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Brexit happened! WTH! Consequences??

The past is a foreign country.

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Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Dont think I am.. why? Do you not like politicians doing that stuff?
You just complained about the people of Louth electing Gerry Adams because he meets their needs, so that was pretty stupid of you. I thought you would appreciate honest politicians. You must love Hitler and Mussolini, or maybe Baghdad Bob?
Nope, otherway around. Party leaders have a bigger voice in parlament, and hence get huge support as they know that they are electing a party leader

You are the one you likes Stalin, and BTW Hitler did actually meet lot of his promises, he removed unemployment etc

Stalin did nothing, just send people to the gulag, and show people how bad Communism is. Eventually the USSR had to give up on communism because it was a bad system.


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

Nope, otherway around. Party leaders have a bigger voice in parlament, and hence get huge support as they know that they are electing a party leade
Then don't complain about democracy at work.

oceanhawk wrote:

You are the one you likes Stalin, and BTW Hitler did actually meet lot of his promises, he removed unemployment etc

Stalin did nothing, just send people to the gulag, and show people how bad Communism is. Eventually the USSR had to give up on communism because it was a bad system.

Spewing more stupid.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Spewing more stupid.
He is right on that second one.
The past is a foreign country.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Nope, otherway around. Party leaders have a bigger voice in parlament, and hence get huge support as they know that they are electing a party leade
Then don't complain about democracy at work.

oceanhawk wrote:

You are the one you likes Stalin, and BTW Hitler did actually meet lot of his promises, he removed unemployment etc

Stalin did nothing, just send people to the gulag, and show people how bad Communism is. Eventually the USSR had to give up on communism because it was a bad system.

Spewing more stupid.
Communism doesnt work, its a disease... but that isnt for hre

Point is, things get done better if you vote for somebody that are head of a party(obviously not if they a commie, cos anything they do is prob counter productive)


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

Communism doesnt work, its a disease... but that isnt for hre

Point is, things get done better if you vote for somebody that are head of a party(obviously not if they a commie, cos anything they do is prob counter productive)

OMG Ocean you are breaking the rules, we are talking about Brexit, not how you're wrong or how stupid you sound!

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Communism doesnt work, its a disease... but that isnt for hre

Point is, things get done better if you vote for somebody that are head of a party(obviously not if they a commie, cos anything they do is prob counter productive)

OMG Ocean you are breaking the rules, we are talking about Brexit, not how you're wrong or how stupid you sound!
Nice move when you lose an argument

eitherway, Nigel farage, deserves his own page for memes after this..

Brexit, will be the fall of the UK


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

eitherway, Nigel farage, deserves his own page for memes after this..
Nigel Farage before Brexit: We will get billions each year out of it.

Nigel Farage after Brexit: I was just kidding.

The past is a foreign country.

To be honest, either way, no-one cares about us in the North of England. I'd much prefer to join Scotland in an independence vote. The Scots seem more like countryman than the south.

I voted leave because of the time i soent trying to fined work i was always losing out to migrant workers the UK had noo control over its borders because of Europes freedom of movement which ment they could fill the UK with Migrants which pushes up unemployment. I am quite disadvantaged because i have learning difficaltys and the EU was not working for me.

GrahamRawlings wrote:

I voted leave because of the time i soent trying to fined work i was always losing out to migrant workers the UK had noo control over its borders because of Europes freedom of movement which ment they could fill the UK with Migrants which pushes up unemployment. I am quite disadvantaged because i have learning difficaltys and the EU was not working for me.
You do know the US isn't in the Schengen Pact, right?
The past is a foreign country.

GrahamRawlings wrote:

I voted leave because of the time i soent trying to fined work i was always losing out to migrant workers the UK had noo control over its borders because of Europes freedom of movement which ment they could fill the UK with Migrants which pushes up unemployment. I am quite disadvantaged because i have learning difficaltys and the EU was not working for me.
Chances are... you will have less chance of getting job, or you get paid less..

Companies will leave UK, and now.. pound is worth a lot less..

Leaving the EU was a huge mistake, won by a campaign of lies, I actually hope this gets blocked..


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

I think Brexit will be foolish for both sides overall. That is my opinion, I will not elaborate and I expect no one to disagree because of it.

purplepizza117 wrote:

I think Brexit will be foolish for both sides overall. That is my opinion, I will not elaborate and I expect no one to disagree because of it.
Yay! Political correctness! In all honesty, I don't care what you say. I just don't feel like arguing right now. xD

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I have read many posts on here predicting doom, gloom and the end of the UK due to Brexit.

The facts are the British people knew that voting to leave the EU would have an immediate negative impact on the UK economy yet still chose to leave, why?

Because the British people value freedom and democracy over a few extra pounds in their pockets.

The British stood alone against Nazi Germany for a long period during WW2 and suffered immensely do you guys really think the fallout from Brexit will break Britain?

Facts are the EU is undemocratic, EU laws supersede member state laws, and the heads of the EU are unelected and are therefore open to corporate lobbying ( bribes), the EU has black holes in its budget http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/11209248/EU-auditors-refuse-to-sign-off-more-than-100billion-of-its-own-spending.html

The Southern European countries have massive youth unemployment, Spain and Greece close to 50% http://www.statista.com/statistics/266228/youth-unemployment-rate-in-eu-countries/

Yet the EU is still looking to expand further Eastwards adding even less well-off countries to the mix, with free travel, people in these less well-off countries will naturally want to move the more developed countries, further increasing pressure on wages, services and higher payments required by the richer member states to sustain the project.

Also it’s a known fact that many southern European countries cooked their books in order to join the Euro, this is another time bomb waiting to happen http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/greek-debt-crisis-how-goldman-sachs-helped-greece-to-mask-its-true-debt-a-676634.html

Then there is the important factor of defence Britain is one of the few countries in Europe that spends 2% of its GDP on defence as per NATO requirement Britain and France are the only two credible military powers in Europe with the ability to project power far beyond their shores.

Sad facts are the future now lays in Asia, look at all the economic growth figures and demographic figures, Asia, Latin America etc is where real economic growth is occurring.

Britain already has some solid relationships in these regions and is also head of the commonwealth a 53 country organisation, why not just sign a free trade agreement with the commonwealth?

Britain may suffer some shocks for the coming years, but will thrive long term. It would appear that EU countries are willing to give up liberty for short term prosperity and safety but as Benjamin Franklin said.

β€œThey who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Benjamin Franklin

Finally to fully explain Britain’s position on Europe I quote Churchill.

β€œWe have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”

Winston Churchill

Evengodsfall wrote:

β€œWe have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”

Winston Churchill

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Winston Churchill

If that's all you can come back with to my post which is backed up by facts and figures, I rest my case, lets wait and see, the EU will be finished in its current state within five years max, all we have to do is wait and see.....

Evengodsfall wrote:

If that's all you can come back with to my post which is backed up by facts and figures, I rest my case, lets wait and see, the EU will be finished in its current state within five years max, all we have to do is wait and see.....
I only skimmed your post. Huge chunks of the UK are funded by the EU, last I heard.

I studied economics and own my own business, so am pretty qualified on this matter, the UK pays more into the EU than it receives in rebates, so how are large parts of the UK economy funded by the EU? If anything France, Germany, UK and to a lesser extent Italy fund the poorer member states, these are facts not hearsay.

Evengodsfall wrote:

I studied economics and own my own business, so am pretty qualified on this matter, the UK pays more into the EU than it receives in rebates, so how are large parts of the UK economy funded by the EU? If anything France, Germany, UK and to a lesser extent Italy fund the poorer member states, these are facts not hearsay.
Whatever, ignoring the economic side of it, racism is meant to be everywhere now in the UK from witness reports. The country is in a state of shock, the EU is pissed off with them, Scotland and NI are making shapes about leaving, the value of the pound has drop, apparently black market traders aren't accepting the pound anymore, jobs will most likely leave London and go to Paris, Dublin, Frankfurt etc.

None of that sounds good to me.

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