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On this day 43 years ago, the glorious heart of Josip Broz Tito stopped beating.

“A battle fought without determination is a battle lost.” - Josip Broz Tito

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Why is everyone suddenly claiming they are of Yugoslavian heritage? 3 people have done so in the past week.

“A battle fought without determination is a battle lost.” - Josip Broz Tito

Domanoj Broj wrote:

And the Serbs did get "revenge", in the Yugoslav wars/Bosnian genocide in the 1990s.
LOL

Ha ha - that's a pretty good one.

“A battle fought without determination is a battle lost.” - Josip Broz Tito

Brando Dilla wrote:

Why is everyone suddenly claiming they are of Yugoslavian heritage? 3 people have done so in the past week.
You’re from Yugoslavia, he’s from Yugoslavia, IM FROM YUGOSLAVIA! Are there any other Yugoslavs I should know about? *meow*

CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

Carking the 6th wrote:

Brando Dilla wrote:

Why is everyone suddenly claiming they are of Yugoslavian heritage? 3 people have done so in the past week.
You’re from Yugoslavia, he’s from Yugoslavia, IM FROM YUGOSLAVIA! Are there any other Yugoslavs I should know about? *meow*
You get a Yugoslav, You get a Yugoslav, Everyone gets a Yugoslav!
“A battle fought without determination is a battle lost.” - Josip Broz Tito

We're not going to convince each other about which band of bandits was worse than the other: communists, chetniks, ustashe.

Some things are indisputable. Croatia ran concentration camps that systematically destroyed entire populations. No amount of misdirection or whataboutism can change that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia

Nothing comes remotely close to that. Not then, not now. Except Nazi Germany. They were better at wiping people out, because Germans are just more efficient at everything they do, good or bad.

z00mz00m wrote:

We're not going to convince each other about which band of bandits was worse than the other: communists, chetniks, ustashe.

Some things are indisputable. Croatia ran concentration camps that systematically destroyed entire populations. No amount of misdirection or whataboutism can change that.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust_in_the_Independent_State_of_Croatia

Nothing comes remotely close to that. Not then, not now. Except Nazi Germany. They were better at wiping people out, because Germans are just more efficient at everything they do, good or bad.

isn’t that just whataboutism? Like this doesn’t make Yugoslavia any better just because the Croats also committed some crimes. No state in that time had any moral high ground to be honest.

Also Croatian crimes don’t even come close to Japanese, Chinese, Russian, British and even American crimes in scale.. I’m not trying to compare crimes here but stating that only the Nazis of were capable of more is plain wrong…


CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

You know I feel like I heard a fly but I don’t think I heard anything…


CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

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The President

oh lord, what have i done....

The President

From inavukic.com:

Croatian people wanted independence for centuries, just as they had it until the twelfth century but fate was not on their side – others wanted their beautiful land. In late 1980′s the will to break free from Yugoslavia which suffocated freedom and self determination through harsh communist party rule finally bore the desired fruit.

In June 1991 Croatia declared its independence; soon after the aggressive war against Croatia broke out. The struggle of the Croatian people for self-determination was a just one. But I fear genuine justice has not been served as there have been, and there still exist, international covert and overt moves to equate victims with aggressors continue in attempts to change history. Truth often becomes obscured and lost and that is why I have chosen to write this blog, to concentrate on actual events and issues about Croatia – wishing it a bright and freedom-loving future.

It certainly was not easy to come out of the war that was fought on two fronts:

1. On the military front the world’s public has seen the indiscriminate bombardment of Croatian cities, towns and villages from land, sea and air; the destruction of civilian targets including homes, schools, hospitals, churches, factories and cultural monuments; the blockading and destruction of roads, bridges and ports; the blockading of power, water, food and medical supplies. What hasn’t been shown on our television sets is the forced clearing and evacuation of towns and villages, followed by looting, torture, rape and murder carried out by the Serbian forces, who were initially backed by the federal Yugoslav army that was largely constituted by Serb nationals; the transportation of multiple hundreds of innocent Croatian civilians from Croatia into concentration camps Serbia (Begejci, Stajicevo, Sremska Mitrovica... from October 1991, and later (1992) transferred into Serb-held camps in Bosnia and Herzegovina (Omarska, Keratern, Manjaca, Trnopolje).

2. The second front was the war of political propaganda centred on: misinformation about the rights of minorities in Croatia; portrayal of the Croatian people as Ustasha or Fascists; the representation of the Croatian defence forces as illegal paramilitary units; the representation of the Croatian and Slovenian republics as unreasonable secessionists who are unwilling to negotiate; a regurgitation of distorted facts about World War II.

Indeed Croatia had an absolute right to defend itself and this is often forgotten if not often denied it.

Idk Claudio, what have you done? Seems quite suspicious


CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

Carking the 6th wrote:

Idk Claudio, what have you done? Seems quite suspicious
Cavoglave, the song.
The President

Brando Dilla wrote:

Domanoj Broj wrote:

And the Serbs did get "revenge", in the Yugoslav wars/Bosnian genocide in the 1990s.
LOL

Ha ha - that's a pretty good one.

What do you mean

Claudio NVKP wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Idk Claudio, what have you done? Seems quite suspicious
Cavoglave, the song.

Me:Write me fan-fiction about the Soviet Union

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CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

The happy ending.

The President

Me:now make it anime

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CarKing the 6th of the Abrahamic Caliphate

Domanoj Broj wrote:

Brando Dilla wrote:

Domanoj Broj wrote:

And the Serbs did get "revenge", in the Yugoslav wars/Bosnian genocide in the 1990s.
LOLHa ha - that's a pretty good one.
What do you mean
I mean that the Serb/Yugoslav government is not responsible for the crimes in Bosnia. They were planned and executed by the Republika Srpska, an only partly-recognized state. Meanwhile, between 1941-1945 the Ustaše government was recognized as the sole Croatian nation.
“A battle fought without determination is a battle lost.” - Josip Broz Tito

Domanoj Broj wrote:

...
Again, that Ina Vukic site is highly biased. That entire paragraph overtly exaggerates the crimes committed by the Serbs/Yugoslavs in the ‘90s, while mentioning nothing about the Ustaše crimes.
“A battle fought without determination is a battle lost.” - Josip Broz Tito

It's like the Proud Boys version of American history :)

Funny and sad at the same time. Because they take control of school boards, then they start teaching history to kids.

You can’t exaggerate war crimes! Stop trying to make one side look better! Everyone in those wars did awful and squalid things but you can’t just go around saying that one was worse than the other. Best we can do is acknowledge what happened and try to move humanity forward. Corrupt politicians in the Balkans have held the region back for far too long, using divisions as an excuse to gain power. Fact is that thousands died and every faction did something wrong. There was no good guy, every faction with real power was the bad guy, who committed crimes and ethnic cleansing. It’s time that we accept the history for what it was, and try to make sure such a thing never happens again.


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