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Who do you think was the greatest general of all time? I, personally, think that it was Hannibal of Carthage. He led his army through the Alps to fight Rome, and out-maneuvered a larger Roman army for 15 years, winning lots of victories. I would also say that Lee and Napoleon were great generals.

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25 May 2021, 13:58 (edited)

Patton was also a great general.

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25 May 2021, 16:02

BrutusTrump wrote:

Who do you think was the greatest general of all time? I, personally, think that it was Hannibal of Carthage. He led his army through the Alps to fight Rome, and out-maneuvered a larger Roman army for 15 years, winning lots of victories. I would also say that Lee and Napoleon were great generals.
Erich Von Manstein was the greatest general of World War 2. During the battle of France the French army was not only larger and better trained. It had better and more tanks, plus it had extensive fortifications. However, Manstein was the mastermind behind the defeat of the French and British armies. The Germans originally just planned to use the the strategy that they used in World War I. He advocated for the breakthrough at the Ardennes, which ultimately allowed for a German victory within a few weeks. During the battle of Sevastopol he successfully captured the Soviet stronghold of Seavstopol. Seavstopol had extensive fortifications and was able to hold off German troops for many months. Manstein was then sent to take command of the situation. The Soviets tried to take back the Sevastopol by launching an amphibious operation at Kerch involving 200,000 soldiers. However, he was able to repel the attack and take over 100,000 soviets prisoners. The axis soldiers had a serious shortage of manpower and equipment by that time. Manstein knew that he would have to end the siege quickly before he ran out of supplies. He decided to launch a surprise amphibious assault on the city and the city began to collapse. After the disaster at Stalingrad, the Soviet forces advanced into Ukraine, threatening the encirclement of a large part of Army Group South. Manstein was able to save the situation by counterattacking the exposed Soviet flanks with Panzer divisions and retaking Kharkov. The Soviets began to crumble under his forces, soon Manstein had forced the Soviets into the Kursk Salient. Almost encircling them, but Hitler ordered them to wait. This decision would prove fatal and result in the defeat at Kursk. Manstein conducted an orderly withdraw to the Panther Wotan line along the Deniper river, he inflicted heavy casualties on the Soviet Union when retreating. He mastered both tactical and strategical forms of command. Unlike some commanders like Rommel who were purely focused on tactical strategy.
25 May 2021, 16:53

I think Erich Ludendorff was one of the greatest Generals of the first world war. He had the central role in the German victories at Liège and Tannenberg. Not only that but he and Hindenburg made that empire in the east that fought until 1918. He also was the one who knocked on the doors of the Belgian forts at Liège and "single handedly won the battle of Liège."

25 May 2021, 17:21

BrutusTrump wrote:

Who do you think was the greatest general of all time? I, personally, think that it was Hannibal of Carthage. He led his army through the Alps to fight Rome, and out-maneuvered a larger Roman army for 15 years, winning lots of victories. I would also say that Lee and Napoleon were great generals.
In game, it would have to be me. Jk jk. But irl, i gotta go with Ulysses S. Grant from the American Civil War. He (and his protege Sherman) singlehandedly led the Union to victory in the war, especially against Robert E. Lee, who was so great, he literally got everyone he faced fired. But he lost that war, and losing isn't great. So I gotta go with Grant.
25 May 2021, 19:07

I think that Napoleon is overrated. I understand that he is very good, but the fact of the matter is, he lost, TWICE. That is why the greatest NFL dynasty of all time is not the early 90s Buffalo Bills.

25 May 2021, 19:32

Napoleon Bonaparte, Gaius Julius, Flavius Belisarius, Carl XII of Sweden, Yi Sun-Shin, Alexander Suvorov, Timur(the Lame).

25 May 2021, 22:02

Erwin Rommel

25 May 2021, 23:07

Tre wrote:

Erwin Rommel
Erwin Rommel is the most overrated German general in my opinion. He lacked skilling strategical command. He was only good at tactical battles.
26 May 2021, 00:13

vietgong2005 wrote:

He was only good at tactical battles.
That is the reason i like him
26 May 2021, 01:01 (edited)

Sun Tzu would be the most wholesome general

but if we need someone more familiar then

Nero Claudius Drusus Germanicus (Germania Campaign) or Lucius Licinius Lucullus (Eastern Kingdoms campaign) would do.

26 May 2021, 01:02

I know more about Sun Tzu than the other two generals. They don’t have to be familiar. You just have to justify why they are the greatest.

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26 May 2021, 01:15

And for overrated generals:

In America: Ulysses S. Grant. HE WAS NORMAL. The rest of the US generals were just really really bad. See this

Amongst Military history geeks: Napoleon. His main advantage was being a good politician. He could get his men to go ANYWHERE with him.

Amongst WW2 Germany geeks: Rommel. Too much of a maverick. He couldn't follow the simple order of "don't run out of fuel"

Give me more people and I'll add on to this list!

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26 May 2021, 04:39

Druzus wrote:

Sun Tzu would be the most wholesome general

but if we need someone more familiar then

Nero Claudius Drusus Germanicus (Germania) or Lucius Licinius Lucullus (Eastern Kingdoms) would do.

Sun Tzu was more of a military theorist than a general.
26 May 2021, 06:34

Mathematically and legitimately Napoleon..

Also whowh is right grant is overrated everyone else was bad he was normal

Rommel is not overrated. Maybe not the best but due to his maverick tactics he was good

Manstein is great

Guderian is alr

Hannibal.... he was trash... he is overrated he just was trash won a few times cuz of luck and animals then was trashed

Lee was good

Zhukov was alr

Patton was sh*t

Montgomery was actual garbage

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26 May 2021, 08:28

vietcong2005 wrote:

Druzus wrote:

Sun Tzu would be the most wholesome general

but if we need someone more familiar then

Nero Claudius Drusus Germanicus (Germania) or Lucius Licinius Lucullus (Eastern Kingdoms) would do.

Sun Tzu was more of a military theorist than a general.

I believe it would be good to read more about him and Wu kingdom. He was serving in military in Wu kingdom and took art in wars that small kingdom was fighting. Ideas he is describing fit perfect to context of very small country fighting much bigger opponents.

Lately Chinese used that asymmetrical warfare to steal American military blueprints instead of wast ign their own effort to create them.

They also used it against air-carrier groups. Instead of producing their own fleet of carriers or multiple air bases they went for 1200 killer-missiles . That makes 100 missiles per every American carrier.

Two others- because they were not focused on the war of attrition but instead they had long term strategic goal and every year they closed to it with series of short term tactical targets.

I am surprised no one mentioned Ginghis Khan and his generals, Philip and Alexander from Macedon or Ashoka.Even Cyrus the Great or some Assyrian kings would make a list. I guess Mongolian and Roman generals would be in top when it comes to conquering and operating in the enemy territory.

Maybe even we can add conquistadors like Pizarro and Cortes - to have no reinforcements, no support, very faint chance of retreat and with couple hundred man attack huge empires... you need to have balls and some planning skills for that.

26 May 2021, 10:44 (edited)

Cao Cao was brilliant. But in WW2 Manstein was pretty swag too. And E.Lee. Mathematically though, Napoleon was greatest.

26 May 2021, 11:49

Mister Expresident Donny Drumb is the greatest whatever. This discussion is fake. Cow hehe was right, not covfefe one.

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