Medium Tanks are Good, actually

This is an opinion that I’ve held for a long time. Medium tanks, Which are usually opted out of in exchange for other vehicles or units, are actually pretty useful. They are great at offense, having many useful traits that make them fit for the job of a frontline unit. They are also quite versatile, and can be used in combination with many other units. The medium tank is a great unit, at least when used correctly, in combined arms with other units.

Medium tanks are good units to take on the offensive. While their high damage against light armor is only helpful in small cases, as this unit type isn’t used very often, their decent damage when fighting heavily armored or totally unarmored units is good, but might not seem the most useful, as other units may do more damage.

The trick here is that medium tanks have a good balance. Their speed, health and damage are all quite high-not the highest, but still high. Building on this, their cost is not too expensive, especially in comparison with heavy tanks or strategic bombers. This makes them a handsome unit to combat most others on land, without the issue of slowness and cost with heavy tanks, low health and damage with lighter tanks, and acceptable cost to top it off. But one of the greatest strengths of the medium tank is not on its lonesome, but in combination.

The medium tank is best paired with other units, and is great for combined arms. One of its best strengths lie in its balanced stats, which allow it to accompany other units, specifically artillery and motorized infantry, without slowing down stacks. It can serve as a shield, adding large amounts of health to stacks and serving as a defense against armored units. And is great at the offense, dealing large amounts of damage while its high HP keeps stacks in the fight longer. While there are counters to tanks, its versatile ability to merge with other units and not burden them allows it to be protected while protecting other units at the same time.

There are a few drawbacks to the medium tank. First being the fact that it’s an offensive unit. Even if it is on offense most of the time counter attacks mean it might deal less damage to attacking units. But this is usually mitigated most of the time, where it’s fighting other offensive or defensive units which balances things out. Or in the case of say tank destroyers or heavy tanks, it can be used with Motorized infantry and artillery, it’s speed allowing it to outmatch heavy tanks, while the tank destroyers weakness against unarmored units protects the Medium while not weighing down the unarmored unit that’s used with the issue of speed.

Another drawback is less of that, and more of an alternative, that being the light tank. This is because the good light armor damage and extremely high speed of it allows the light tank to seem like an excellent alternative rather than the slower and more expensive medium. And in certain cases, especially while using the Pan-Asian or even allied doctrine, it may be the case that the light it superior to the medium tank. But most of the time, the high damage against light armor of medium tanks can act as a foil against it. Although the medium might be a bit slower, it has higher damage, and a stack using mediums, even in lower number is more likely to defeat one using light tanks.

The medium tank is a strange case. While I do see it used, it it’s not awfully often. This is in contrast to my generous wielding of the unit, often to powerful effect. The medium tank is excellent on the offense and a versatile unit that works well hand in hand with others. When used correctly in conjunction with other forces, the medium tank is arguably the best tank unit in game.


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z00mz00m wrote:

Another use for MT (outside of regular wars) is to counter heavy users off light armor. Especially when it's Pan Asian light armor. Especially if you're Comintern in Asia, facing one of the Pan Asian countries to your East. In those situations, the MT may be the only unit with the speed and the fighting stats to save you from being eaten alive.
Looking back, this was quite true. Ok playing the Soviet Union and fighting literally all of asia. Their light tanks were adorable on the face of my T-34’s!

CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

Carking the 6th wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

Another use for MT (outside of regular wars) is to counter heavy users off light armor. Especially when it's Pan Asian light armor. Especially if you're Comintern in Asia, facing one of the Pan Asian countries to your East. In those situations, the MT may be the only unit with the speed and the fighting stats to save you from being eaten alive.
Looking back, this was quite true. Ok playing the Soviet Union and fighting literally all of asia. Their light tanks were adorable on the face of my T-34’s!
The T-34s were adorable in the face of my artillery ^^

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

Another use for MT (outside of regular wars) is to counter heavy users off light armor. Especially when it's Pan Asian light armor. Especially if you're Comintern in Asia, facing one of the Pan Asian countries to your East. In those situations, the MT may be the only unit with the speed and the fighting stats to save you from being eaten alive.
Looking back, this was quite true. Ok playing the Soviet Union and fighting literally all of asia. Their light tanks were adorable on the face of my T-34’s!
The T-34s were adorable in the face of my artillery ^^
The artillery was adorable in the face of my tactical bombers ^^
Have a blessed day <3

SamPGS_17 wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

Another use for MT (outside of regular wars) is to counter heavy users off light armor. Especially when it's Pan Asian light armor. Especially if you're Comintern in Asia, facing one of the Pan Asian countries to your East. In those situations, the MT may be the only unit with the speed and the fighting stats to save you from being eaten alive.
Looking back, this was quite true. Ok playing the Soviet Union and fighting literally all of asia. Their light tanks were adorable on the face of my T-34’s!
The T-34s were adorable in the face of my artillery ^^
The artillery was adorable in the face of my tactical bombers ^^
The tactical bombers were adorable in the face of my Pan-asian interceptors ^^

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

SamPGS_17 wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

Another use for MT (outside of regular wars) is to counter heavy users off light armor. Especially when it's Pan Asian light armor. Especially if you're Comintern in Asia, facing one of the Pan Asian countries to your East. In those situations, the MT may be the only unit with the speed and the fighting stats to save you from being eaten alive.
Looking back, this was quite true. Ok playing the Soviet Union and fighting literally all of asia. Their light tanks were adorable on the face of my T-34’s!
The T-34s were adorable in the face of my artillery ^^
The artillery was adorable in the face of my tactical bombers ^^
The tactical bombers were adorable in the face of my Pan-asian interceptors ^^
Those pan-Asian interceptors were adorable in the face of my Axis rocket fighters ^^
Have a blessed day <3

SamPGS_17 wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

SamPGS_17 wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

Another use for MT (outside of regular wars) is to counter heavy users off light armor. Especially when it's Pan Asian light armor. Especially if you're Comintern in Asia, facing one of the Pan Asian countries to your East. In those situations, the MT may be the only unit with the speed and the fighting stats to save you from being eaten alive.
Looking back, this was quite true. Ok playing the Soviet Union and fighting literally all of asia. Their light tanks were adorable on the face of my T-34’s!
The T-34s were adorable in the face of my artillery ^^
The artillery was adorable in the face of my tactical bombers ^^
The tactical bombers were adorable in the face of my Pan-asian interceptors ^^
Those pan-Asian interceptors were adorable in the face of my Axis rocket fighters ^^
Wait but I was fighting the Soviet Union-

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

SamPGS_17 wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

SamPGS_17 wrote:

_Pyth0n_ wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

z00mz00m wrote:

Another use for MT (outside of regular wars) is to counter heavy users off light armor. Especially when it's Pan Asian light armor. Especially if you're Comintern in Asia, facing one of the Pan Asian countries to your East. In those situations, the MT may be the only unit with the speed and the fighting stats to save you from being eaten alive.
Looking back, this was quite true. Ok playing the Soviet Union and fighting literally all of asia. Their light tanks were adorable on the face of my T-34’s!
The T-34s were adorable in the face of my artillery ^^
The artillery was adorable in the face of my tactical bombers ^^
The tactical bombers were adorable in the face of my Pan-asian interceptors ^^
Those pan-Asian interceptors were adorable in the face of my Axis rocket fighters ^^
Wait but I was fighting the Soviet Union-
Oh okay-

“Those pan-Asian interceptors were adorable in the face of my 8 full strength level 2 10-stacked Comintern rocket fighters ^^

Have a blessed day <3

Nah I just had more interceptors and blew theirs to bits! I also used artillery.


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Carking the 6th wrote:

AMG Morgan wrote:

Imperialist San arta wrote:

Ok good to know that ai does this can it do more
Ai is moving extremely rapidly in development these days
Only a matter of time before something big happens. Or maybe we reach a wall and progress stops. We’ll see.
I will end this discution

I also think the TM can be useful but as an extra component to increase firepower in exchange for reducing speed like the D.T.

My favorite doctrine is the Komitern that allows having several armored vehicles and I usually use the Deep Battle doctrine in which it explains that the infantry together with the artillery creates a gap so that the tide of tanks surround the enemy and another group enters to destroy the reserves and opponent cities. I don't care about the LTs because I can force them to defend the cities and in defense they are 50% slower giving enough time to annihilate them :thumbup:

Tlatelolco wrote:

I also think the TM can be useful but as an extra component to increase firepower in exchange for reducing speed like the D.T.

My favorite doctrine is the Komitern that allows having several armored vehicles and I usually use the Deep Battle doctrine in which it explains that the infantry together with the artillery creates a gap so that the tide of tanks surround the enemy and another group enters to destroy the reserves and opponent cities. I don't care about the LTs because I can force them to defend the cities and in defense they are 50% slower giving enough time to annihilate them :thumbup:

Why revive this.
Spellcheck is the epitome of human inginuity

I use them all the time.

My father once said this: “If you don’t know anything, don’t assume you know and don’t say anything you don’t know is true”
I always got annoyed when he said that, but to be honest he’s kinda right if you think about it
Have a good day!

stardragon225 wrote:

Tlatelolco wrote:

I also think the TM can be useful but as an extra component to increase firepower in exchange for reducing speed like the D.T.

My favorite doctrine is the Komitern that allows having several armored vehicles and I usually use the Deep Battle doctrine in which it explains that the infantry together with the artillery creates a gap so that the tide of tanks surround the enemy and another group enters to destroy the reserves and opponent cities. I don't care about the LTs because I can force them to defend the cities and in defense they are 50% slower giving enough time to annihilate them :thumbup:

Why revive this.
Because the tactic of several TM with Motorized Infantry and Rocket AP is obsolete, not cheap (slow for those who use light armor or planes) compared to the "meta" of bombers and artillery that do the most destruction to the opponent while the units Light armored and motorized units were relegated to just taking ground and finishing off a few loose or low health units.

I am working on developing a "COUNTERMETH" to face the allied doctrine 8o

I think the Heavy Armor units can be use with changues.

Panzer division are best armor division not for use More and best Medium Tanks to toher countryes, is because panzer division are combined arms in one division :D

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CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

Carking the 6th wrote:

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Soy hispanohablante y tengo que recurrir a google traductor

Panzer divisions performed better due to being combined arms formations compared to the mass of tanks the Soviets and Americans used in early ww2

Tlatelolco wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

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Soy hispanohablante y tengo que recurrir a google traductor
Oh ok.

Tlatelolco wrote:

Panzer divisions performed better due to being combined arms formations compared to the mass of tanks the Soviets and Americans used in early ww2
The Soviets and Americans only joined 2 years into the war… but you’d be right about the UK and France along with USSR in 1941. Of course once their strategy caught up to the Germans the industry made sure they paid…

CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

Carking the 6th wrote:

Tlatelolco wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

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Soy hispanohablante y tengo que recurrir a google traductor
Oh ok.

Tlatelolco wrote:

Panzer divisions performed better due to being combined arms formations compared to the mass of tanks the Soviets and Americans used in early ww2
The Soviets and Americans only joined 2 years into the war… but you’d be right about the UK and France along with USSR in 1941. Of course once their strategy caught up to the Germans the industry made sure they paid…
Good point but:

"The Germans stumbled upon the optimal ratio of infantry to tanks at about this time: 2 infantry battalions per every tank battalion. Thus, the German panzer division contained 2 motorized infantry regiments, each composed of 2 motorized infantry battalions, to support its single panzer regiment !.

The Soviet and Anglo-American armies would later arrive at the same organization and even though they had at their disposal much more tanks than the Germans, they kept this infantry-to-tank ratio !."

https://ww2clash.com/large-units.php

Yes, that’s basically it. France and the UK had more tanks than Germany but Germany gathered them and used them better. Similar thing happened in Russia. Eventually the Soviets and allies learned. Once that inevitably happened it was over for the Germans!


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