Rest in Peace COW (and Bytro in general)

Honestly, the writing has been on the wall for a while, but I think it’s rather safe to say with the current situation. This game is reaching the end of its playable phase. Soon, it will become just another mobile shitfest where the winner is the one with the largest wallet. Bytro, standing as one of the final fortresses against mobile greed, has been conquered by the capitalist hunger of its shareholders. I have very little hope that this tide towards pay to win orientation will be stemmed. Other mobile games have long fallen, and games always had limited lifetimes anyway. There might be a few reversals but it’s very clear where things are headed and will end up eventually. To put it simply, it’s about time to say an early goodbye.

Not many people from the two golden ages of this forum remain, but whatever is left or returns may hopefully come here. Share your memories or rant about the situation. Enjoy our last moments together before the capitalist bomb destroys us all.

Forums and all the people and games within it were definitely the highlight for me. It wasn’t and will never be the same without the community that was built here. I’d name people but there are too many to count and most are gone. Regardless, it was a pleasure. Hopefully we all move on and live happy lives, maybe look back at a random memory of this place. I still use “Noble” in my daily language and I still will until I’m dead!

Rest in peace.


CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

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Well said Carking. I have been playing this game for 5 years or so, and had a wonderful time with many great teammates. This was a FANTASTIC game when strategy and game planning was needed to be successful. Thank you Bytro for providing us this wonderful experience over the years.

Unfortunately, the magic and witchcraft of War Bonds/Gold/Boosters have ruined this game for me and I have just finished my last game. Maybe I'll check in from time to time to see if things have changed...that is if Bytro survives the pay to win format that this game has become.

Thanks again to Bytro, and the many great players I've had the pleasure of competing with over the years. I truly wish Bytro well with their new format.

;(

The President

Well spoken, Carking.

It is a sad time with this year even 2 destructive updates in a row, all geared towards the P2W format, for which the game must apparently be dumbed down beyond recognition ;( ;( ;(

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Well said, Wolverine.

Indeed we should thank Bytro for the great times they haven given us.

I will try the new the new update with only 3 (say: T H R E E) resources. I cannot imagine it poses a greater challenge or improves the game in any way. I am quite sure it just another degradation. But I will try it.

If it is unplayable, it will be my 2nd long goodbye.

But even then, I have had a little over a 100 great games of which the larger part was truly fun.

Once I ranked nr. 155 (before I quit over the introduction of COW v1.5) and when I started again I ranked almost 19.000 .... Back at 9000 abouts since spring and it was fun, though less challenging than before.

I even made 2 (now real-life) friends through this game and a ton of virtual ones, which is saying something good about the old clan playing this game. I say 'old clan' because the 9 year olds are NOT among my friends.....

So, hell yeah! It was a good game and we did have great fun with a (for the lartger part) great community :)))

Thanks Bytro. RIP indeed, but know you are fondly remembered from the days before Stillfront came to the front.

You truly had the best and fairest strategy game in the market. It seems though that all good things indeed must come to an end.

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WolverineM1076 wrote:

Well said Carking. I have been playing this game for 5 years or so, and had a wonderful time with many great teammates. This was a FANTASTIC game when strategy and game planning was needed to be successful. Thank you Bytro for providing us this wonderful experience over the years.

Unfortunately, the magic and witchcraft of War Bonds/Gold/Boosters have ruined this game for me and I have just finished my last game. Maybe I'll check in from time to time to see if things have changed...that is if Bytro survives the pay to win format that this game has become.

Thanks again to Bytro, and the many great players I've had the pleasure of competing with over the years. I truly wish Bytro well with their new format.

Hardly. In over >60 games played and I have only run into 2 mass golders. There’s hardly been any change in the game over the past few months when war bonds were introduced.

How about we all stop pretending gold and war bonds are a big issue?

"Hardly. In over >60 games played and I have only run into 2 mass golders. There’s hardly been any change in the game over the past few months when war bonds were introduced.

How about we all stop pretending gold and war bonds are a big issue?"

Exactly! Before boosters and purple gold, it was rare to run into players spamming units relentlessly and healing units to 100% health with the click of a button. Now with the boosters and purple gold, this is happening in EVERY game. It is very clear game developers want this to be a common occurence in the new Call of War. Some players will like the boosters/purple gold, but it is not fun for me...I prefer to earn a victory thru good strategy and game planning and not from boosters/purple gold. Anyway, doesn't matter to me anymore and like I said, I wish Bytro well with their new format and thank them for the great games they've given us thru the years.

Well said. I completely agree with you. Those stupid War Bonds and now the resource changes have destroyed the game for me. It doesn't feel the same and I don't like this game anymore. Played this game for 2 and a half year and it was a wonderful experience. I made some great memories in this game and joining the forums an year ago, was one of those. I will miss this place, it really used to be fun here. It indeed is pretty sad to see the current dead state of this site and perhaps of the game itself....Everything comes to an end and so had this game. However, don't be sad but remember and enjoy those good ol' times!

Cheers!

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Carking the 6th wrote:

Honestly, the writing has been on the wall for a while, but I think it’s rather safe to say with the current situation. This game is reaching the end of its playable phase. Soon, it will become just another mobile shitfest where the winner is the one with the largest wallet. Bytro, standing as one of the final fortresses against mobile greed, has been conquered by the capitalist hunger of its shareholders. I have very little hope that this tide towards pay to win orientation will be stemmed. Other mobile games have long fallen, and games always had limited lifetimes anyway. There might be a few reversals but it’s very clear where things are headed and will end up eventually. To put it simply, it’s about time to say an early goodbye.

Not many people from the two golden ages of this forum remain, but whatever is left or returns may hopefully come here. Share your memories or rant about the situation. Enjoy our last moments together before the capitalist bomb destroys us all.

Forums and all the people and games within it were definitely the highlight for me. It wasn’t and will never be the same without the community that was built here. I’d name people but there are too many to count and most are gone. Regardless, it was a pleasure. Hopefully we all move on and live happy lives, maybe look back at a random memory of this place. I still use “Noble” in my daily language and I still will until I’m dead!

Rest in peace.

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Destructo the Great wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Honestly, the writing has been on the wall for a while, but I think it’s rather safe to say with the current situation. This game is reaching the end of its playable phase. Soon, it will become just another mobile shitfest where the winner is the one with the largest wallet. Bytro, standing as one of the final fortresses against mobile greed, has been conquered by the capitalist hunger of its shareholders. I have very little hope that this tide towards pay to win orientation will be stemmed. Other mobile games have long fallen, and games always had limited lifetimes anyway. There might be a few reversals but it’s very clear where things are headed and will end up eventually. To put it simply, it’s about time to say an early goodbye.

Not many people from the two golden ages of this forum remain, but whatever is left or returns may hopefully come here. Share your memories or rant about the situation. Enjoy our last moments together before the capitalist bomb destroys us all.

Forums and all the people and games within it were definitely the highlight for me. It wasn’t and will never be the same without the community that was built here. I’d name people but there are too many to count and most are gone. Regardless, it was a pleasure. Hopefully we all move on and live happy lives, maybe look back at a random memory of this place. I still use “Noble” in my daily language and I still will until I’m dead!

Rest in peace.

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CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

Yeah Carking ur correct, its not hard to find gold spammers and big-wallet people who spend money on this game just to ruin our experience. This is a complaint evryone except the golders have and Bytro isnt really doing much against it now.

And yeah to put it bluntly the game is slowly becoming more PTW as time goes on... Hopefully it will be prevented, even though it is difficult.

metervet wrote:

WolverineM1076 wrote:

Hardly. In over >60 games played and I have only run into 2 mass golders. There’s hardly been any change in the game over the past few months when war bonds were introduced.

How about we all stop pretending gold and war bonds are a big issue?

I fully agree gold is not and never was a real problem.

WBs however are a different thing. They reduce the core characteristic of this game: strategy!

Strategy entails militairy, diplomatic and industrial/economic strategy. It requires to think ahead.

WBs reduce that aspect (and the 3 resource thing even further).

WBs introduced more magic into the game. With gold that was limited. Now it is in every game...

And yes, I use my WBs. And yes, it brings a new dymanic to the game.

But NO, it has not improved the game. It has degraded it further.

Now back to Carking's & wolverineM's 'funeral speeches':

This year has seen 2 destructive updates, both degrading the game.

This path will lead to a further simplyfied game, more P2W for 1-day-flie players and ever further destruction of the core elements which made this game great: strategy, fairness and being not-a-chinese-money-trap.

That is what WolverineM & Carking were stating.

That is why we - the long term players - are sad.

That is why we may have to say goodbye (again...as I did a few years back, only returning recently)

So, Metervet, I don't really see the relevance of your comment?

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Nobodyx2 wrote:

Yeah Carking ur correct, its not hard to find gold spammers and big-wallet people who spend money on this game just to ruin our experience. This is a complaint evryone except the golders have and Bytro isnt really doing much against it now.
Golders/big wallet people NEVER were a problem. They were too few to ruin your every game.

It is the updates with WBs and fewer resources that are now (further) dumbing down the game.

It will attract more short term players, but it will still be too slow and complicated for these dimwits and they won't stay, as Bytro clearly (and falsely) hopes.

It will also make the loyal players turn their backs on the game.

Hence these updates may likely kill the game for good.

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Surely it can be fixed! (I'm not leaving no matter what)

Neither am I, atleast not yet

AnonymeggABC1234 wrote:

Surely it can be fixed! (I'm not leaving no matter what)
Aww, that’s too bad

Nobodyx2 wrote:

Neither am I, atleast not yet
Yay!

AnonymeggABC1234 wrote:

Surely it can be fixed! (I'm not leaving no matter what)
I am officially addicted to strategy

The developers want to feed their children. Mana... erm, I mean war bonds, are their way of hiding people who spend money on the game, so they can still claim they're "great strategists" or something. the fact that it changes the game into some sort of "WW2 game with wizards" doesn't matter to them; this is their earning model and we have to live with it or leave.

Getting closer and closer to the latter.

HenrikSchreiber wrote:

The developers want to feed their children. Mana... erm, I mean war bonds, are their way of hiding people who spend money on the game, so they can still claim they're "great strategists" or something. the fact that it changes the game into some sort of "WW2 game with wizards" doesn't matter to them; this is their earning model and we have to live with it or leave.

Getting closer and closer to the latter.

Not the developers, but the shareholders. They’d 100% be better off right now if they were allowed to focus on making a good game without worrying about shareholders and the like. At this rate, the game’s gonna die, just like all the other mobile cash grabs that no one gets anymore. I guess it boils down to the system in which making money is ultimately more important than entertaining people and fulfilling your dreams. Fuck man freeze me and wake me up in 200 years where we are a post scarcity society

CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

I stopped playing 2 weeks ago, its become a shitty mess of golders and noobs with no fun left in it. This has ended. The Poor Man's HOI4 is no more. I'll never forget you guys, the last 2 and a half years were glorious. To all the friends in this forum, farewell. I will probably never reopen this page or the game. Glory to the Union, Glory to the Forum. SLAVA SOYUZU!

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