the original poem might have messed it up a bit, so I just made a new one. Using your names, I managed to make it shorter too.

include me please

AMG Morgan wrote:

I think adding your names to the original poem might have messed it up a bit, so I just made a new one. Using your names, I managed to make it shorter too.

In a realm where valor would ignite,

Python and The 6th clashed, their swords alight.

Day and night, their battle raged on,

Blows exchanged, a symphony of bronze.

Python struck with venomous delight,

The 6th stood strong, fearless in the fight.

As dawn broke, exhaustion took hold,

Both warriors agreed, a draw foretold.

With respect, they bowed, their hearts alight,

Python and The 6th, a bond ignites.

Their tale of honor shall forever unfold,

In battles fought true, a story to be told

AMG Morgan wrote:

In a realm where valor would ignite,

Python and The 6th clashed, their swords alight.

Day and night, their battle raged on,

Blows exchanged, a symphony of bronze.

Python struck with venomous delight,

The 6th stood strong, fearless in the fight.

As dawn broke, exhaustion took hold,

Both warriors agreed, a draw foretold.

With respect, they bowed, their hearts alight,

Python and The 6th, a bond ignites.

Their tale of honor shall forever unfold,

In battles fought true, a story to be told

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

AMG Morgan wrote:

In a realm where valor would ignite,

Python and The 6th clashed, their swords alight.

Day and night, their battle raged on,

Blows exchanged, a symphony of bronze.

Python struck with venomous delight,

The 6th stood strong, fearless in the fight.

As dawn broke, exhaustion took hold,

Both warriors agreed, a draw foretold.

With respect, they bowed, their hearts alight,

Python and The 6th, a bond ignites.

Their tale of honor shall forever unfold,

In battles fought true, a story to be told

This is actually banger ngl

Carking the 6th wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Well, if we're using tanks to kill ground units, MTs are a more well-rounded unit. But here's the thing: That's what artillery/planes are for. You should always aim to minimise the melee combat you get yourself into, since it just wastes resources. The ground units should be there to do one or a mixture of three things:1. Scout (ACs or motorized infantry)

2. Protect the artillery (meat shield troops: infantry/militia, AT/TD, AA, AC)

3. Capture land quickly (AC, mot inf or LT)

Look, I'm not saying MTs are bad. They have their uses. Your strategy will work, and is recommended if you're not very active, but overall, my strategy is way more efficient and reduces wasted resources. Your strategy is easier to do, but my strategy will pay off in the end with less wasted resources.

Ah, I can see where we differ here now. I am not the most active player around, for various reasons. I’m also more keen melee ground attack move. I know it’s a taboo, but I like quickly taking out enemies before they can respond. Mix of the time once their first core city falls, the enemy gives up and goes it inactive, their army collapsing and becoming easy pickings for me. With more experienced players it’s a bit different. I can’t shoot and scoot very often so I use my air forces and move my strong ground stacks, getting them in positions so I can advance even while I’m gone, and be able to attack the enemy while I get back. It’s pretty bloody and can end in some stacks lost, but the vast majority of the time for me it gets the job done and leaves my forces ready for most threats

It’s a bit different when I have time and I make use of artillery and planes way more often than land, but I always simply preferred MT’s over other armored units. Unless it’s Pan-Asian.

AMG Morgan wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

It’s like a legendary battle where both warriors decide to call it a draw over ruined fields… I should ask ChatGPT to write a poem…

ChatGPT

In a world of chaos, where ruins lay,

Two warriors stood, in the twilight's gray.

Battered and scarred, they faced each other,

Their swords gleaming, brother against brother.

Upon a field once lush, now torn and tattered,

Their footsteps echoed, battle cries scattered.

Their eyes met, fierce determination shown,

For honor and glory, they fought alone.

With each clash of steel, sparks filled the air,

Their swords danced, a deadly affair.

One with the wind, the other like a rock,

Strength and agility, a powerful shock.

The sun wept, casting its fading light,

As they weaved a tapestry of valor and might.

Their movements spoke of skill and might,

An exquisite display, an awe-inspiring sight.

Neither would yield, both fiercely fought,

Neither would falter, though weariness sought.

Their hearts blazed with an unyielding fire,

The echo of their battle reaching higher.

But as shadows lengthened, they paused, they sighed,

In the stillness, a pact was silently implied.

Their wounds and fatigue, too heavy a load,

An agreement emerged, a draw bestowed.

With a nod and a smile, they sheathed their blades,

Their battle halted, their souls not swayed.

For the battlefield lay in ruin and despair,

Yet they found solace, a shared honor to bear.

Two incredible warriors, fierce and bold,

Their stories woven, a legend untold.

Side by side, they left the field behind,

With newfound respect, their spirits entwined.

Though neither emerged with a victory claim,

Their valor and strength will forever remain.

For in a world consumed by strife and gore,

They chose unity, an uncommon lore.

So let their tale be sung, their names held high,

In the annals of warriors who dared defy.

For on that ruined field, a draw was agreed,

And two incredible warriors found unity.

AMG Morgan wrote:

In a realm where valor would ignite,

Python and The 6th clashed, their swords alight.

Day and night, their battle raged on,

Blows exchanged, a symphony of bronze.

Python struck with venomous delight,

The 6th stood strong, fearless in the fight.

As dawn broke, exhaustion took hold,

Both warriors agreed, a draw foretold.

With respect, they bowed, their hearts alight,

Python and The 6th, a bond ignites.

Their tale of honor shall forever unfold,

In battles fought true, a story to be told