Yes, which is what I'm proposing.GreatbigHippo wrote:
*cough* buy solar panels *cough*I don't know about Spain, but in the US the electric grid is privately owned by several companies.
Same as in Spain.
Hello! Back again with another mock presidential race!
This one will share a lot of things with the first version however, this one will be a race for the Prime Minister of The United Kingdom!
Due to the rather recent resigning of David Cameron, I thought it would be a good country. Many of you suggested we should do a race for a different country! So here we go!
Same rules apply as the last race, (reference thread "Mock Presidential Race" in "off topic")
However you will be running for Prime Minister of the United Kingdom!
The following political parties in the race are the following,
PartyPolitical PositionLeader
| Conservative and Unionist Party | Centre-right | David Cameron |
| Labour Party | Centre-left | Jeremy Corbyn |
| Scottish National Party | Centre-left | Nicola Sturgeon |
| Liberal Democrats | Centre | Tim Farron |
Have fun! Remember candidates can respectfully debate each other!
Poll for party representatives will end July 15th!
After that, the winners of each party will move on to the PM race!
Everybody can vote, and your vote can be changed at anytime! Just remember to use that feature responsibly!
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Yes, which is what I'm proposing.GreatbigHippo wrote:
*cough* buy solar panels *cough*I don't know about Spain, but in the US the electric grid is privately owned by several companies.
Same as in Spain.
no, think I was pretty clear with what I said..Quasi-duck wrote:
You're saying terrorists are killing CEO's of large companies?oceanhawk wrote:
Jimmy can already pop them, he wont care any more or less if they owned by the government or not.....Over population and under funding is the problem with that. Especially since lots of trained doctors are going abroad, I think nurses are too.oceanhawk wrote:
And they do, cos in the end the public sector sucks, have u ever been to a public Emergency room? I arrived at 11pm didnt get seen by a doctor till 6am
Do You know why they go abroad? Cos public health systems pay isnt as good compared to the private sector. And the equpiment the government provides is awful, they make awful picks when it comes to medical tech etc..
Funding isnt the only issue, it is the inncentives.. they are different in the private sector compared to the public sector, lazy a$$ ways..
More money at the hospitals completely ineffectual, inefficient, is controlled by vested interests, is poorly managed, and simply does not work.
More money will help a bit, but really will only make it as good as public heatlhcare can go, which isnt really that far.
Micheal o laery, would be perfect to turn the hospitals around, need a person who can manage things efficently, and with a short budget.. but in the End, Public Healthcare will only be so good, Private healthcare is better
Although, my usually extreme Right views kinda vary a bit on healthcare, but private healthcare is the best, no doubt..
The real question is, how can we make healthcare affordable?

Don't complain if you don't know how to fix it, Shkreli.oceanhawk wrote:
The real question is, how can we make healthcare affordable?
I do know, but was more of an open chat...Quasi-duck wrote:
Don't complain if you don't know how to fix it, Shkreli.oceanhawk wrote:
The real question is, how can we make healthcare affordable?
easy to make it more affordable,
Deregulation is a must, things like the FDA need to be abolished like now..
And Tax cuts 
And Free Trade 
And dont forget, improving the general publics income, like the great Thatcher did in the 80s, yes the wealth gap grew, but who gives sh1t, incomes of the poorest were up, that is the most important thing

WTF?oceanhawk wrote:
Deregulation is a must, things like the FDA need to be abolished like now..
Maybe their intentions originally were good, but they are again like most government agencies and programs... unable to do any goodQuasi-duck wrote:
WTF?oceanhawk wrote:
Deregulation is a must, things like the FDA need to be abolished like now..

Oh, so you're a fan of lobotomy then?oceanhawk wrote:
Maybe their intentions originally were good, but they are again like most government agencies and programs... unable to do any good
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I'll leave you with a short Obama speech that answers exactly what you just said.oceanhawk wrote:
Deregulation is a must, things like the FDA need to be abolished like now..
Minute 7:19
so agencies that prevents companies from using DDT and lead cans should go away? I don't like the FDA, but it should NOT go away.oceanhawk wrote:
Maybe their intentions originally were good, but they are again like most government agencies and programs... unable to do any goodQuasi-duck wrote:
WTF?oceanhawk wrote:
Deregulation is a must, things like the FDA need to be abolished like now..
I think my post said it betterGreatbigHippo wrote:
so agencies that prevents companies from using DDT and lead cans should go away? I don't like the FDA, but it should NOT go away.
Still, mine wasn't very technical either.Quasi-duck wrote:
Oh, so you're a fan of lobotomy then?oceanhawk wrote:
Maybe their intentions originally were good, but they are again like most government agencies and programs... unable to do any good
Pablo22510 wrote:
That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. I'll leave you with a short Obama speech that answers exactly what you just said.oceanhawk wrote:
Deregulation is a must, things like the FDA need to be abolished like now..Minute 7:19
If you go to your doctor tomorrow, would your doctor give you a drug that will harm you?GreatbigHippo wrote:
so agencies that prevents companies from using DDT and lead cans should go away? I don't like the FDA, but it should NOT go away.oceanhawk wrote:
Maybe their intentions originally were good, but they are again like most government agencies and programs... unable to do any goodQuasi-duck wrote:
WTF?oceanhawk wrote:
Deregulation is a must, things like the FDA need to be abolished like now..
Of course not, A) He is your doctor and B) That would be bad for business (maybe more of the incentive for some doctors)
The FDA, will get in trouble if the let a bad drug on the market, but they wont get in trouble if they Dont let a good drug on the market,
The FDA have been slow to approve soo many drugs in the past, for example, they blocked a heart beater, that was legal in Canada and in the EU. Now guess how many lives that would have saved? it was estimated to have saved between 12-14k lives a year...
Holy crackers.
Okay, hippo, maybe not goo away, but get a kick up the ass and take away huge amounts of its power...
As for pablo, the point is that the FDA is doing more harm that good.
There are soo many life saving drugs, that the FDA is not allowing on the market, that are Legal in the EU
Reason being, the FDA dont want to get in trouble, so they go ban and ban and ban
Also, my hatred of the FDA is their drug side, havent looked into their Food part, but I dont think I would have an issue with that.. I guess I currently support their Food stuff, but their drug administration part needs to be removed and fast.. The longer we wait more people are dying

Yes, whatever, but this thread is about being the PM in the UK.oceanhawk wrote:
There are soo many life saving drugs, that the FDA is not allowing on the market, that are Legal in the EU
Quasi-duck wrote:
Yes, whatever, but this thread is about being the PM in the UK.oceanhawk wrote:
There are soo many life saving drugs, that the FDA is not allowing on the market, that are Legal in the EU
good point, make a new thread about FDA?Quasi-duck wrote:
Yes, whatever, but this thread is about being the PM in the UK.oceanhawk wrote:
There are soo many life saving drugs, that the FDA is not allowing on the market, that are Legal in the EU
I really just wanna kill that "Drug" part anyways

No, because no one agrees with you. Remove that, and you'll have things like lobotomies again. Or, worse, exorcisms.oceanhawk wrote:
good point, make a new thread about FDA?
Why are you afraid of people being healthy?Quasi-duck wrote:
No, because no one agrees with you. Remove that, and you'll have things like lobotomies again. Or, worse, exorcisms.oceanhawk wrote:
good point, make a new thread about FDA?
Like you support the FDA (The Drug side) and universal healthcare
what is your hatred of the human race?
Seriously, I cant think of any other conclusion... haha

Without that stuff, you get lobotomies. Look it up. Now.oceanhawk wrote:
Why are you afraid of people being healthy?Like you support the FDA (The Drug side) and universal healthcare
what is your hatred of the human race?
Haha, no you dontQuasi-duck wrote:
Without that stuff, you get lobotomies. Look it up. Now.oceanhawk wrote:
Why are you afraid of people being healthy?Like you support the FDA (The Drug side) and universal healthcare
what is your hatred of the human race?
Because does that do any good?
Also, the goverment doesnt know more than the private sector, espically with healthcare
do you like facts? (obviously not, you are leftest) but 25% of all Canadians, go abroad for healtchare, and there is public universal Healtchare in Canada
why? many reason, but the one that suits this argument, is the fact that the government doesnt know what treatments work best, and try do the cheapest job possible..

Look up lobotomy.
They slow down things to check they work.oceanhawk wrote:
The FDA, will get in trouble if the let a bad drug on the market, but they wont get in trouble if they Dont let a good drug on the market,The FDA have been slow to approve soo many drugs in the past, for example, they blocked a heart beater, that was legal in Canada and in the EU.
They dont, its a much easier job just to fail all of the drugs...Pablo22510 wrote:
They slow down things to check they work.oceanhawk wrote:
The FDA, will get in trouble if the let a bad drug on the market, but they wont get in trouble if they Dont let a good drug on the market,The FDA have been slow to approve soo many drugs in the past, for example, they blocked a heart beater, that was legal in Canada and in the EU.
and here is the other kicker, the FDA charges huge amount of money to get a drug "approved" many companies dont even bother getting the drug marketed and sold in the USA as a result...
Pablo, you are the FDA and quasi is the government
If you "approve a drug" and it turns out to be bad, Quasi is going to give out to you, and slap you
But if you disapprove a drug, and it turns out to be good, there is no slaps...

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