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Demi-World Chronicles- Titanic War

Heyo! @whowh @K.Rokossovski @Karl von Krass you all know what this is about from the thread Fiction. The rest of you... do what you like.

The Titanic War- 1914~1918

The Titanic War was the result of intense military, economic and ideological rivalry between the great powers of the Westland. The deterioration of relations began in 1903, with the disastrous War of the Noran Recreation. The Pegronian Union developed unprecedented hate for the Norans, and the Westland was shocked by the Creation of the Red Union in 1904, mirroring the Noran Union. Its ideology was unacceptable by the Armstris and Pegronians, and both nations interests were threatened by its creation. Both had hoped to grab swathes of land in the destabilisation following the War of the Noran Recreation, but instead were slapped in the face with the creation of a great power.

Relations continued to go south in the next years. The URI won an astounding victory in the War of 1904, giving it absolute control over the surrounding region. The Nation also became communist like the Red Union, and allied itself with the Red Union. A naval arms race began between the Armstris Empire and Red Union, which made a naval conflict virtually inevitable. In 1910, the slow annexation of the Blacklands by the Armstris saw Lesotho join the Noran/Inamortan Alliance. Beeth and Anglia, while both puppets of the Armstris, had populations extremely anti-Armstris, the same applied to Azernia.

The West Pact or Entente Pact, formed between Mesra, Pegronian Union, Dora and the Armstris Empire was very fractured. By 1912, both Dora and Mesra had virtually left the pact, and the Pegronians and Armstris only remained allies due to a common enemy. In 1913, Dora virtually dismantled its armed forces, making its entry into a war impossible. Meanwhile the URI created the West League, a formal and strong alliance between its puppets, itself, the Red Union and Lesotho.

The final straw that sparked the Titanic War began with the Blacklands Uprisings. Beeth, Anglia, Azernia all revolted against the Armstris. This was a great insult to the nation, Fu Hong having said centuries before that “Our flawless Empire does these nations a great favour by not fully occupying them and wiping out their populace.” Anglia, Beeth and Azernia were all fully occupied, and somewhat following Fu Hong’s words, the Azernian Genocide began. Following these events, Lesotho and the URI ordered partial mobilisation, encouraged by the Red Union. The tensions became unbearable, and hell broke loose when the Inamortans entered some military assets into Azernia to “save the populace from extermination.”

This action was due to bolstering Inamortan confidence, and was meant to start a war. The Red Union assured them that it would join in any war, and the Inamortans saw their chance upon Dora’s demilitarization. So the act was simply an excuse to spark a war and not be blamed, so as to stop international intervention. The resulting war was unprecedented in the carnage it caused and destabilised the world.

“First Line” trench, filled with Inamortan men.

The Armstris Empire declared war upon the URI February 3rd, the Red Union on the 5th and all of the URI’s puppets on the 6th, Lesotho on the 8th. The Red Union declared war on the Armstris Empire on the 5th and the Pegronian Union on the 6th. The Titanic War had begun, and it would become one of the greatest conflicts of the 20th century.

Technology of war in 1914

The planning and conduct of war in 1914 were crucially influenced by the invention of new weapons and the improvement of existing types since the past wars. The chief developments of the intervening period had been the Self-Propelled Artillery and the Rapid Fire Rocket Artillery, as well as the Devastators. The Red Union was the inventor of the RF Rocket Artillery, but it had infant versions only, for example the H.3. Meanwhile the Armstris Empire possessed the greatest Devastator Fleet, 300 Emperor Class Devastators. The Armstris were also the only nation to produce SP Artillery, a new kind of mechanized artillery that “rained death upon tanks”. These technologies would be prime factors in the outcome of the war.

The Initial Stages of the War

Initial strategies

The Ember Plan

The Ember Plan was the initial Inamortan plan for a lightning victory over the Armstris First Colonies. General Richton Ember oversaw the planning in the months leading up to the war. The attack was to compromise of 25 infantry divisions (250,000 men), 10 armoured divisions (3,000 tanks and armoured cars), 500 Artillery pieces and 800 planes. The Inamortan forces would sweep south and wipe out the weak Armstris Garrison in Free Azernia, and then dismantle her ownership of Occupied Azernia. The Plan’s failure would not matter, since if the offensive was stopped or pushed back, the Inamortans were not in danger due to the buffer space provided by their puppets the Eastern Alliance and Tropia.

However, the war came sooner than expected and only 12 infantry divisions were available. The Inamortan generals panicked, not wanting to fight advanced Armstris equipment that would arrive to reinforce the enemy soon, and so launched a badly coordinated offensive all the same. The result was disastrous. 7 infantry divisions were cut off and encircled, 5 others were decimated. It was a major Armstris victory in the first few months of the war. Despite this, the Armstris could not seize the initiative. Not enough resources or manpower was available, and so they settled in for defence.

The Strategy of the Pegronian Front

When war broke out, the Pegronians were increasingly nervous. Their naval prowess was completely unhinged, and their air force was inferior. Their only condolence was the fact that they were an island, therefore harder to attack. In fact, the Pegronian Union was caught completely off guard. It had actually began considering leaving the Western Pact, and somehow missed the hints of war. Luckily for the Pegronians, the Norans did not know this.

Nora had had its heart torn out by the Pegronian Union many times before in history. Therefore, the Red Union had an irrational fear of the Pegronians. In reality, a quick Noran assault would have decimated the Union. But due to overestimation, the Pegronians managed to pull together. Each side on the front had different strategies:

The Pegronian Plan One

Plan One outlined an invasion of the Red Union. However, it was different to the other Pegronian invasions. Instead of attempting to punch through a wide eastern front with Nora, it would focus on poorly defended Wintonia. Over 130 divisions were to land there, with the Union putting all its hopes on this offensive. The date was set for 1915 April 22nd, and the Pegronian high command believed the URI would be neutralised by then, securing his invasion force’s western/southern flank.

The Red Union Red Fortress

Whilst Pegronia planned an offensive, the Norans were focused on the defensive. Red Fortress had begun with the Iron City in 1909, and was now a formidable line of Fortress Cities and defensive positions along the coast. The navy was also ordered to be vigilant and remain in port. However, Wintonia was ignored just as the Pegronians hoped, and it housed virtually no Red Union troops or defensive structures, except the weak Wintonia Republic National Guard, a small force of 35,000 ill-equipped men. The coast near Norso was also significantly reinforced, but there some plans were laid for an offensive.

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9 May 2021, 03:23

Karl von Krass wrote:

I REALLY think Armstris is the MC, the amount of Detail put into Armstris suggests propaganda film that highlights general, i mean Field Marshal Hog's achievements, the general competence of the Naval high command, and the performance of Devastators in general. And also the lack of information on the West League. Basically the West League are portrayed as Inferior class, No organisation, cannot defend their lands cowards which go about surrendering to armies smaller than them.

What i mean by MC is that there is a Bias in this particular telling of facts.

Evidently it can also be That their records were destroyed due to their defeat later on or atleast altered by treaty.

yeh, i want the Red Union to win, because if Armstris wins then Genocide will continue on a larger scale.

No, Im trying to be unbiased... what is there to say about West League in 1914? they just failed. Devastators were invented by Dora, also The Armstris Empire is by far the most powerful nation, so yes the League is inferior. The URI will put up a horrendous defence for 1915-16 so you arent right about that. Here is some general info about Red Union:

The Red Union is a totaliterian state, however its leader doesnt have absolute power, somewhat like the position of Mussolini. Im not sure what else to say, you have to ask specific questions about it.

URI: The United Republic of Inamorta used to be balanced by the EA, but after winning in 1904 they gained absolute regional supremacy and established puppet governments in Tropia, Oslo, Great Olton, and the EASTERN Alliance. again if u want ask specific questions.

Armstris Empire:

Established 1617, Fu Hong came to power 1613. The Army high command is shattered, and Hog is basically carrying the First Colonies armies, but that will change when Colonel-General Wulf arrives in Sea Demon. There is no bias towards them, 1914 was just a good year for them!

Also on the genocide thing, Demi-World is very much only just begining to stumble into some sort of international law and human rights. Here is some stuff on the Azernian Genocide:

Azernian Genocide

The Azernian Genocide was the systematic mass slaughter and deliberate attempt to wipe out the Azernian race, lasting from 1914-1918. It resulted in 189,298 Azernian deaths, but did not expand further and was stopped at the end of the Titanic War. The main killing occurred in death camps CC-1, CC-2, CC-3. The camps were rather slow, and used machine guns to murder their victims. Beside those camps, 3 other existed, the Sarms 15, Underberg and Hopers Ville Camps. All camps were later abandoned, many were destroyed.

The Azernian Genocide was initially Colonial Order#151 which stated that the “populace of Azernia should be kept in check due to the mass riots”. However, it grew to a systematic slaughter by local ACS Forces, greatly encouraged by Colonel Sef, a genocidal maniac and a fanatic who viewed the Azernians as a lesser peoples. Therefore, the Armstris Government took little blame despite its involvements, Sef was given a Black Death Sentence, and shipped over to Dora for the actual execution following the post-war years. Azernia itself was subdued beyond protest. The Armstris Imperial Government received no backlash from the horrific event, blame was given to the ACS forces involved, and most of those received punishment.

and some stuff on the Blacklands Uprisings:

Blacklands Uprisings

The Blacklands Uprisings was a period of open rebellion in the states of Free Azernia, Beeth and Anglia, to a lesser extent Occupied Azernia. The period started in January 15th and lasted until February 5th.

The open rebellion began in Free Azernia, when 20,000 men, most armed, stormed the ACS (Armstris Colonial Service) headquarters. What meant to be a peaceful protest turned into a gunfight, and when the ACS HQ was razed turned into widespread rebellion. This revolt spread to Anglia and Beeth. In Azernia the revolt was short lived, a population unorganized and uncoordinated. The Azernian Revolts lasted for just 3 days before dying down after harsh repressions, and events such as the Azernian Genocide.

Beeth and Anglia however, had a much more organized and gutsy populace. The ACS Quarters were burned, and ACS leaders were hanged in public. On the 20th of January 15,000 armed militia took multiple cities in Anglia, while the entire country of Beeth was liberated and 50,000 armed. However, by the 3rd of February things were looking grim. The SACS (Special Armstris Colonial Service) went into action and The Anglia Massacre and Beeth Massacre followed, over 38,000 were killed and 70,000 arrested.By the 5th of February the last of rebel forces lay their arms down, and the Blacklands Uprisings were over. What followed was a period of harsh martial law, and eventually a shaky return to normal.

Plus you really shouldnt prefer the Red Union. Its people are fairly happy, but the government is brutal.

Once again i beg everyone to ask more specific questions, because i realise that you dont know what i do, and i cant send EVERYTHING in these posts, so please ask me stuff

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 03:24

whowh wrote:

GrandEmpire wrote:

The Red Union consists of Nora (a very large, industrious country), Wintonia, Mangonia and Xin (all small nations)
Why does this sound too much like the USSR? One mega large nation with a ton of resources and some small nations bound to it. Also, it is almost the same as a former state that it rebelled from.
It is not based on the U.S.S.R. The smaller nations, exlcluding Wintonia, were all already fairly Noran. Plus the people are actually happy with their nation
“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 03:33

right, No human rights, also how is this War not mobile? You have SP arty, Devastators etc, i would see the complete destruction of all Noran offensive capabilities in the Sea as being being a thing the Armstris navy is completely capable to commit to do.

Lesotho was conquered within 1 month of invasion, thats as fast as Germany's invasion of Poland and certainly faster than ww1.

Also i dont see how entire Armies are going to be mobilised across the sea in such a prevarious position for either side, did Noran create s counter for devastators? If they didnt what were they doing in Deval island? The Pergonians have An up-to-date Navy and logistics line? If not how are they intending to gain victory in Wintonia unless 20:1 superiority?

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Secretary of Nova0213
9 May 2021, 03:37

wot wot your talking too quikly.. i didnt understand all of that.

Amrstris Empire doesnt want to damage their navy too much, the Red Union navy is much bigger and can repair much faster, the Red Union produces ships 3 times the speed of AE.

Pegronian Union has a very modern navy as mentioned.

I didnt get anything else you said.

Also there ARE human rights just not as heavily inforced

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 03:37

war will get mobile going into 1915, position of respective countries is nightmarish for logistics

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 03:39

GrandEmpire wrote:

war will get mobile going into 1915, position of respective countries is nightmarish for logistics
from what i know No one has a good logistics staff and This will be really interesting
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Secretary of Nova0213
9 May 2021, 03:41

yes they do! Well, actually no one does. Pegronian Union does, but it has been unprepared...

PLEASE ask me specific questions i want you to know as much as possible aghhh.

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 03:46

statistics: What are the belligerent's GDP?

Population?

Tradition and culture?

Who wants what?

What is the wider world going to do?

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Secretary of Nova0213
9 May 2021, 03:56

OK i will explain some stuff.

Tbh i dont know how GDP works, but the Red Union is number one economy, Pegronian Union is 3rd, Armstris Empire is 5th, URI is way back

The Red Union has a massive population, in the billions. Armstris Empire has about 370,000,000 in the Home Island, but adding all occupied territory and puppet nations, over 800 mill.

TRadition and culture... ye even i cant make that up for so many nations. But if you want, just imagine Red Union culture as China, AE as Japan, Pegronian Union as Prussia, URI as Iran. Just their CULTURES nothing else

Who wants what is more complicated... Red Union mainly wants to establish dominance over the Westland, and play a larger role in the wider world, since it is almost shackled by AE and PU. The URI is very overconfident and its leaders imagine an empire controlling the entire central and south Westland. Armstris Empire doenst have any major imperialistic goals, just wants to subdue Red Union since it is probs the biggest threat. Pegronian Union as i said just wants to be left alone, it was sucked into the war, and it doesnt like having a major, hungry nation right next to it (Red Union) that is its mortal/ideological enemy.

Wider world is quite interested. Mesra is unnoticably moving towards imperialistic dictatorship, and wants to start supporting West Pact, as i said Mesra is a former member. Mesra and Pegronian Union have an official alliance, however historically they arnt great freinds. The Doran Empire is rapidly finishing its Army Reconstruction program and may join the war since it is anxcious to gain back some of its lost power. Any more info will have to be more specific questions... your asking too general and wide questions that are hard to write everything about, ask more specific questions.

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 03:58 (edited)

Why did dora disarm and immediately rearm? Crazy plan? Stupid leaders?

EDIT: Nominal GDP calculated by private spendings + foreign investments + Governmental spendings + (exports - imports)

PPP is basically this but with Cost of Living factored in.

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Secretary of Nova0213
9 May 2021, 04:02

Dora had such a trash army that it felt it needed to reconstruct from scratch

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 04:09

GrandEmpire wrote:

Dora had such a trash army that it felt it needed to reconstruct from scratch
seems legit Wehrmacht was soo good since they removed the old
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9 May 2021, 04:10

any other nation besides these???

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Secretary of Nova0213
9 May 2021, 04:11

YES of course! i think there are 56 in total

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 04:11

they are standing back doing nothing?

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Secretary of Nova0213
9 May 2021, 04:15

Why should they? Who wants to be sucked in a potential world war? plus they are quite far away, all countries in Westland are in the war

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
9 May 2021, 04:18

Westland is a super continent connected to other land masses?

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Secretary of Nova0213
9 May 2021, 04:19

What? No, it kind of looks like the Americas. It's a continent.

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength
11 May 2021, 22:31

wot mod delete these spam messages their ruining the thread

“I do not love the sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior. I love only that which they defend.”
“If you win, you need not explain!”
“What difference does it make if destruction is wrought under the name of dictators or in the name of democracy?”
War is Peace
Slavery is Freedom
Weakness is Strength

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