Tesla relies on the govt. because if it didn't have access to the main electrical grid - owned by the govt. - then people couldn't carge their Tesla cars and Tesla wouldn't sell shit. Btw, those power plants Tesla uses for their electricity use fossil fuels. Most of them, anyway.
Mock Presidential Race pt. 2
Hello! Back again with another mock presidential race!
This one will share a lot of things with the first version however, this one will be a race for the Prime Minister of The United Kingdom!
Due to the rather recent resigning of David Cameron, I thought it would be a good country. Many of you suggested we should do a race for a different country! So here we go!
Same rules apply as the last race, (reference thread "Mock Presidential Race" in "off topic")
However you will be running for Prime Minister of the United Kingdom!
The following political parties in the race are the following,
PartyPolitical PositionLeader
| Conservative and Unionist Party | Centre-right | David Cameron |
| Labour Party | Centre-left | Jeremy Corbyn |
| Scottish National Party | Centre-left | Nicola Sturgeon |
| Liberal Democrats | Centre | Tim Farron |
Have fun! Remember candidates can respectfully debate each other!
Poll for party representatives will end July 15th!
After that, the winners of each party will move on to the PM race!
Everybody can vote, and your vote can be changed at anytime! Just remember to use that feature responsibly!
I'm your host Vex03,
- Let's get RIOOOGHHTT into the debates!

#Trump2016
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deadly, that awsome point I was trying to make, is that the market will innovate like it has with tesla..Pablo22510 wrote:
Tesla relies on the govt. because if it didn't have access to the main electrical grid - owned by the govt. - then people couldn't carge their Tesla cars and Tesla wouldn't sell shit. Btw, those power plants Tesla uses for their electricity use fossil fuels. Most of them, anyway.
And BTW, it is actually possible for the electrical grid to operate in the private economy 

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
You're missing the point. It needs the national power grid to operate.oceanhawk wrote:
is that the market will innovate like it has with tesla..
@Pablo22510 the US uses a fair amount of renewable and nuclear power.
So every company in Ireland, and the US for that matter, only work because they rely on the government for protection from from crime?Quasi-duck wrote:
You're missing the point. It needs the national power grid to operate.oceanhawk wrote:
is that the market will innovate like it has with tesla..@Pablo22510 the US uses a fair amount of renewable and nuclear power.

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
Basically, yeah. I mean, you said yourself before anarchy won't work. No govt. means no police or army, which means we're basically in the Middle Ages with guns, which would not be good for anyone... except your local warlord....oceanhawk wrote:
So every company in Ireland, and the US for that matter, only work because they rely on the government for protection from from crime?
Last I heard, that happens in some places of Afghanistan and such. You get a group of guys with AK-pattern rifles, and run amok, raping and pillaging as they wish.
Anarchism is awful, but that will only happen in this day and age, if there is a huge government...Quasi-duck wrote:
Basically, yeah. I mean, you said yourself before anarchy won't work. No govt. means no police or army, which means we're basically in the Middle Ages with guns, which would not be good for anyone... except your local warlord....oceanhawk wrote:
So every company in Ireland, and the US for that matter, only work because they rely on the government for protection from from crime?Last I heard, that happens in some places of Afghanistan and such. You get a group of guys with AK-pattern rifles, and run amok, raping and pillaging as they wish.
seriously, a huge government like in a commie of socialist world, they also have the power to take stuff away from the people, and they can do that..
But in realty, there are basic pieces of infastructure that are taking for granted, regardless of left or center right..
Security and Physical infastructure being so..
Also you can say that BMW rely on the government because their cars they sell need roads..
but really, a private market can always make roads or build electricity ducks, if the case may be

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
But they don't, and it won't matter if Jimmy Jihad comes along, tells them they are working on the Sabbath or something, and pops 'em all.oceanhawk wrote:
but really, a private market can always make roads or build electricity ducks, if the case may be
Jimmy can already pop them, he wont care any more or less if they owned by the government or not.....Quasi-duck wrote:
But they don't, and it won't matter if Jimmy Jihad comes along, tells them they are working on the Sabbath or something, and pops 'em all.oceanhawk wrote:
but really, a private market can always make roads or build electricity ducks, if the case may be
And they do, cos in the end the public sector sucks, have u ever been to a public Emergency room? I arrived at 11pm didnt get seen by a doctor till 6am

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
You're saying terrorists are killing CEO's of large companies?oceanhawk wrote:
Jimmy can already pop them, he wont care any more or less if they owned by the government or not.....
Over population and under funding is the problem with that. Especially since lots of trained doctors are going abroad, I think nurses are too.oceanhawk wrote:
And they do, cos in the end the public sector sucks, have u ever been to a public Emergency room? I arrived at 11pm didnt get seen by a doctor till 6am
Yeah - the US. Take Spain for example. We have ten times more sun than Germany, yet somehow manage to have ten times less solar panels.Quasi-duck wrote:
@Pablo22510 the US uses a fair amount of renewable and nuclear power.
*cough* buy solar panels *cough*Pablo22510 wrote:
Tesla relies on the govt. because if it didn't have access to the main electrical grid - owned by the govt. - then people couldn't carge their Tesla cars and Tesla wouldn't sell shit. Btw, those power plants Tesla uses for their electricity use fossil fuels. Most of them, anyway.
I don't know about Spain, but in the US the electric grid is privately owned by several companies.
you are a balls
Yet it is still knocked out by tornadoes and hurricanes, typical private companies, doing everything on the cheap.GreatbigHippo wrote:
but in the US the electric grid is privately owned by several companies.
So have your own solar panel or wind turbine!Quasi-duck wrote:
Yet it is still knocked out by tornadoes and hurricanes, typical private companies, doing everything on the cheap.GreatbigHippo wrote:
but in the US the electric grid is privately owned by several companies.
you are a balls
Yep, and ask the govt. for funds. You can do that in Ireland, not sure about the US.GreatbigHippo wrote:
So have your own solar panel or wind turbine!
You used to in some places. Not any more.Quasi-duck wrote:
Yep, and ask the govt. for funds. You can do that in Ireland, not sure about the US.GreatbigHippo wrote:
So have your own solar panel or wind turbine!
you are a balls
Pity. How cheap are they over there (solar panels and windmills)?GreatbigHippo wrote:
You used to in some places. Not any more.
A couple thousand $, I think, though you can sell it to the electric companies and make a profit in the long term. ( the electric companies are legally required to buy solar power)Quasi-duck wrote:
Pity. How cheap are they over there (solar panels and windmills)?GreatbigHippo wrote:
You used to in some places. Not any more.
you are a balls
Ah, thanks.GreatbigHippo wrote:
A couple thousand $, I think, though you can sell it to the electric companies and make a profit in the long term. ( the electric companies are legally required to buy solar power)
This depends on how much solar stuff you get, of course.
you are a balls
Obviously, and if you're in Alaska or Nevada.
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