Player’s League:
The PL is a series of games which is created by players for players. The League starts every 1st. of a month a new game on different maps, with the players that have signed for the next game. Nobody needs to play every game. The winners of a match get points for the hall of fame. Direct any query or question you may have to miech, WildLobster or Xarus, Paramunac - the current PL organizers.
Here you can find the hall of fame: click
Prize:
The Player’s League starts in July in a new season. A season runs for six games, after the six month we get the winners of this season. The winners get following prize:
Standard Rules:
Honor Rules:
Example of a standard NAP offer:
Country X to country Y:
I offer your country a NAP that ends in XX days, if any of us wants to cancel the NAP earlier there is a XX hr cancellation time.
In that time, you are not allowed to attack my country and no one else is allowed to use your land to attack me and vice versa.
Game Settings:
General information:
‘Standard rules’ are rules that are enforced by Bytro and the PL organizers. We alone choose what punishment rulebreakers must face, be it an in-game punishment or even expulsion from the game or the league.
‘Honor rules’ are rules that are not necessarily enforced by the PL organizers, however with extreme offenses we reserve the right to punish players for violations such as multiple hidden alliances or extreme cases of NAP abuse. We encourage players to be true to their word and not break a deal made with other players. If you’re not true to your word other players won’t trust you. Be careful when making honor deals with others.
If you go inactive during the game all agreements or partnerships are void immediately.
Do not spam the World Herald with questions or accusations. Contact the PL organizers or refer to the rules that are always posted on the forum including information about when you’re allowed to attack.
The PL is organized by the following four players: @miech, @wildL SPQR, @Paramunac and @Xarus if you have questions feel free to contact us or leave a reply here.
(PL = players league | NAP = non aggression pact | ROW = right of way | SM = shared map | AI = artificial intelligence | HC = high command)
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Can someone give a final ruling on NAPs and the usage/violation of these agreements? I have had agreement broken 2 games in a row, but no consequences for the breaking people. Are they actually a MOD enforceable rule, or are they just a ruise to make people believe you won't attack?
They are not means as "ruses" no. We do enforce them either by taking away points or issuing cards in cases that are not severe.
In cases where there is definite proof are the only ones where we enforce anything, so it's best to get a proper contract with your NAP partner(s). that's why we added the "NAP example" to the rule list. If you go by that you have some form of proof.
Thanks - what is the best way to submit the proof?
Screenshot of ingame messages to an admin. (by PM)
Are there gonna be a sign up for october PL game?
One screen from our fight in Game nr. 2:
yes just posted!EJensen wrote:
Are there gonna be a sign up for october PL game?
Sign me up please.
Game tag: NashBean
Wrong thread. This was for September game. Look for October game.NashBean wrote:
Sign me up please.Game tag: NashBean
Thanks.
Now if I can figure out what year it is, I will doing good. 
Hi guys. When I look at "my games" there's something strange about the september round of the PL: it says "PL August - Group one". And there's a symbol down on the left that I've never seen before.
Is there anyone who's experiencing the same issue?
To be clear: I didn't join the august round, so it's impossible that I looked at the wrong game.
its the new update
This is a little angel, that means that you dead and gone. 
Marat, the name "August" was my bad, it IS the september match, group one - so don't worry about it.. the dove is juss a symbol that has been added to the game, it represents "peace period" in game. A game setting.
As for the wrong name, we tried, but we (the Bytro Staff) cannot change the name on games right now, so we are stuck with that name The developers are treating it as a bug.
Again, don't worry.. it IS the september match
RECON QUESTION FOR MODERATORS-
It was under my understanding that subs at sea, like having a border province, have a specific line of sight and therefor whatever they see is not a violation of NAPs. On the other hand choosing to place your planes on patrol over a players territory would be a violation of NAPs. Is this correct?
The former is a passive sight regardless of placement while the latter is clearly an intentional active maneuver.
Please clarify ASAP
Here is my opinion
As I have been told, both of you are scanning the other party. Subs are kinda special, and the sea belongs to no one.
Technically, NAPs may be broken - its just frowned upon by most players. If a player violates the NAP in your view by (for instance) entering your lands, feel free to act accordingly.
Its up to you whether you consider all this worthwhile to break a NAP.
Personally I dont break NAPs and try my utmost to prevent behavior that triggers a NAP breach. Yet in rare instances, it cant be helped. What I want to say with this, is think what consequences this has in current and future games, and decided whether its worth it or not.
My 2 cents as admin and player of the PL
No fly zones are capable of being one of the terms in a NAP.Casimir le Loup wrote:
RECON QUESTION FOR MODERATORS-It was under my understanding that subs at sea, like having a border province, have a specific line of sight and therefor whatever they see is not a violation of NAPs. On the other hand choosing to place your planes on patrol over a players territory would be a violation of NAPs. Is this correct?
The former is a passive sight regardless of placement while the latter is clearly an intentional active maneuver.
Please clarify ASAP
Does the game end when a single player AND/OR coalition reaches 654 VP points?
I thought I saw that when a coalition gets 60% the administrators call it a game.
Clarification would be great, thanks.
Perhaps our moderator, Paramunac, despite both Morocco and I already congratulating him on a well deserved 2nd place can take a break from needlessly taking the rest of our lands to answer the question.
For the record I want to add something here, Finland broke a NAP with Sweden and joined the winning alliance of Paramunac and Red Barron. Given those 2 have a stranglehold on the game it is in bad taste to keep such a player protected under the umbrella of their alliance. With victory achieved, and guaranteed under the peace Morocco and I offered, I also want to note that the decision by these two to continue the war and take in a backstabber like Finland does nothing to promote the interests of a fun and player filled league. When you admit defeat, offer congratulations, and guarantee through pacts that you do not usurp the position of the victor the rest of the map you would think a moderator at that, would happily take the offer and allow the other players to compete with each other for a chance at actually achieving something. I have received messages from several players complaining that these two show no sportsmanship even in absolute victory.
I for one can understand that eliminating me from any chance at 3rd robs me of points in a race where I am tied with Paramunac and a sliver ahead of Red Barron but it still doesn't change the bad taste it leaves to be tag teamed by both of them when I already capitulated victory to both. Only reinforces what other players feel about them.
Anyway, maybe it would be novice idea to not allow moderators with the power to issue cards and influence games to ALSO compete in the league for Fame!
Hey everybody.
I want to discuss NAP rules. Players league is good because there are much active player, which is very difficult to find in other games. Thats is ok. The problem is with the NAP rule. The spirit of the rules seem to be well intentioned but in the game it is different. In the middle of the games there are cases where 2 coalitions fights vs 1 coalition, and situation where fights are not equal. In other cases, one coalition has additional help of out alliance players, because they are friends or they know each other of other previous games. Coalition are not supposed to help each other. Which is fine if you knew the other coalitions were not helping each other. But you don't know; and it seems like they were.
Maybe the rule should be no NAP for no one for no reason. Might generate a little less trust and help between coalitions since there is not supposed to be any.
NoCasimir le Loup wrote:
Does the game end when a single player AND/OR coalition reaches 654 VP points?
This is not known to me. Nobody reported it.Casimir le Loup wrote:
For the record I want to add something here, Finland broke a NAP with Sweden
You mean, it does nothing to allow you take the third place?Casimir le Loup wrote:
With victory achieved, and guaranteed under the peace Morocco and I offered, I also want to note that the decision by these two to continue the war and take in a backstabber like Finland does nothing to promote the interests of a fun and player filled league
This one is good. When you decline cooperation offer (which had its conditions, of course), decline extending NAP with words "What on earth would I get from another 7 days?", launch surprise attack next day with your ally (on last newspaper report, you and him had total of 31% army, while we had 20%), organize all our neighbours (even my coalition member to attack me) and get beaten in less than 6 hours, do you believe you are entitled to be spared? You took the risks, you lost. Now you, for two straight days, keep spamming my diplomacy tab, this forum, newspapers, with your boring cries fro mercy. What is the problem? Winning the war is not sportsmanship? In that case I have no sportsmanship at all. You think congradulating is the reason to be spared? This is a strategy game, it's about the war. You declared war and got sick of it before it even got real. I didn't spare people who deserved it more by their skills and will to fight for it, I will not do it for you.Casimir le Loup wrote:
When you admit defeat, offer congratulations, and guarantee through pacts that you do not usurp the position of the victor the rest of the map you would think a moderator at that, would happily take the offer and allow the other players to compete with each other for a chance at actually achieving something.
Yea, yea, I understand. We won, therefore, we are the devils. We should have allowed you and those like you to take our lands without fighting, because that would in the spirit of the league? Also, please don't confuse my role as league moderator and player. Those are different roles. As moderator, I have no objections to you, except perhaps the lack of respect for fellow players (asking for other players to be "booted" or "punished"), but as a player, my opinion of you got very low recently. As for the last paragraph, I took the responsibility to moderate PL games games because since this season, that job got harder for people who did it and more manpower was welcome.Casimir le Loup wrote:
I for one can understand that eliminating me from any chance at 3rd robs me of points in a race where I am tied with Paramunac and a sliver ahead of Red Barron but it still doesn't change the bad taste it leaves to be tag teamed by both of them when I already capitulated victory to both. Only reinforces what other players feel about them.Anyway, maybe it would be novice idea to not allow moderators with the power to issue cards and influence games to ALSO compete in the league for Fame!
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