Ebb And Flow Of The Forums Is Different.

I feel like the introduction of Carking into the forums changed the Forums from a legitimate place of assistance and help to a spam liking garbage post fest. This is not meant to offend anyone, but full offence to all of those who participate in this, i used to like this place, and it was moderated quite well, now its so absolutely trash that the mods cant bother to even attempt to try to moderate it anymore. This place also used to be a safe space for anyone of any rank, but now, apparently, rank = how smart and powerful you are, which is utter bullshit. I'm not blaming Bytro for anything, i'm blaming the horrible users who turned this into a straight up land-fill of burning plastic, not only are half the posts just spammed for likes, 9/10 of them aren't even relevant to anything to do to with CoW anymore. "Its not that bad, It can't be!" If you were around back in the younger Forum days, you know very well what i mean. I am leaving the forum, besides to check my wall and write some HELPFUL stuff every so often, i will not interact with shit-posting and like spamming anymore, do not flood my wall with garbage either, please, as i would like to read stuff that matters, in any sense of being. Do not take this post out of context and say that i hate the new gen of Forum (Carking joining+), trust me i do, they suck, and think everything is based around rank and how many likes you have (Some aren't like this, lots of love to those people :thumbup: ), which is WHY i dislike them. But this isn't about me entirely, its about the Ebb and Flow of the Forum, lets look into some examples. The 4 RP posts with like 200 pages each. shit-posting like-fest. Go back a few years and those conversations were 50 Pages max and contained everything that all 4 of these ones did. A real dedicated RP conversation that didn't turn into shit-posting and garbage conversations. Now, i know y'all are gonna hate me in the comments, and that's fine, doesn't affect me. Lets look at perhaps another example... Now this one is absolutely horrible, mo lord. The election posts. Not only were the previous ones actually fruitful and contain legitimate info that i think is quite fine, and its good content, the new one was literally just an argument about the word French. That's it. Most mind-numbing post I've ever read, some people did good, and that's really good, they're getting somewhere, kudos to them for knowing the difference between garbage and quality content, and not arguing about the word French... French, is there something wrong with the French? Is this some kinda Racist thing? Not sure, but it kinda pisses me off how people censor a word that describes a group of people who are very real and very much alive, and not all are bad. "It's just a joke!" Don't joke about censoring a population of people. That shit is NOT funny, only bad people and racist's find that stuff funny.Now i don't go around saying Ame***ans like they're a filthy disease we shouldn't mention. Now, if you are all still with me and not yelling in chat for me to leave faster or threatening me, lets look at some Play-through posts, ah yes, this, THIS IS QUALITY, South Africa Play-through's, Aussie Play-through's, Mexico Play-through's, All good stuff, good job guys....Until a while after Carking and his gang joined and messed them up, turning them into 60 page conversations and flooding them with garbage. Still with me? Great! Lets go over WHY i'm making this post shall we?

Lets see.... Aha, yes, this morning someone instantly assumed that i was in a bad mood because i didn't get a spot in some silly HWW game 3 weeks ago that ended up turning into, what I've heard to be, kinda bad and not worth the gold. I won't name names, as that is not the point, the only person who should receive lash from this post is me, and i very well expect it. Not sure what to talk about now, but lets see what else i can pull from the land-fill, nope, not much else, I think I'm about done here, hanging up my hat and handing my salutations to those who deserve it, i might add more later if i feel like it, and i probably will, this is not about me entirely, no, its to show people how much has actually changed. And it saddens me to see this happen, but as a good man once said; "Change is Inevitable, bound by time itself to happen, so instead of trying to revert it, we should instead hope for the best, and expect the worst." - [REDACTED]

I knew the Forum would eventually change, but for the worst, I did not think it would be so. I'll gladly chat with anyone who would like to discuss anything, but my entire argument rests here, forevermore, and to the end. (Oh btw Carking i know you'll find this, you have responded to threads that are legitimately 3+ years old, you're bound to see this eventually, if it be in 5 minutes or 5 years, this isn't entirely on you, you could have changed what you chose to influenced and instead turned this place into a thriving, nice community with the activity you brought with you.)

You may still find me in the CoW Game chat, you may also send me CoW mail or DM me from the chat, i will respond within 3-5 business days.

This is your's truly;

Fox-Company, LTS Specialist.

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-VIP- wrote:

the rule that says an alliance should be known by everyone, but you literally make a plan to do the opposite, try and trick people making fake boarder conflicts and new paper articles like you are beefing, and everyone saw throw it the whole time, haha dont know how you think people did, and it has no place in a Rp that everyone is doing to have fun and tell a story. save that stuff for a HWW that everyone dose or something

i would have been perfectly fine if you guys made up a sweet story that i could work off of but you arnt even roleplaying, you were just board and attacked everyone for no reason.

iv always liked you Kadeko but if you really believe the stuff you are saying then you are blinded

What about SOTO? Does everyone know SOTO? No.

You kept hiding its existent, expecially when I heard Tanke will soon announce its alliance.

That means it hasn't been known by everyone after I sabotaged the convo.

Tell me what's the fake border conflict, and NP articles? I haven't beef with someone on NP.

Blinded? Do you want me to post the whole rules of the RP? Don't say that you liked me, your action doesn't reflect your words.

I'm not blinded, turns out I still read the rules.

I may do some rule breaks, such as invading Sweden's core province, or attacking India's units 10 mins earlier before day change.

But that's just it.

You, in the other hand, demands people to be realistic.

You elected a monkey as the leader of Venezuela, and create nuke in the first place, when in reality... Venezuela didn't.

But, you just cannot handle the fact that you kept attacking despite your need to surrender, already shown that you broke the rules!

What else do you want by pointing people? Hmmh?

You're the one who's so blinded, with the rest of your allies, that accusing us as a rule breaker.

We even discuss the plan a lot, even the rules to ensure no rule breaks.

You're blinded with ignorance, and your arrogance to see what's coming to you.

You knew there are moles in your place, but you're just too careless to find them.

I realized the power I held, Power! The power to rule! To make the world grovel at my feet!
We will begin with a reign of terror. A few murders here and there, murders of great men, murders of little men, just to show we make no distinction.
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Carking's alt.

i dont even know what SOTO is, dont know what you keep saying,

we made it very clear that Venezuela, Brazil, South Africa and Australia were in an alliance with a lot of news paper articles about it ,

the one between you and the U.S, a fake conflict to try and hide the fact you are working together while making news paper aricles saying you are going to war, and in CarKings war declaration he said you and turkey so you were in fact hiding your alliance breaking the rules with turkey using a share map with someone he is allies with the attacking them with zero tension also bending the rules,

its all in the history books,

go back and look, thats what we follow as a guide, the story, and you RP non of it.

Facepalms

I do not need tensions to support an ally

Glory to the Union!
Glory to the Red Army!
Glory to the Revolution!
Marshal of the Forum High Command

Kadeko iv known you guys for 2 years, stop acting like i just met you in the last two week,

-VIP- wrote:

i dont even know what SOTO is, dont know what you keep saying,

we made it very clear that Venezuela, Brazil, South Africa and Australia were in an alliance with a lot of news paper articles about it ,

the one between you and the U.S, a fake conflict to try and hide the fact you are working together while making news paper aricles saying you are going to war, and in CarKings war declaration he said you and turkey so you were in fact hiding your alliance breaking the rules with turkey using a share map with someone he is allies with the attacking them with zero tension also bending the rules,

its all in the history books,

go back and look, thats what we follow as a guide, the story, and you RP non of it.

South Africa told me he has an alliance called SOTO (South Oceania Treaty Organization).

There are no rules for fake NP.

We did it to trick your alliance.

No rules as well for working together behind?

You hide your alliance, don't lie.

We never knew about SOTO, not even Tanke announced it publicly.

Said to me that he's about to do it.

Not only You, Brazil, SA, and Aust... In fact, there's even more!

France, Argentina, the UK are also part of it!

How about that? I may be working behind, but I didn't break the rules.

No rules of using fake NP.

Most rules that are written by Zakkty are more technical, rather than tactical of what you can, and can't do.

We didn't do any rule breaks.

There was tension, we use Car as the Frontline political tension.

We need him to declare war, as Car is our ally... Then that means we can declare you guys without any tension in order to help our ally!

I realized the power I held, Power! The power to rule! To make the world grovel at my feet!
We will begin with a reign of terror. A few murders here and there, murders of great men, murders of little men, just to show we make no distinction.
꧋ꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴꦪꦺꦴꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴ꧈ꦤꦔꦶꦁꦎꦗꦺꦴꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴ꧉
Carking's alt.

you wort an ally do to the news paper articles you make fool, you denounced your alliance

dont matter what secret stuff you are trying to do,

its in the history books my friend

-VIP- wrote:

you wort an ally do to the news paper articles you make fool, you denounced your alliance

dont matter what secret stuff you are trying to do,

its in the history books my friend

My guy when he realises that he needs to touch grass after arguing for several hours, and making him so mad he turns into a ginger…. :S
…it’s silly time……….:3

-VIP- wrote:

Kadeko iv known you guys for 2 years, stop acting like i just met you in the last two week,
2 WHAT? Is it even 2 years? We rarely talked!!

You mean Zhukov, and others? Because Idk man.

I only know you as an acquaintance in the game before the HWW where you helped me.

That's when I know you as a friend, but other than that... We rarely talk.

I realized the power I held, Power! The power to rule! To make the world grovel at my feet!
We will begin with a reign of terror. A few murders here and there, murders of great men, murders of little men, just to show we make no distinction.
꧋ꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴꦪꦺꦴꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴ꧈ꦤꦔꦶꦁꦎꦗꦺꦴꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴ꧉
Carking's alt.

all he did was declare war, thats not tension, we were making all the articles,

like i said you guys were just board and dont care so why do you keep arguing,?

-VIP- wrote:

you wort an ally do to the news paper articles you make fool, you denounced your alliance

dont matter what secret stuff you are trying to do,

its in the history books my friend

Universal Rules:

- Obey Moderators at all times

- 1 IRL Day = 6 months

- Gold use is banned

- Blueprints are banned

- High Command features are banned

- Unit, resource, time etc. Cards are all banned

- Anything that costs money (or hasn't been gained through playing this round) is also banned

Newspaper Rules:

- You must write 1, 50 word or more, newspaper article every IRL 2 days

- When declaring War, you must write at least a 150-word newspaper article

- When writing in the newspaper, always remain in character, if you want to say anything out of character, contact a moderator about it instead, and they will handle it.

- Write in fluent English only!

- Do not swear, or use any offensive language when writing in the newspaper

- Special events such as the use of a nuclear bomb, the movement of a nation's capital and the announcement of a trade embargo, etc, will require an article

Diplomacy Rules:

- You may declare war on, trade embargo, or ally with, etc. whoever you like provided you roleplay it correctly

- You must build up tensions for 3 days before declaring war

- You must build up tensions for 7 days before declaring independence if you are a colony

- You do not need to build up tensions before going to war to help an ally, an ally ONLY counts as someone you have Shared Map with, and having Right of Way does not count as an alliance

- You will require a moderator's permission to rebel if you are a puppet state, you may also rebel if another nation(s) launches a war of liberation against your aggressor, and successfully takes your capital

- Trade Embargos will require each nation to pay resources to the other, this will be calculated by moderators ONLY, using the following formula, which is subject to be altered in the case of certain embargos, if the moderator sees fit, sanctions will be paid to a neutral moderator

- Ceasefires must last for at least 6 hours unless both sides agree to end them earlier

- You may take the following diplomatic relations that are not possible with Call of Wars current diplomatic relations:

- Guarantee another country, human or AI, independence, this means they count as your ally and you can go to war immediately to help them

- Send a country an ultimatum

- Station troops in a foreign country's territory

- Pay Tribute (resources) to another nation

- You can make any diplomatic interaction you want with whoever, as long as it is something real countries would do, during the time period.

- You may negotiate peace terms at any point in a war, as long as both sides eventually consent to the terms, unless one side has won the war.

- You may move your capital only in times of war, or if the city they are moving it to has more (by which I mean higher level) industry, recruiting office and propaganda station buildings, there is a 1-week cooldown between moving capitals.

Rules on Puppets:

- The Puppet can still control their home affairs, e.g. what they build and produce

- Master Nation controls their foreign affairs, e.g. forcing them into wars, trade embargoes, etc. The Master nation will also be able to force things upon the puppet, e.g. demanding they pay him resources, provided that it doesn't ruin the game for the puppet.

Territory Rules:

- Your territory is defined as Provinces and cities under your control, the nearest (sea) dot to your provinces (to be known as your waters), and the airspace above these locations.

- Your country may also control certain straits or canals, e.g. the Strait of Gibraltar, or the Suez or Panama Canal, and you may tax people for using these canals, the maximum tax can be calculated with the Trade Embargo Formula

- You may close Straits as long as you give a 24-hour warning in the newspaper, if you close a strait, you may sink any vessels that attempt to go through it.

Combat Rules:

- There will be 24 hours after a declaration of war, where no combat will take place, however, if both countries agree, the war can start earlier than this

- If another nation places troops inside your borders, you may immediately destroy them, having Right of Way or Shared Map with someone counts as automatic permission to place troops in one another's territory

- If another nation flies planes over your territory, you may shoot them down after giving them a 6-hour warning, in their timezone, you may half the amount of warning time they are given if they repeatedly violate your airspace, within 24 hours from the first incursion

- If another nation places ships or submarines in your waters (nearest dot from your province coasts), you may sink said ships after giving them a 6-hour warning in their timezone, you may half the amount of warning they are given if they repeatedly violate your airspace, within 24 hours from the first incursion

- A War is lost when either or both of the following are applicable:

- 75% of your military has been destroyed

- 75% of your core cities have been lost

- Naval Blockades can be initiated when at War or when diplomacy is set to Trade Embargo (during the latter they will be a 2nd payment), this happens when it is impossible to reach a country by sea without crossing the blockader's vessels, the formula for this is the same as Trade Embargos, except, multiplied by the number of coastal cities only.

Unit Rules:

- The following units will have a level cap, that will expire:

- Rocket Artillery (twice as long as usual to research)

- Self-Propelled Rocket Artillery (twice as long as usual to research)

- Railroad Guns

- Rockets (not flying bombs though) (twice as long as usual to research

- Jet Fighters (thrice (3x) as long as usual)

- Nukes (granted with a moderator's consent)

Espionage Rules:

- Intelligence spies are allowed

- Counter Intelligence spies are allowed

- Economic Sabotage spies are allowed

- Military Sabotage spies require a moderator's consent before you can use them

I realized the power I held, Power! The power to rule! To make the world grovel at my feet!
We will begin with a reign of terror. A few murders here and there, murders of great men, murders of little men, just to show we make no distinction.
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Carking's alt.

Kadeko wrote:

-VIP- wrote:

you wort an ally do to the news paper articles you make fool, you denounced your alliance

dont matter what secret stuff you are trying to do,

its in the history books my friend

Universal Rules:

- Obey Moderators at all times

- 1 IRL Day = 6 months

- Gold use is banned

- Blueprints are banned

- High Command features are banned

- Unit, resource, time etc. Cards are all banned

- Anything that costs money (or hasn't been gained through playing this round) is also banned

Newspaper Rules:

- You must write 1, 50 word or more, newspaper article every IRL 2 days

- When declaring War, you must write at least a 150-word newspaper article

- When writing in the newspaper, always remain in character, if you want to say anything out of character, contact a moderator about it instead, and they will handle it.

- Write in fluent English only!

- Do not swear, or use any offensive language when writing in the newspaper

- Special events such as the use of a nuclear bomb, the movement of a nation's capital and the announcement of a trade embargo, etc, will require an article

Diplomacy Rules:

- You may declare war on, trade embargo, or ally with, etc. whoever you like provided you roleplay it correctly

- You must build up tensions for 3 days before declaring war

- You must build up tensions for 7 days before declaring independence if you are a colony

- You do not need to build up tensions before going to war to help an ally, an ally ONLY counts as someone you have Shared Map with, and having Right of Way does not count as an alliance

- You will require a moderator's permission to rebel if you are a puppet state, you may also rebel if another nation(s) launches a war of liberation against your aggressor, and successfully takes your capital

- Trade Embargos will require each nation to pay resources to the other, this will be calculated by moderators ONLY, using the following formula, which is subject to be altered in the case of certain embargos, if the moderator sees fit, sanctions will be paid to a neutral moderator

- Ceasefires must last for at least 6 hours unless both sides agree to end them earlier

- You may take the following diplomatic relations that are not possible with Call of Wars current diplomatic relations:

- Guarantee another country, human or AI, independence, this means they count as your ally and you can go to war immediately to help them

- Send a country an ultimatum

- Station troops in a foreign country's territory

- Pay Tribute (resources) to another nation

- You can make any diplomatic interaction you want with whoever, as long as it is something real countries would do, during the time period.

- You may negotiate peace terms at any point in a war, as long as both sides eventually consent to the terms, unless one side has won the war.

- You may move your capital only in times of war, or if the city they are moving it to has more (by which I mean higher level) industry, recruiting office and propaganda station buildings, there is a 1-week cooldown between moving capitals.

Rules on Puppets:

- The Puppet can still control their home affairs, e.g. what they build and produce

- Master Nation controls their foreign affairs, e.g. forcing them into wars, trade embargoes, etc. The Master nation will also be able to force things upon the puppet, e.g. demanding they pay him resources, provided that it doesn't ruin the game for the puppet.

Territory Rules:

- Your territory is defined as Provinces and cities under your control, the nearest (sea) dot to your provinces (to be known as your waters), and the airspace above these locations.

- Your country may also control certain straits or canals, e.g. the Strait of Gibraltar, or the Suez or Panama Canal, and you may tax people for using these canals, the maximum tax can be calculated with the Trade Embargo Formula

- You may close Straits as long as you give a 24-hour warning in the newspaper, if you close a strait, you may sink any vessels that attempt to go through it.

Combat Rules:

- There will be 24 hours after a declaration of war, where no combat will take place, however, if both countries agree, the war can start earlier than this

- If another nation places troops inside your borders, you may immediately destroy them, having Right of Way or Shared Map with someone counts as automatic permission to place troops in one another's territory

- If another nation flies planes over your territory, you may shoot them down after giving them a 6-hour warning, in their timezone, you may half the amount of warning time they are given if they repeatedly violate your airspace, within 24 hours from the first incursion

- If another nation places ships or submarines in your waters (nearest dot from your province coasts), you may sink said ships after giving them a 6-hour warning in their timezone, you may half the amount of warning they are given if they repeatedly violate your airspace, within 24 hours from the first incursion

- A War is lost when either or both of the following are applicable:

- 75% of your military has been destroyed

- 75% of your core cities have been lost

- Naval Blockades can be initiated when at War or when diplomacy is set to Trade Embargo (during the latter they will be a 2nd payment), this happens when it is impossible to reach a country by sea without crossing the blockader's vessels, the formula for this is the same as Trade Embargos, except, multiplied by the number of coastal cities only.

Unit Rules:

- The following units will have a level cap, that will expire:

- Rocket Artillery (twice as long as usual to research)

- Self-Propelled Rocket Artillery (twice as long as usual to research)

- Railroad Guns

- Rockets (not flying bombs though) (twice as long as usual to research

- Jet Fighters (thrice (3x) as long as usual)

- Nukes (granted with a moderator's consent)

Espionage Rules:

- Intelligence spies are allowed

- Counter Intelligence spies are allowed

- Economic Sabotage spies are allowed

- Military Sabotage spies require a moderator's consent before you can use them

Again, Car is our ally.

No rules here saying that alliance need to be declared iirc.

As long as they're your ally, you can help them without any tension needed.

I realized the power I held, Power! The power to rule! To make the world grovel at my feet!
We will begin with a reign of terror. A few murders here and there, murders of great men, murders of little men, just to show we make no distinction.
꧋ꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴꦪꦺꦴꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴ꧈ꦤꦔꦶꦁꦎꦗꦺꦴꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴ꧉
Carking's alt.

-VIP- wrote:

all he did was declare war, thats not tension, we were making all the articles,

like i said you guys were just board and dont care so why do you keep arguing,?

Oh no! The poor little guy is crying! I think it’s time for nap time for you young fella
…it’s silly time……….:3

iv known you guys since befor your alliance first formed, we all know each other from global chat,

we even once played a round here me and CarKing were racing with you joining joining or staying with you alliance as the prize, we were just joking, but im not sure how you dont remember but i expuct you to remember anything about the RP or the rules??

-VIP- wrote:

iv known you guys since befor your alliance first formed, we all know each other from global chat,

we even once played a round here me and CarKing were racing with you joining joining or staying with you alliance as the prize, we were just joking, but im not sure how you dont remember but i expuct you to remember anything about the RP or the rules??

You’re nap time is now, I know you’re angry pal…but it’s nap time for you.
…it’s silly time……….:3

-VIP- wrote:

iv known you guys since befor your alliance first formed, we all know each other from global chat,

we even once played a round here me and CarKing were racing with you joining joining or staying with you alliance as the prize, we were just joking, but im not sure how you dont remember but i expuct you to remember anything about the RP or the rules??

I remembered that... I still do.

I know you, but then when you got upset in the RP, and accusing me as rule breaking when in the Rules it's shown that it's not a rule break!

You treat us like a stranger! That's even worse... I know you, but then when you just had to be like this... What do you expect me to do?

What do you even want? I'm trying to find a way to spare you, but I got tired...

I really am trying to be patient, but mankind has flaws in every each of them.

And then you throw us with personal insults saying that Fox, and Car is a troublemaker?

Sure, both of them can be very annoying at some points, but when you fake sh*t up like that, saying that this thread was a ploy? What were you thinking.

I mean, in what sane mind, VIP? We haven't thrown you with any personal insults, and now you bring our alliance here?

Fox wasn't in the RP, so don't bad-mouth him in the RP, that's not fair.

You only threw insults with the RP members, that's more logical... But now, you as far as insulting our alliance, saying it's a troublemaker??

Look at you! Why are you even bringing this thing in this thread? At least in the final post, that's more reasonable.

You just made a chaos in the forum, and raging like a kid... Idk what I'm supposed to say, or even do.

We're playing the RP fair, and square.

Sure, I understand if you're angry... But taking it this far? C'mon... You're better than that.

I realized the power I held, Power! The power to rule! To make the world grovel at my feet!
We will begin with a reign of terror. A few murders here and there, murders of great men, murders of little men, just to show we make no distinction.
꧋ꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴꦪꦺꦴꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴ꧈ꦤꦔꦶꦁꦎꦗꦺꦴꦔꦺꦴꦤꦺꦴ꧉
Carking's alt.

ABSOLUTELY CRUSHED!

…it’s silly time……….:3

haha no, i only made one post about it, then iv replyed to anyone that has talk to me about it,

so stop replying to me then i wouldnt have to respond, thats how the world works

then i said something in this one cuz of the irony of what Car said,

haha and i said that about your alliance cuz its spot on, you are trouble makers, but obviously in a joking way cuz iv always liked you guys,

but Car just said he faked everything the last few days befor that so i was letting him know what its like,

saying he was faking everything else like the fox beef,

just keeping the same energy that you guys have been doing the last few weeks,

its funny you dish it but cant take it when it comes back to you

-VIP- wrote:

haha no, i only made one post about it, then iv replyed to anyone that has talk to me about it,

so stop replying to me then i wouldnt have to respond, thats how the world works

then i said something in this one cuz of the irony of what Car said,

haha and i said that about your alliance cuz its spot on, you are trouble makers, but obviously in a joking way cuz iv always liked you guys,

but Car just said he faked everything the last few days befor that so i was letting him know what its like,

saying he was faking everything else like the fox beef,

just keeping the same energy that you guys have been doing the last few weeks,

its funny you dish it but cant take it when it comes back to you

Cry me a river ;( Oh no poor baby! Life just sucks for you! It’s like the world is just horrible for you! Oh no!
…it’s silly time……….:3

Russ, you said dont talk to you ever again, that means you dont talk to me ether dumb dumb,

but you never remember your words so they dont mean anything

-VIP- wrote:

Russ, you said dont talk to you ever again, that means you dont talk to me ether dumb dumb,

but you never remember your words so they dont mean anything

If gaslighting was a quote it would be that
…it’s silly time……….:3

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