I found this meme, and I felt obliged to show it to you Rommel fans:
The past is a foreign country.
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2 Apr 2016, 18:21
Kehsct wrote:
A: The Japanese tanks were never used in an amphibious landing.
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard and a complete denial of facts. From Wikipedia: According to Ralph Zumbro in his book 'Tank Aces',several Ka-Mi were destroyed by Army LVT-1s off the coast of Leyte during history's only Amphibious tank vs. Amphibious tank action; this is doubtful however, as most Ka Mi tanks were destroyed after they landed
Kehsct wrote:
The Sherman tank was an American tank.
No shiz Sherlock, what made it float was British and that is what counts. The Brits could've made any of their own tanks float if they liked.
3 Apr 2016, 00:25
Quasi-duck wrote:
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard and a complete denial of facts. From Wikipedia: According to Ralph Zumbro in his book 'Tank Aces',several Ka-Mi were destroyed by Army LVT-1s off the coast of Leyte during history's only Amphibious tank vs. Amphibious tank action; this is doubtful however, as most Ka Mi tanks were destroyed after they landed
I meant besides that. Plus, that wasn't anything near a full-scale invasion like D-Day.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -Winston Churchill Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching. -George S. Patton
3 Apr 2016, 12:35
Kehsct wrote:
I meant besides that.
They were still used in an invasion.....
Kehsct wrote:
Plus, that wasn't anything near a full-scale invasion like D-Day.
D-Day is the biggest amphibious landing in history, of course it was nowhere near it, nothing is.
3 Apr 2016, 22:34
Quasi-duck wrote:
D-Day is the biggest amphibious landing in history, of course it was nowhere near it, nothing is.
Sicily. Probably a few ancient invasions I haven't heard about. Plus, D-Day wasn't that much bigger than Sicily in the initial landings, but the follow-up was massive. In the millions.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -Winston Churchill Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching. -George S. Patton
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius. "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
4 Apr 2016, 16:18
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
D-Day is the biggest amphibious landing in history, of course it was nowhere near it, nothing is.
Sicily. Probably a few ancient invasions I haven't heard about. Plus, D-Day wasn't that much bigger than Sicily in the initial landings, but the follow-up was massive. In the millions.
Almost complete bull. Not many ancient invasion were sea-borne and of the size of Normandy or Sicily. I will give it to you though that Sicily was big. Anyway, the tanks still participated in a sea-borne invasion, whether you like it or not.
4 Apr 2016, 16:39
Quasi-duck wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
D-Day is the biggest amphibious landing in history, of course it was nowhere near it, nothing is.
Sicily. Probably a few ancient invasions I haven't heard about. Plus, D-Day wasn't that much bigger than Sicily in the initial landings, but the follow-up was massive. In the millions.
Almost complete bull. Not many ancient invasion were sea-borne and of the size of Normandy or Sicily. I will give it to you though that Sicily was big. Anyway, the tanks still participated in a sea-borne invasion, whether you like it or not.
Sicily campaign opened a new front in Europe. The Sicily campaign was simple, but encountered strong German resistance.
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius. "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
4 Apr 2016, 23:01
Quasi-duck wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
D-Day is the biggest amphibious landing in history, of course it was nowhere near it, nothing is.
Sicily. Probably a few ancient invasions I haven't heard about. Plus, D-Day wasn't that much bigger than Sicily in the initial landings, but the follow-up was massive. In the millions.
Almost complete bull. Not many ancient invasion were sea-borne and of the size of Normandy or Sicily. I will give it to you though that Sicily was big. Anyway, the tanks still participated in a sea-borne invasion, whether you like it or not.
I said probably a few ancient invasions. I'm not an early civilization historian.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -Winston Churchill Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching. -George S. Patton
4 Apr 2016, 23:03
Kehsct wrote:
I said probably a few ancient invasions.
Hang on a mo, I may have caught myself out here.....
4 Apr 2016, 23:03
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
D-Day is the biggest amphibious landing in history, of course it was nowhere near it, nothing is.
Sicily. Probably a few ancient invasions I haven't heard about. Plus, D-Day wasn't that much bigger than Sicily in the initial landings, but the follow-up was massive. In the millions.
Almost complete bull. Not many ancient invasion were sea-borne and of the size of Normandy or Sicily. I will give it to you though that Sicily was big. Anyway, the tanks still participated in a sea-borne invasion, whether you like it or not.
I said probably a few ancient invasions. I'm not an early civilization historian.
Sicily has been invaded countless times throughout history.
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius. "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
4 Apr 2016, 23:04
Maximilien wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
D-Day is the biggest amphibious landing in history, of course it was nowhere near it, nothing is.
Sicily. Probably a few ancient invasions I haven't heard about. Plus, D-Day wasn't that much bigger than Sicily in the initial landings, but the follow-up was massive. In the millions.
Almost complete bull. Not many ancient invasion were sea-borne and of the size of Normandy or Sicily. I will give it to you though that Sicily was big. Anyway, the tanks still participated in a sea-borne invasion, whether you like it or not.
I said probably a few ancient invasions. I'm not an early civilization historian.
Sicily has been invaded countless times throughout history.
That I did know.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -Winston Churchill Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching. -George S. Patton
4 Apr 2016, 23:06
I'm not sure if there was proper amphibious landings (I doubt it) but there was a helluva lot of naval forces present at the Second Persian Invasion of Greece. I do know though that there was naval battles going on though (tell me if you want some info on how they fought).
4 Apr 2016, 23:15
Quasi-duck wrote:
I'm not sure if there was proper amphibious landings (I doubt it) but there was a helluva lot of naval forces present at the Second Persian Invasion of Greece. I do know though that there was naval battles going on though (tell me if you want some info on how they fought).
Sure, you can tell me. I do know that the Greeks had a large navy. They needed it.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -Winston Churchill Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching. -George S. Patton
4 Apr 2016, 23:16
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
I'm not sure if there was proper amphibious landings (I doubt it) but there was a helluva lot of naval forces present at the Second Persian Invasion of Greece. I do know though that there was naval battles going on though (tell me if you want some info on how they fought).
Sure, you can tell me. I do know that the Greeks had a large navy. They needed it.
The Athenians possessed one of the largest naval forces in his time!
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius. "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
4 Apr 2016, 23:18
Maximilien wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
I'm not sure if there was proper amphibious landings (I doubt it) but there was a helluva lot of naval forces present at the Second Persian Invasion of Greece. I do know though that there was naval battles going on though (tell me if you want some info on how they fought).
Sure, you can tell me. I do know that the Greeks had a large navy. They needed it.
The Athenians possessed one of the largest naval forces in his time!
Exactly.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -Winston Churchill Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching. -George S. Patton
4 Apr 2016, 23:34
Kehsct wrote:
Sure, you can tell me.
It is really cool. They had armoured ships that were propelled by oars and sails. It had a very strong ram at the front for, uh, ramming other ships. The deck was relatively flat and would have swordsmen and archers on deck. When in combat, the aim was to break the enemies oars to render them helpless (I don't think they used the sail in battle).
To do this, you would gain speed and drag the hull of your ship along the enemies hull while they had their oars out but, just before you hit their ship, you would pull your oars in so you would not lose yours. You could also fire arrows at the enemy. After the enemy had lost enough oars, they would be stuck. When this happened, you would ram the enemy ship head and start shooting anyone on deck with arrows while your swordsmen rushed across the ships to fight on board the enemy ship. Your goal was to slaughter all enemies on board and/or capture the slaves on board too as well as the enemy to get more oarsmen.
It was very cool! You wouldn't here much about melee combat in naval warfare nowadays.
4 Apr 2016, 23:36
Quasi-duck wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Sure, you can tell me.
It is really cool. They had armoured ships that were propelled by oars and sails. It had a very strong ram at the front for, uh, ramming other ships. The deck was relatively flat and would have swordsmen and archers on deck. When in combat, the aim was to break the enemies oars to render them helpless (I don't think they used the sail in battle).
To do this, you would gain speed and drag the hull of your ship along the enemies hull while they had their oars out but, just before you hit their ship, you would pull your oars in so you would not lose yours. You could also fire arrows at the enemy. After the enemy had lost enough oars, they would be stuck. When this happened, you would ram the enemy ship head and start shooting anyone on deck with arrows while your swordsmen rushed across the ships to fight on board the enemy ship. Your goal was to slaughter all enemies on board and/or capture the slaves on board too as well as the enemy to get more oarsmen.
It was very cool! You wouldn't here much about melee combat in naval warfare nowadays.
Interesting!
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius. "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
4 Apr 2016, 23:36
Quasi-duck wrote:
Kehsct wrote:
Sure, you can tell me.
It is really cool. They had armoured ships that were propelled by oars and sails. It had a very strong ram at the front for, uh, ramming other ships. The deck was relatively flat and would have swordsmen and archers on deck. When in combat, the aim was to break the enemies oars to render them helpless (I don't think they used the sail in battle).
To do this, you would gain speed and drag the hull of your ship along the enemies hull while they had their oars out but, just before you hit their ship, you would pull your oars in so you would not lose yours. You could also fire arrows at the enemy. After the enemy had lost enough oars, they would be stuck. When this happened, you would ram the enemy ship head and start shooting anyone on deck with arrows while your swordsmen rushed across the ships to fight on board the enemy ship. Your goal was to slaughter all enemies on board and/or capture the slaves on board too as well as the enemy to get more oarsmen.
It was very cool! You wouldn't here much about melee combat in naval warfare nowadays.
Yet another example of Greek superiority in everything at the time. Plus, melee combat doesn't happen in modern warfare due to the range of the battles which can take place over dozens of miles.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -Winston Churchill Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching. -George S. Patton
The Marine Navy won countless times to the Turks in the 19th century!
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius. "Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
The Marine Navy won countless times to the Turks in the 19th century!
Wait, which country had the Marine Navy?
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -Winston Churchill Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching. -George S. Patton