General political census

Okay, well just out of a matter of interest. I am doing a poll, on the more common and main political ideologies.

Really, I think it would be interesting to see,what are the main polictcal stances here. Im going by a more basic spectrum. so vote!

Obviously we are going to all end up debating here, and so be it. Bring it on you leftest!

I am leaving our centralist views, just so you pick a wing..

and again, this is very broad, but just out of interest.

If you are an early voter, post an estimate below as well :)


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

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GreatbigHippo wrote:

FilipALFA wrote:

Sir McSquiggles wrote:

I know Im a bit late... But what if the Swedes are coming here because that is what society placed upon them! That it should be the "norm" to go to American schools. ^^
Maybe the Swedes are comming because of this video: .I don't remember who showed me this, but I think that it was @oceanhawk. NOt sure though.
Well, time for a coup in Sweden!
Yes it was me..

Dam socialists..

Sweden isnt the perfect society you think it is..

same for communism and socialism


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

@oceanhawk do you propose we go back to the Industrial Revolution where anyone who isn't minted lives in slums or a run-down farm?

Quasi-duck wrote:

@oceanhawk do you propose we go back to the Industrial Revolution where anyone who isn't minted lives in slums or a run-down farm?
do you think China lifted itself out of poverty, into an economic powerhouse which it is to day

due to labor laws, and minimum wage?

do you think there was so much foreign investment, due to its socialist ideas?

what do you think is the reason?

The minimun wage, is one of the worst ideas ever..

It does not a single bit of good


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

But embracing terrorists has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic concept.

Forum Gang Premier
you are a balls

GreatbigHippo wrote:

But embracing terrorists has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is an economic concept.
that welfare idea is however..

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

do you think China lifted itself out of poverty, into an economic powerhouse which it is to day

due to labor laws, and minimum wage?

do you think there was so much foreign investment, due to its socialist ideas?

what do you think is the reason?

Screw talking about the PRC, I haven't studied them in detail yet. Look at Britain during the Industrial Revolution. You know what pulled them out of the hell hole they were getting into? Labour laws and minimum wage.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. I'm looking at you, @oceanhawk. Labour laws and a minimum wage are key.

oceanhawk wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

@oceanhawk do you propose we go back to the Industrial Revolution where anyone who isn't minted lives in slums or a run-down farm?
do you think China lifted itself out of poverty, into an economic powerhouse which it is to daydue to labor laws, and minimum wage?

do you think there was so much foreign investment, due to its socialist ideas?

what do you think is the reason?

The minimun wage, is one of the worst ideas ever..

It does not a single bit of good

How do you think life is for the average person without any labor laws or minimum wage? Do you think they are wealthy? Are they treated well? Or are they just worthless drones, one step above a slave?
Forum Gang Premier
you are a balls

GreatbigHippo wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

@oceanhawk do you propose we go back to the Industrial Revolution where anyone who isn't minted lives in slums or a run-down farm?
do you think China lifted itself out of poverty, into an economic powerhouse which it is to daydue to labor laws, and minimum wage?

do you think there was so much foreign investment, due to its socialist ideas?

what do you think is the reason?

The minimun wage, is one of the worst ideas ever..

It does not a single bit of good

How do you think life is for the average person without any labor laws or minimum wage? Do you think they are wealthy? Are they treated well? Or are they just worthless drones, one step above a slave?
lot worse.. none of them would have had jobs

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

lot worse.. none of them would have had jobs
Oh, so you're a fan of slave labour then?

I do not agree with these options.


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Ocean, this is what you're suggesing has caused in the past. Imagine what it would cause now?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Creek_War

Forum Gang Premier
you are a balls

Apparently the majority of the Forum is conservative.


"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

lot worse.. none of them would have had jobs
Oh, so you're a fan of slave labour then?
How did you bring slaves in to this?

so lets propose, we up the min wage to 17 euros an hour..

People will lose their jobs

People will work less hours

Younger workers, with little or no experience will lose their chances of getting one of these jobs

Machines will be a better option, that workers

Prices in stores will go up

More and more people will now go onto the social welfare

which is being paid by employers.. who would hire the people on welfare, but cant cos they cant pay that much..

so I run a small business.. I want to hire a worker called, josh and josh wants me to hire him, he has no skills, or experience, but wants to start off. But the job I have for him is worth 15 euros, rather than 17 euros

The job its self is only worth 7euro, this may be stacking the pineapples on the shelves or sweeping etc

but now the government says I can only pay him 17euro..

so he doesnt get the job, and I then gotta to give my money to the tax man, to go to his pocket, and guess what

he doesnt want that, cos he wont be able to start at the bottom, on the low wage he wont get the skills to progress, or get the chance at more work

and I am still giving money to him, and he isnt benefiting society!

Biggest load of SH15 I have ever heard from leftest like you

just say the first thing that pops into your mind, without thinking it through

it does no good for anybody, and just hurts everybody..

Abolish the Min wage = unemployment drops..


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

so lets propose, we up the min wage to 23 euros an hour..
That is stupid. 8 quid an hour does the job, it is around this now. Don't be so ridiculous.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

so lets propose, we up the min wage to 23 euros an hour..
That is stupid. 8 quid an hour does the job, it is around this now. Don't be so ridiculous.
Respond to the rest of the stuff as well..

o wait, you are reading it, and noticing how Im right..


If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

Respond to the rest of the stuff as well..

o wait, you are reading it, and noticing how Im right..

No. It is was based on a ridiculously high minimum wage. So not worth the effort.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Respond to the rest of the stuff as well..

o wait, you are reading it, and noticing how Im right..

No. It is was based on a ridiculously high minimum wage. So not worth the effort.
okay I changed the figures

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

okay I changed the figures
That is nearly double the current Irish minimum wage.....

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

okay I changed the figures
That is nearly double the current Irish minimum wage.....
just go on it.. the figures are not of importance..

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye

oceanhawk wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

okay I changed the figures
That is nearly double the current Irish minimum wage.....
just go on it.. the figures are not of importance..
Oh yeah, 'cause your post is a load of rubbish. By your logic we should all be jobless and hungry.

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