When they go to court, guilty or notGreatbigHippo wrote:
At what point would you separate criminals who are allowed to vote and criminals who are?

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When they go to court, guilty or notGreatbigHippo wrote:
At what point would you separate criminals who are allowed to vote and criminals who are?

Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into labor
So if somebody gets a speeding ticket they can't vote? Sounds good.Quasi-duck wrote:
When they go to court, guilty or notGreatbigHippo wrote:
At what point would you separate criminals who are allowed to vote and criminals who are?
It's a joke.GreatbigHippo wrote:
So if somebody gets a speeding ticket they can't vote? Sounds good.
A sarcastic tone is difficult to hear in writing.Quasi-duck wrote:
It's a joke.GreatbigHippo wrote:
So if somebody gets a speeding ticket they can't vote? Sounds good.
No it isn't.GreatbigHippo wrote:
A sarcastic tone is difficult to hear in writing.
Quasi-duck wrote:
No it isn't.GreatbigHippo wrote:
A sarcastic tone is difficult to hear in writing.

Hippo has a point lmao.
Oh yeah, truer words never spoken.Not A Communist wrote:
Hippo has a point lmao.
Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into labor

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So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.oceanhawk wrote:
Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into labor
Its okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and torture Women and Children? And ruin our great nation?Quasi-duck wrote:
So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.oceanhawk wrote:
Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into labor
No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardly

He's talking about Vietnam, so I highly doubt the Vietcong would have invaded the US. In fact, US soldiers probably raped and murdered many Vietnamese people.oceanhawk wrote:
Its okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and torture Women and Children? And ruin our great nation?Quasi-duck wrote:
So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.oceanhawk wrote:
Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into laborNo surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardly
And the north never did that to civilians in the south?Lord Asher wrote:
He's talking about Vietnam, so I highly doubt the Vietcong would have invaded the US. In fact, US soldiers probably raped and murdered many Vietnamese people.oceanhawk wrote:
Its okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and torture Women and Children? And ruin our great nation?No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardlyQuasi-duck wrote:
So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.oceanhawk wrote:
Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into labor

You're avoiding the subject matter. Whether the North did it isn't the issue, it's the fact you are justifying slavery through conscription by pretending the Vietnam War was necessary to defend America. The fact remains, US soldiers went against Rules of Engagement consistently and lowered themselves to the level of the enemy. Why should a US citizen be forced to die for a cause which should be volunteer-only?oceanhawk wrote:
And the north never did that to civilians in the south?Lord Asher wrote:
He's talking about Vietnam, so I highly doubt the Vietcong would have invaded the US. In fact, US soldiers probably raped and murdered many Vietnamese people.oceanhawk wrote:
Its okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and torture Women and Children? And ruin our great nation?No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardlyQuasi-duck wrote:
So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.oceanhawk wrote:
Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into labor
Conscription is necessary in some matters- massive wars which threaten independance and rights- but to be used in an intervention is quite an illogical and rash decision. Imagine the outcry if a draft was imposed during Afghanistan, it would be completely unecessary.
A more strategic, logical-which would waste less resources- tactic is to defend the key points and use small, counter-guerrila special ops to improve effeciency and not waste billions.
I never said I supported conscription, I have mixed views about it, and sending conscripted troops to Vietnam, is and was a mistake because they dont have the skills/ thought procsess as a volunteer soldier..Lord Asher wrote:
You're avoiding the subject matter. Whether the North did it isn't the issue, it's the fact you are justifying slavery through conscription by pretending the Vietnam War was necessary to defend America. The fact remains, US soldiers went against Rules of Engagement consistently and lowered themselves to the level of the enemy. Why should a US citizen be forced to die for a cause which should be volunteer-only?oceanhawk wrote:
And the north never did that to civilians in the south?Lord Asher wrote:
He's talking about Vietnam, so I highly doubt the Vietcong would have invaded the US. In fact, US soldiers probably raped and murdered many Vietnamese people.oceanhawk wrote:
Its okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and torture Women and Children? And ruin our great nation?No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardlyQuasi-duck wrote:
So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.oceanhawk wrote:
Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into laborConscription is necessary in some matters- massive wars which threaten independance and rights- but to be used in an intervention is quite an illogical and rash decision. Imagine the outcry if a draft was imposed during Afghanistan, it would be completely unecessary.
A more strategic, logical-which would waste less resources- tactic is to defend the key points and use small, counter-guerrila special ops to improve effeciency and not waste billions.
My origninal argument, was against the communists forcing people into government work, like forced labor etc, I am a hardcore conservative capitalits, and believe in freedom, so really you should be pointing that lethal round, at the commies...
And it wasnt just that A communist Vietnam would invade America, the spread of communism was a major threat, to humanity its self. More and more people would go hungry and starve, like today, the commie nations, Cuba and North Korea, the people there are starving!
A doctor there, makes 40$ a month, a private taxi driver makes 60$ a day!

You're backtracking on yourself.oceanhawk wrote:
I never said I supported conscription, I have mixed views about it, and sending conscripted troops to Vietnam, is and was a mistake because they dont have the skills/ thought procsess as a volunteer soldier..Lord Asher wrote:
You're avoiding the subject matter. Whether the North did it isn't the issue, it's the fact you are justifying slavery through conscription by pretending the Vietnam War was necessary to defend America. The fact remains, US soldiers went against Rules of Engagement consistently and lowered themselves to the level of the enemy. Why should a US citizen be forced to die for a cause which should be volunteer-only?Conscription is necessary in some matters- massive wars which threaten independance and rights- but to be used in an intervention is quite an illogical and rash decision. Imagine the outcry if a draft was imposed during Afghanistan, it would be completely unecessary.oceanhawk wrote:
And the north never did that to civilians in the south?Lord Asher wrote:
He's talking about Vietnam, so I highly doubt the Vietcong would have invaded the US. In fact, US soldiers probably raped and murdered many Vietnamese people.oceanhawk wrote:
Its okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and torture Women and Children? And ruin our great nation?No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardlyQuasi-duck wrote:
So it is alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko.oceanhawk wrote:
Did u miss the part where I said, par military service?Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, ever heard of "Conscription in the Vietnam War"?oceanhawk wrote:
the government were gonna force him into laborA more strategic, logical-which would waste less resources- tactic is to defend the key points and use small, counter-guerrila special ops to improve effeciency and not waste billions.
My origninal argument, was against the communists forcing people into government work, like forced labor etc, I am a hardcore conservative capitalits, and believe in freedom, so really you should be pointing that lethal round, at the commies...
And it wasnt just that A communist Vietnam would invade America, the spread of communism was a major threat, to humanity its self. More and more people would go hungry and starve, like today, the commie nations, Cuba and North Korea, the people there are starving!
A doctor there, makes 40$ a month, a private taxi driver makes 60$ a day!
From your words, you heavily support conscription because you find refusing it 'cowardly', I quote from your earlier replies. By referencing your earlier argument, you are once again changing the subject matter. We were debating your clear support of conscription in the Vietnam War.
I quote, Quasi-duck: "So it's alright to force someone to die in a war that they don't know why they are fighting, and don't want to be there? Sicko," on the matter of conscription in the Vietnam War.
You reply, "It's okay to not fight, and let the enemy come and kill and tortue Women and Children? And ruin our great nation? No surrender and stand down, is sickening and cowardly." From that snippet, it's logical to assume you wholeheartedly support Vietnam War conscription because that's where the conversation was headed. If this was meant in a different context, I apologise, but that's was it seems like.
To clarify, I'm not a fan of Capitalism or Communism, they have their benefits and flaws, comparable to humanity itself. But, you refer to America as a great nation, which made me cringe. Every country has it's proud moments and... no so proud moments.
I thought this was friendly banter.
Yes, lets do friendly banter. *Banters*
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