Combat aircraft talk thread

oceanhawk wrote:

Oceanhawk piliots, are not trained to just hunt subs. They are trained as a multi mission maritime pilot, And Oceanhawks are trained in numerous fields. This really shows, you lack of basic combat aircraft knowledge..

oceanhawk wrote:

The Havoc, doesnt have the weaponary, compared to the Oceanhawk, and they are in different fields as well. But crossing eachothers roles, the Oceanhawk is ahead.

You can't use an Oceanhawk in the same role as a Mi-28. Note the air-to-air missiles that the Mi-28 can have, which the Hawk does not.

SH-60B armament:

• Up to three Mark 46 torpedoes or Mk-54s,
• AGM-114 Hellfire missile, 4 Hellfire missiles for SH-60B and HH-60H and MH-60R, 8 Hellfire missiles for MH-60S Block III.
• AGM-119 Penguin missile (being phased out),
• M60 machine gun or, M240 machine gun or GAU-16/A machine gun or GAU-17/A Minigun
• Rapid Airborne Mine Clearance System (RAMICS) using Mk 44 Mod 0 30 mm Cannon

Mi-28 armament:

• Guns: 1× chin-mounted 30 mm Shipunov 2A42 cannon with 250 rounds (±110° horizontal fire)
• Hardpoints: Two pylons under each stub wing to mount bombs, rockets, missiles, and gun pods. Main armament configurations include:
  • 16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles and 40 S-8 rockets, Or
  • 16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles, and 10 S-13 rocket, Or
  • 16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles, and two 23 mm Gsh-23L gun pods with 250 rounds each.
  • Other ordnance: 9K118 Sheksna and 9A-2200 anti-tank missiles, 8 Igla-V and Vympel R-73 air-to-air missiles, 2 KMGU-2 mine dispenser

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Oceanhawk piliots, are not trained to just hunt subs. They are trained as a multi mission maritime pilot, And Oceanhawks are trained in numerous fields. This really shows, you lack of basic combat aircraft knowledge..

Knowing what a pilot is trained in for every aircraft ever is not "basic combat aircraft knowledge".... Besides, multi-mission could mean sub-hunting, sea rescue and recon.

oceanhawk wrote:

The Havoc, doesnt have the weaponary, compared to the Oceanhawk, and they are in different fields as well. But crossing eachothers roles, the Oceanhawk is ahead.

Saying that an attack helicopter has less weaponry than a sub-hunter makes you sound like an utter moron. Except for the torpedoes, but then those are useless against heli's.

You can't use an Oceanhawk in the same role as a Mi-28. Note the air-to-air missiles that the Mi-28 can have, which the Hawk does not.

SH-60B armament:

• Up to three Mark 46 torpedoes or Mk-54s,
• AGM-114 Hellfire missile, 4 Hellfire missiles for SH-60B and HH-60H and MH-60R, 8 Hellfire missiles for MH-60S Block III.
• AGM-119 Penguin missile (being phased out),
• M60 machine gun or, M240 machine gun or GAU-16/A machine gun or GAU-17/A Minigun
• Rapid Airborne Mine Clearance System (RAMICS) using Mk 44 Mod 0 30 mm Cannon

Mi-28 armament:

• Guns: 1× chin-mounted 30 mm Shipunov 2A42 cannon with 250 rounds (±110° horizontal fire)
• Hardpoints: Two pylons under each stub wing to mount bombs, rockets, missiles, and gun pods. Main armament configurations include:
  • 16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles and 40 S-8 rockets, Or
  • 16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles, and 10 S-13 rocket, Or
  • 16 Ataka-V anti-tank missiles, and two 23 mm Gsh-23L gun pods with 250 rounds each.
  • Other ordnance: 9K118 Sheksna and 9A-2200 anti-tank missiles, 8 Igla-V and Vympel R-73 air-to-air missiles, 2 KMGU-2 mine dispenser

And the Mi-28 cant fire A to air missiles, just the AT missiles, according to two sources, that are not wikipdedia.

Oceanhawk pilots, are trained to protect carriers, from all threats. Remember Oceanhawks and Seahawks are not the same, just very similar...

also, the MH-60R can carry 2 penguins....

oceanhawk wrote:

Hahaha, wikipedia is nonsense.. Id never ever take a reference from there...

And the Mi-28 cant fire A to air missiles, just the AT missiles, according to two sources, that are not wikipdedia.

Oceanhawk pilots, are trained to protect carriers, from all threats. Remember Oceanhawks and Seahawks are not the same, just very similar...

also, the MH-60R can carry 2 penguins....

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Hahaha, wikipedia is nonsense.. Id never ever take a reference from there...

And the Mi-28 cant fire A to air missiles, just the AT missiles, according to two sources, that are not wikipdedia.

Oceanhawk pilots, are trained to protect carriers, from all threats. Remember Oceanhawks and Seahawks are not the same, just very similar...

also, the MH-60R can carry 2 penguins....

Alright, now you're just living in denial. It is a fact that the Mi-28 can have air-to-airs. Here is a Mi-28 armed with Vympels.

You are comparing helis from different catogorieses, but even still Oceanhawks can take a havoc all the rounds..

But then you match a havok with an apache lol, Apache rules

or even a cobra and bam...

I cant think of one area Russia/Soviet helis beat American,

oceanhawk wrote:

Still cant beat an apache, plus an oceanhawk got hellfire.

You are comparing helis from different catogorieses, but even still Oceanhawks can take a havoc all the rounds..

But then you match a havok with an apache lol, Apache rules

or even a cobra and bam...

I cant think of one area Russia/Soviet helis beat American,

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Still cant beat an apache, plus an oceanhawk got hellfire.

You are comparing helis from different catogorieses, but even still Oceanhawks can take a havoc all the rounds..

But then you match a havok with an apache lol, Apache rules

or even a cobra and bam...

I cant think of one area Russia/Soviet helis beat American,

The topic was about an attack helicopter armed with air-to-airs defeating an anti-sub heli armed with ASM's and miniguns.....

oceanhawk wrote:

see there you go, you were looking it up, had to google the fact they use A to air missiles.

oceanhawk wrote:

The anti sub heli, still rules the ocean, that was my original point, and yea I have no clue how that went to here. And armed with Hellfire missiles... so yea..

Hahaha, on the sea the oceanhawk is the best..

A seafire cant beat an Oceanhawk lol

oceanhawk wrote:

A seafire cant beat an Oceanhawk lol

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

A seafire cant beat an Oceanhawk lol

Do you even know what a Seafire is....?

oceanhawk wrote:

you do know its a plane yes..

Let's steer this topic to fighter planes, shall we?

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

you do know its a plane yes..

Alright, well, your saying a poorly armed helicopter can defeat a fixed wing aircraft armed with 20mm cannons, so it is clearly impossible to hold an intelligent discussion with the likes of you.

First of all, obviously, Im talking about helicopters... An f-18 would make scrap of an Oceanhawk

the Seafire, still would lose to an Oceanhawk. Oceanhawk has Hellfire missiles

Pablo22510 wrote:

Let's steer this topic to fighter planes, shall we?

Or we could talk about, top 10 attack helicopters..

oceanhawk wrote:

First of all, obviously, Im talking about helicopters... An f-18 would make scrap of an Oceanhawk

the Seafire, still would lose to an Oceanhawk. Oceanhawk has Hellfire missiles

oceanhawk wrote:

Or we could talk about, top 10 attack helicopters..

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

First of all, obviously, Im talking about helicopters... An f-18 would make scrap of an Oceanhawk

the Seafire, still would lose to an Oceanhawk. Oceanhawk has Hellfire missiles

The Seafire is not even a helicopter....

Seafire=Plane

F-18=Plance

Oceanhawk beats seafire

F-18 beats Oceanhawk

f-18 Beats seafire

does that clear things up for you?

Pablo22510 wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Or we could talk about, top 10 attack helicopters..

Apache rules the skies!

1. Apache
2. Viper
3. Ka-52
4. Eurocopter tiger
5. Havoc
6. Prob A129 then

Second on that list should be the ACH-47. Maaaan, that had quite a punch.

oceanhawk wrote:

Oceanhawk beats seafire

F-18 beats Oceanhawk

f-18 Beats seafire

does that clear things up for you?