Medieval Warfare

the Brits were hardly "alone" there's always the US and even France supporting her from the sidelines.

Still wrong, they have been along, in the Middle Ages against the Vikings and stuff, the Romans too but they weren't exactly united when fighting the Romans.

Butter Ball Bill wrote:

comrade dave wrote:

at ww2 it was just the Brits themselves for a while,

That is so wrong! They had convoys coming in from America, so that is economic support and people coming from everywhere to fly and fight for them. Then in the Pacific against the Japs, they had the Australians and all their colony members with them too! People always seem to think that UK was along for a while in WWII but it never was and they always forget about the Brits in the Pacific, people always think it started with Japan hitting the US and ignore the wars with China, Russia, UK and basically everyone else that had a presence in Asia.

V1nd1cat0r wrote:

the Brits were hardly "alone" there's always the US and even France supporting her from the sidelines.

See here bill "Germany conquered or controlled much of continental Europe, and formed the Axis alliance with Italy and Japan. Following the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, Germany and the Soviet Union partitioned and annexed territories of their European neighbours, Poland, Finland, Romania and the Baltic states. The United Kingdom and the British Commonwealth were the only Allied forces continuing the fight against the European Axis powers, with campaigns in North Africa and the Horn of Africa as well as the long-running Battle of the Atlantic."

I know that...

Britain receive support from the US during WW2, they participated in the war by sending material to England, it was not until Pearl Harbor did the US participated in the war by sending troops in large numbers, as a part of the western allies.

one thing you must realize the US will never be idle nor neutral, there just that powerful as a nation.

V1nd1cat0r wrote:

Britain receive support from the US during WW2, they participated in the war by sending material to England, it was not until Pearl Harbor did the US participated in the war by sending troops in large numbers, as a part of the western allies.

one thing you must realize the US will never be idle nor neutral, there just that powerful as a nation.

They weren't alone Dave, they had the Aussies and stuff with them in Asia.

There was never a time the British commonwealth fight by themselfes againts the axis, aside the numerous British colonies, US gave economic aid and France military aid but that's before there fall. Also Britain was fighting againts Germany, the Italians enter the war after the fall of France.

It is also wrong to think the British commonwealth fought alone, by alone means by themselfes, but there not alone other than US aid, they have their colonies which is numerous. Saying the British commonwealth fighting "alone" is somewhat have a double meaning: there fighting ONE country that is supported both economic and military by MANY allies and colonies. so by alone its both "correct" but also "wrong".

You guys still aren't acknowledging Australia or the Brits war with Japan in Asia.

The Brits against the Japs in Asia was not so tough as Europe, but there was some heavy fighting in India and whereabouts. Churchill himself described the fall of Singapore as "the worst disaster and largest capitulation in British history." However, Britain did fight alone in Europe. France fell on the 25th of June 1940. From then on to 21st June 1941, Britain was completely alone. The U.S. gave aid in terms of supplies, yes, but they didn't give planes for the RAF fighting the Battle of Britain. They sent ships to protect the British convoys from Canada, yes, but that didn't stop the U-Boats. And Britain had to give stuff back! The Lend-Lease program meant Britain had to give territories to the U.S., so it wasn't as if the U.S. was giving stuff to Britain for free. Only the insistence of Roosevelt got the Lend-Lease program started. The U.S. public opinion was deeply pacifist. And, to top it off, on 10th May 1940 (forgot to mention this), Italy declares war on Britain. The Italians deeply outnumbered the Brits in Egypt, but they still failed. The British counterattack, take Cyrenaica, but then Rommel comes, beats the British at Gazala, and it's full retreat from then until El Alamein. And the British were fighting alone. Same in Greece. The Greek army managed to repel the Italians with a much worse-equipped army, but then the Germans come along and take it all, and Crete too. The Brits fought alone.

Australians were at Crete actually. Tobruk too.

I know. At Tobruk they didn't play a major role because the British High Command knew they were going to lose the city anyway, but they weren't going to simply abandon it. At Crete, as I posted in another topic, their role was very important. As you all know, Crete was attacked by the German paratroopers of General Student. No amphibious operation involved. This meant that the paras would not get reinforcements unless they captured an airfield. An ANZAC force commanded by a Colonel from New Zealand was in charge of an airfield. After repelling a first wave of paras, he misinterpreted orders and abandoned the airfield, which was soon captured by German paratroopers. Reinforcements poured in. A single misinterpretation of orders made Crete fall.

Australians also played an important part in Papua New-Guinea, one of their colonies. After repelling an initial Jap assault, they had to retreat and fell back to within 50 kilometres of the capital, Port Stanley. Then, U.S. reinforcements arrived, and they took the Jap positions and forced them out of the island.

Pablo22510 wrote:

the paras would get reinforcements unless they captured an airfield

Pablo22510 wrote:

The Brits fought alone.

He said in Europe Bill, however Poles and Czechs and lots of other defeated european nationalities fought with the RAF during the battle of Britain

If he was on about Europe, why was that quote just after a little section on Africa and the Med?

I can't find it, please show me

Pablo22510 wrote:

And, to top it off, on 10th May 1940 (forgot to mention this), Italy declares war on Britain. The Italians deeply outnumbered the Brits in Egypt, but they still failed. The British counterattack, take Cyrenaica, but then Rommel comes, beats the British at Gazala, and it's full retreat from then until El Alamein. And the British were fighting alone. Same in Greece. The Greek army managed to repel the Italians with a much worse-equipped army, but then the Germans come along and take it all, and Crete too. The Brits fought alone.

Butter Ball Bill wrote:

You just proved yourself wrong.