So saw who was the best army thread etc and think well for an army to be effective they need a good leader for their units...
So in your opinion and why, who was the best General of WW2 (includes & Feldmarschals)
Personally: Konstantin Rokossovsky
Why: This guy played a major role in nearly all of the Soviet Offences and Defences on the Eastern front from Moskva, Stalingrad, Kursk, Smolensk and Warszaw this guy general had the technical ability to stop and attack the germans.
He had the bravery to tell Stalin what had to be done to get the victory and in all occasions he was correct and Stalin called him a saviour. Apart from that the Polish General was a massive conductor for the Soviet Armies and won countless battles and massively outthinked his German Counterparts
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11 Apr 2016, 18:03
Pablo22510 wrote:
Extremely good, and by far the best Allied general in the West, but a mite too agressive. And he kinda messed up at Sicily.
It's possible.
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11 Apr 2016, 18:04
Quasi-duck wrote:
thought you would've voted for Franco!
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11 Apr 2016, 18:04
Quasi-duck wrote:
Pablo22510 wrote:
Relax folks. But Rommel was the best general as a person and as a tactician. However, his one big flaw was stretching his supply lines too long in North Africa. It helped my favourite unit of all times carry out raids, the LRDG.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Relax folks. But Rommel was the best general as a person and as a tactician. However, his one big flaw was stretching his supply lines too long in North Africa. It helped my favourite unit of all times carry out raids, the LRDG.
I thought you would've voted for Franco!
Nah, don't really like him.
The past is a foreign country.
11 Apr 2016, 18:05
Fair enough!
11 Apr 2016, 18:05
Quasi-duck wrote:
Fair enough!
The democracy it's better!
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11 Apr 2016, 18:58
Wasnt a Big Patton Fan...
think Rommel, Gudiern and Mainstein better as well as zkuhov they were better Generals than Patton..
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11 Apr 2016, 18:59
oceanhawk wrote:
think Rommel, Gudiern and Mainstein better as well as zkuhov they were better Generals than Patton..
Patton is good general.
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11 Apr 2016, 19:06
Maximilien wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
think Rommel, Gudiern and Mainstein better as well as zkuhov they were better Generals than Patton..
Patton is good general.
He is.. Not saying he isnt. just think they are better
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11 Apr 2016, 19:14
oceanhawk wrote:
He is.. Not saying he isnt. just think they are better
What do you prefer, Rommel or Manstein?
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11 Apr 2016, 19:39
Maximilien wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
He is.. Not saying he isnt. just think they are better
What do you prefer, Rommel or Manstein?
Though Question...
Well I prefer Rommel.. but in Terms of whom was better Im stuck..
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11 Apr 2016, 19:41
Nah... I think Manstein is better... Commander...
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11 Apr 2016, 20:54
oceanhawk wrote:
Nah... I think Manstein is better... Commander...
Perhaps.
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11 Apr 2016, 20:56
Maximilien wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Nah... I think Manstein is better... Commander...
Perhaps.
He really is...
Even when every other Commander doubted him when they were invading France.. Hitler made a great decision and trusted him.. and boy did it pay off.. completely en circled the allies..
Id say Greatest Commander of the Second world war..
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11 Apr 2016, 20:57
oceanhawk wrote:
Maximilien wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Nah... I think Manstein is better... Commander...
Perhaps.
He really is...
Even when every other Commander doubted him when they were invading France.. Hitler made a great decision and trusted him.. and boy did it pay off.. completely en circled the allies..
Id say Greatest Commander of the Second world war..
Correct.
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11 Apr 2016, 21:02
oceanhawk wrote:
Hitler made a great decision and trusted him
Hitler made him halt for a day, which became three, at Dunkirk for disobeying orders. You got a weird sense of trust.....
11 Apr 2016, 21:10
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Hitler made a great decision and trusted him
Hitler made him halt for a day, which became three, at Dunkirk for disobeying orders. You got a weird sense of trust.....
Either way, he is the reason for the sucsees, yes It could have been taken with out him, but he did a great job
for you...
Sevastopol?
He caught the Reds off guard, and did well
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11 Apr 2016, 21:27
oceanhawk wrote:
Either way, he is the reason for the sucsees, yes It could have been taken with out him, but he did a great job
Rommel did the same you know.
11 Apr 2016, 22:14
oceanhawk wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Hitler made a great decision and trusted him
Hitler made him halt for a day, which became three, at Dunkirk for disobeying orders. You got a weird sense of trust.....
Either way, he is the reason for the sucsees, yes It could have been taken with out him, but he did a great job
for you...
Sevastopol?
He caught the Reds off guard, and did well
he complete opposite for Sevastopol it was fortified and took Manstein a massive time to take it at which Stalingrad then became a cemetry for the 6th Army a few months later.. Sevastopol was one of the biggest defensive markings in history.
Took a long while for the Germans to take it the SS even came in because the Wehrmacht could not break through
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12 Apr 2016, 02:02
Quasi-duck wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Rommel was the best. He would've won in North Africa with more supplies. Heck, he could've even won D-Day if Hitler had listened to him.
I doubt it, the Americans were in Africa too had Bazooka's as well as Shermans, very good gear.
As for D-day, it was unstoppable as too many men landed. If you land enough men, you will win. Even as it was, the units present defending at D-day were multiple times stronger than standard German infantry units, they had an awful lot of heavy weaponry.
Quasi, at D-Day, it was just pure luck we won. The bombers were off target. The rockets on the LSTs barely did anything. Many DD Shermans sunk. The strength of the German garrison at Omaha was more than Allied intelligence showed. It was pure luck the war games were going on and Rommel was away. We're also lucky that Hitler decided to not allow Rommel to dig in most of the tanks. Plus, they couldn't have landed more men. The beaches were crowded enough as they were. Heck, landing was even suspended for a short period of time. If Rommel was there, he could've been able to push us right back into the sea.
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12 Apr 2016, 15:35
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Rommel was the best. He would've won in North Africa with more supplies. Heck, he could've even won D-Day if Hitler had listened to him.
I doubt it, the Americans were in Africa too had Bazooka's as well as Shermans, very good gear.As for D-day, it was unstoppable as too many men landed. If you land enough men, you will win. Even as it was, the units present defending at D-day were multiple times stronger than standard German infantry units, they had an awful lot of heavy weaponry.
Quasi, at D-Day, it was just pure luck we won. The bombers were off target. The rockets on the LSTs barely did anything. Many DD Shermans sunk. The strength of the German garrison at Omaha was more than Allied intelligence showed. It was pure luck the war games were going on and Rommel was away. We're also lucky that Hitler decided to not allow Rommel to dig in most of the tanks. Plus, they couldn't have landed more men. The beaches were crowded enough as they were. Heck, landing was even suspended for a short period of time. If Rommel was there, he could've been able to push us right back into the sea.
Quite true. If thee Desert Fox had been given rein by Hitler to organize a flexible defense, they could have caused many casualtieson the beaches, counterattacked, destroy any Allied push into the mainland, reorganize, and deal with the paratroopers inland.