Province loss/gain ambiguities

The province loss/gain system needs work. It can easily be understood that if a nation is in food default, or oil default, then no doubt their morale will be significantly lower and they will lose provinces. Anyway, here is one scenario, or an ambiguity that I do not understand.

I am engaged in a Pacific campaign map, I have successfully beaten Saskatchewan and Kansas as New Mexico player. I have no defaults on my economy; somehow the map decided to generate a province gain for the Philippines in Avoca??, the furthest province to the East of the map.

Here is the pic.

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Here is how the Philippines is situated. (Pacific Campaign)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnNvsm8Bzk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1Qy62Mp4wk

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The Pacific map has had a revolt 'issue' since it was started.

First instance I notice was a province in Kansas revolting to Japan.

Japan was inactive, and had not provinces any where near the Americas.

Provinces have a tendency to revolt to someone with abundantly high morale. If those nations really were AI, I would bet their overall morale was very close to 100%. Thus, the revolting province says to itself, "I would like to be happy, I choose to be Filipino, where all their people are happy!"

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I have a theory about the Pacific map being a β€œslice” from the world map that the distance calculation from western edge to eastern edge takes a shortcut around the back of the map so to speak.

I have asked players to gather data on this before and send it to me, none ever have.

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VorlonFCW wrote:

I have a theory about the Pacific map being a β€œslice” from the world map that the distance calculation from western edge to eastern edge takes a shortcut around the back of the map so to speak.

I have asked players to gather data on this before and send it to me, none ever have.

technically i did, was tangentaly related with another issue so didnt have much for it :saint: .... if i see it happens again in any match i have i will make screenshots and make a thread of it :whistling:
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The issue has happened to me, as British Columbia on a pacific map. My allies got a few provinces that I had captured in the Dakota's, but my morale was great.

VorlonVFC's explanation seems to make sense though.

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Same here, happened twice and once with Philippines who got same province as the picture above in USA when he went AI.

Yeah I was playing as Nat China on Pacific and my morale was good because I had food and was taking capitals but not great as I was at war with at least two people, and suddenly parts of Russia and New Mexico started to revolt to me. This was quite annoying, as not only did I have a useless province, other players just took them and used that war as an excuse to destroy me.

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