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oceanhawk wrote:

Yea, BTW I dont think the F-18 would need to be very close, when they dropping their JDAM's from 50k feet in the air.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Yea, BTW I dont think the F-18 would need to be very close, when they dropping their JDAM's from 50k feet in the air.

Can't see anything with the smog, even with guided munitions. It'll be a lucky dip.

Sure they can even switch to IR

Correction @Quasi-duck

I made a mistake

what that Chinese general said, was that the smog could stop american guided missiles, . This is also the general, who said the Americans would never make it to Baghdad in 2003...... Hours later, American troops were marching into Hussians's palace.

And he also said that General Gadaffi would never be found, shortly before the video went viral..

Communism doesn't work and always fails because of human nature and greed, just like in capitalistic societies the top 1% end up controlling everything no matter what economic system. It's a sad reality, but in a emotionless world, communism is by far the best system, as everyone would be equal. However, we don't live in that world, we live in a world full of greedy men and power chasing maniacs. Capitalism is obviously the superior system in this world we currently live in, but in a utopian society, communism would be the ideology they'd follow.

That said, modern capitalism isn't actual capitalism. Even the most capitalistic societies have adopted a lot of socialistic policies that blur the line between the two.

oceanhawk wrote:

Like jezz, so many Hispanic people, are not joining Conservative and Libertarian ideals, because they have flippin witnessed the failures of the Socialist and Communist ideals, and they have suffered. And to then have people hear, talk about how great communism is, it makes me sick. Go to North Korea or Venezuela and then come back to us

Jacey521 wrote:

Communism doesn't work and always fails because of human nature and greed, just like in capitalistic societies the top 1% end up controlling everything no matter what economic system. It's a sad reality, but in a emotionless world, communism is by far the best system, as everyone would be equal. However, we don't live in that world, we live in a world full of greedy men and power chasing maniacs. Capitalism is obviously the superior system in this world we currently live in, but in a utopian society, communism would be the ideology they'd follow.

That said, modern capitalism isn't actual capitalism. Even the most capitalistic societies have adopted a lot of socialistic policies that blur the line between the two.

oceanhawk wrote:

Correction @Quasi-duck

I made a mistake

what that Chinese general said, was that the smog could stop american guided missiles, . This is also the general, who said the Americans would never make it to Baghdad in 2003...... Hours later, American troops were marching into Hussians's palace.

And he also said that General Gadaffi would never be found, shortly before the video went viral..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

Jacey521 wrote:

Communism doesn't work and always fails because of human nature and greed, just like in capitalistic societies the top 1% end up controlling everything no matter what economic system. It's a sad reality, but in a emotionless world, communism is by far the best system, as everyone would be equal. However, we don't live in that world, we live in a world full of greedy men and power chasing maniacs. Capitalism is obviously the superior system in this world we currently live in, but in a utopian society, communism would be the ideology they'd follow.

That said, modern capitalism isn't actual capitalism. Even the most capitalistic societies have adopted a lot of socialistic policies that blur the line between the two.

Jacey521 wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Like jezz, so many Hispanic people, are not joining Conservative and Libertarian ideals, because they have flippin witnessed the failures of the Socialist and Communist ideals, and they have suffered. And to then have people hear, talk about how great communism is, it makes me sick. Go to North Korea or Venezuela and then come back to us

No, not at all. Most hispanic people have been affected by the CIA's coups and assassinations of their beloved leaders. They have witnessed the failures of socialist/communist ideals because they've witnessed the CIA MAKE THEM FAIL before they even happened. There is a reason the U.S. is the 2nd most hated country in the world. (behind Israel)

Pablo22510 wrote:

I had a conversation with an old man who'd lived through the Cold War, who'd lived through 9/11, who'd lived through the growing Muslim fanaticism and hate towards the USA. I asked him, more or less, "Why is the USA hated so much? It gives out billions in foreign aid to help poor countries." He answered "The USA isn't hated despite the billions of dollars in foreign aid, it's hated because of them." The USA is hated because of its power.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

I had a conversation with an old man who'd lived through the Cold War, who'd lived through 9/11, who'd lived through the growing Muslim fanaticism and hate towards the USA. I asked him, more or less, "Why is the USA hated so much? It gives out billions in foreign aid to help poor countries." He answered "The USA isn't hated despite the billions of dollars in foreign aid, it's hated because of them." The USA is hated because of its power.

Or maybe it's because they put crackpot dictators in power so communism doesn't rise, then attack that nation when they get too strong and destabilize a region. Or maybe because they fund and train Mujahedin's to fight the Soviets, then come crying when the same Mujahedin's attack them.

Pablo22510 wrote:

No. Take the mujaheddins, for example. They bloody well helped them to remain independent. But because they had the power to help them, the same mujaheddin who sould have been grateful attacked them.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

No. Take the mujaheddins, for example. They bloody well helped them to remain independent. But because they had the power to help them, the same mujaheddin who sould have been grateful attacked them.

Why did they attack them then?

Pablo22510 wrote:

Jealousy.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Jealousy.

Source? Sounds a bit far fetched.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Jealousy.

Source? Sounds a bit far fetched.

Well, it's not actually a statement of fact. I'm just saying they're jealous of America's power.

In Osama Bin Laden's November 2002 "Letter to America",^[5][6] he explicitly stated that al-Qaeda's motives for their attacks include: Western support for attacking Muslims in Somalia, supporting Russian atrocities against Muslims in Chechnya, supporting the Indian oppression against Muslims in Kashmir, the Jewish aggression against Muslims in Lebanon, the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia,^[6][7][8] US support of Israel,^[9][10] and sanctions against Iraq.^[11]

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Correction @Quasi-duck

I made a mistake

what that Chinese general said, was that the smog could stop american guided missiles, . This is also the general, who said the Americans would never make it to Baghdad in 2003...... Hours later, American troops were marching into Hussians's palace.

And he also said that General Gadaffi would never be found, shortly before the video went viral..

Do you mean Baghdad Bob?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Saeed_al-Sahhaf

Jacey521 wrote:

Communism doesn't work and always fails because of human nature and greed, just like in capitalistic societies the top 1% end up controlling everything no matter what economic system. It's a sad reality, but in a emotionless world, communism is by far the best system, as everyone would be equal. However, we don't live in that world, we live in a world full of greedy men and power chasing maniacs. Capitalism is obviously the superior system in this world we currently live in, but in a utopian society, communism would be the ideology they'd follow.

That said, modern capitalism isn't actual capitalism. Even the most capitalistic societies have adopted a lot of socialistic policies that blur the line between the two.

Fairness = Freedom

Freedom = Fairness

you tell me right now, how communism is fair. Communism runs on government greed. Do you really think, everybody id equal in North Korea? Screw that

Everybody is equal in an Anarchist society. Everybody is Equal in a libertarian society. And everybody is equal in a conservative society

oceanhawk wrote:

No, he is Chinese

oceanhawk wrote:

Do you really think, everybody id equal in North Korea? Screw that

oceanhawk wrote:

Everybody is equal in an Anarchist society.

oceanhawk wrote:

And everybody is equal in a conservative society