Hello! Back again with another mock presidential race!
This one will share a lot of things with the first version however, this one will be a race for the Prime Minister of The United Kingdom!
Due to the rather recent resigning of David Cameron, I thought it would be a good country. Many of you suggested we should do a race for a different country! So here we go!
Same rules apply as the last race, (reference thread "Mock Presidential Race" in "off topic")
However you will be running for Prime Minister of the United Kingdom!
The following political parties in the race are the following,
PartyPolitical PositionLeader
Conservative and Unionist Party
Centre-right
David Cameron
Labour Party
Centre-left
Jeremy Corbyn
Scottish National Party
Centre-left
Nicola Sturgeon
Liberal Democrats
Centre
Tim Farron
Have fun! Remember candidates can respectfully debate each other!
Poll for party representatives will end July 15th!
After that, the winners of each party will move on to the PM race!
Everybody can vote, and your vote can be changed at anytime! Just remember to use that feature responsibly!
I'm your host Vex03,
Let's get RIOOOGHHTT into the debates!
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24 Jul 2016, 20:41
Pablo22510 wrote:
Is capitalist.
No True Scotsman, again.
Pablo22510 wrote:
That's just stupid. But, *cough cough*, no at single Communist country followed that rule. After all, all of the fat Poliburo pigs had their dachas.
There is a difference between equal pay and corruption, as I'm sure you will agree. But let me tell you, the US is a hell of a lot more corrupt than you seem to think.
As a result of corruption, US Marines is the only arm with a modern SPAAG, and the US is going to get stuck with a plane that sucks, and has cost 1.5 trillion dollars, and counting. They wasted millions, maybe more, on the M247 Sgt. York.
The M16, well, the M16 (the original model, rather than any Alterations) was said to be self cleaning and never jammed. Cleaning kits were not issued. As a result, as well as using faulty ammunition, the gun constantly jammed and the barrel got real dirty real fast. The only way to unjam the gun was to ram a metal rod down the barrel. Not great when Charlies is breathing down your neck, both literally and metaphorically.
Pablo22510 wrote:
'Together'? Are you kidding? Do you think TrαΊ§n ΔαΊ‘i Quang has the same amount of money as everyone in the country? I really don't know how naive you can be.
I never said they had equal amounts, explicitly, just that they all had money.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Communism has never worked, at least not in the full and not how it was suposed to be carried out according to Marx, Engels and Lenin.
Loooooool No True Scotsman.
Pablo22510 wrote:
But it did. Put up with it.
It is a bit stupid calling a nation with massive student loan debts, terrible healthcare, and failing infrastructure, the best country in the world purely because other nations collapsed.
24 Jul 2016, 20:56
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Do u really think a doctor and bin man should be paid the same?
Yes, both are vital jobs. No binmen means that everyone will just throw their rubbish at the side of the road, making everything worse. More diseases, rats, etc.
oceanhawk wrote:
Hmm.... why would they want to trade with the USA? They all thought Capitalism doesnt work and Socialism is better... so why would they want to trade with USA?
So they can sell their cheap clothing lines and coffee to those pigs so everyone can have more money, together.
oceanhawk wrote:
then how come it seems to be the richest country on earth?
Luck. You probably wouldn't be saying that if Britain's empire hadn't collapsed.
Really? What about the stress and level of skill required in the job.. Dont you think that the Doctors should recieve more money, because of their harder job?
Saving lives and taking out the bins are very far apart..
No, so they can actually help society.
Look at Ireland, we werent doing that great after we got rid of the brits... Well even while as the free state. We werent doing too well... Eventually, we started becoming more Economicaly free..
Today we are ranked the 7th most Economically free nation in the world. And lets not forget what our Transatlantic trade deals have brought us..
Software companies, and a bunch of Drug Companies as well... Our Conservative ideals of low taxes, also brought google and FB here.
And look at China, ever since they opened up to free enterprise, it lifted 400million people out of poverty.
And why were they in poverty? Cos of stupid Socialism. That horrible disease,
You call it luck, I think you mean Capitalism
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
24 Jul 2016, 20:59
Quasi-duck wrote:
No True Scotsman, again.
Yeah, seems like I ain't going to convince no one around here.
Quasi-duck wrote:
There is a difference between equal pay and corruption, as I'm sure you will agree. But let me tell you, the US is a hell of a lot more corrupt than you seem to think.
As a result of corruption, US Marines is the only arm with a modern SPAAG, and the US is going to get stuck with a plane that sucks, and has cost 1.5 trillion dollars, and counting. They wasted millions, maybe more, on the M247 Sgt. York.
The M16, well, the M16 (the original model, rather than any Alterations) was said to be self cleaning and never jammed. Cleaning kits were not issued. As a result, as well as using faulty ammunition, the gun constantly jammed and the barrel got real dirty real fast. The only way to unjam the gun was to ram a metal rod down the barrel. Not great when Charlies is breathing down your neck, both literally and metaphorically.
That's why the US has the best fighting force in the world.
Btw, that's what we call an 'y tΓΊ mΓ‘s'. A frequent tactic used by politicians. Literally translated to 'and you more'. The fact that the US was slightly corrupt shouldn't take importance off the fact that the USSR was one of the most corrupt countries ever.
Quasi-duck wrote:
I never said they had equal amounts, explicitly, just that they all had money.
*cough cough*
Not Communism then.
Quasi-duck wrote:
Loooooool No True Scotsman.
Errr, why?
Quasi-duck wrote:
It is a bit stupid calling a nation with massive student loan debts, terrible healthcare, and failing infrastructure, the best country in the world purely because other nations collapsed.
What you're doing there is just portraying the bad bi of the US. It has a lot of good things. Not going to mention them, because it's not the point I want to make. The point that I want to make it that although the US may have some major problems, it is the best country in the world because there isn't anyone in its league. The fact that other nations collapsed (because they couldn't keep up economically) does make it the best nation in the world, and it is not stupid to call it that.
To paraphrase WSC, "Capitalism is the worst system, except for all the rest."
The past is a foreign country.
24 Jul 2016, 21:03
Quasi-duck wrote:
It is a bit stupid calling a nation with massive student loan debts, terrible healthcare, and failing infrastructure, the best country in the world purely because other nations collapsed.
Best healthcare in the world, sure Canadians have universal Healthcare, and 25% of them go to America and abroad for their healthcare
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
24 Jul 2016, 21:21
oceanhawk wrote:
Really? What about the stress and level of skill required in the job.. Dont you think that the Doctors should recieve more money, because of their harder job?
Saving lives and taking out the bins are very far apart.
Doctors don't really do much TBH, last time I went to the doctors, it was something my mam could've done at home.
oceanhawk wrote:
Look at Ireland, we werent doing that great after we got rid of the brits... Well even while as the free state. We werent doing too well... Eventually, we started becoming more Economicaly free..
Today we are ranked the 7th most Economically free nation in the world. And lets not forget what our Transatlantic trade deals have brought us..
Software companies, and a bunch of Drug Companies as well... Our Conservative ideals of low taxes, also brought google and FB here.
Lol we were crap when England ruled. You know for the past few years, Ireland has been in a MASSIVE recession, right? BTW the only reason those big companies are here is because Ireland is a tax haven.
oceanhawk wrote:
And look at China, ever since they opened up to free enterprise, it lifted 400million people out of poverty.
Yes, the Olympics are a magical thing. Ah, the beauty of building stadiums.
Pablo22510 wrote:
That's why the US has the best fighting force in the world.
They spend the most. China spends a lot less yet the US seems to be unable to stop them doing as they wish. Besides, conventional forces do not matter against nations that have nuclear capability. MAD and all.
Pablo22510 wrote:
The fact that the US was slightly corrupt shouldn't take importance off the fact that the USSR was one of the most corrupt countries ever.
The USSR didn't spend 1.5 trillion on a piece of crap aircraft that struggles to take off.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Not Communism then.
Yeah, corruption, damned mofo's only thinking of themselves.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Errr, why?
No True Scotsman Fallacy, look it up.
Pablo22510 wrote:
It has a lot of good things.
Like?
oceanhawk wrote:
Best healthcare in the world, sure Canadians have universal Healthcare, and 25% of them go to America and abroad for their healthcare
Lol. ~600,000 Americans go into debt/bankruptcy every year because of medical bills, and plenty die because of poor handwriting.
24 Jul 2016, 21:30
oceanhawk wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
It is a bit stupid calling a nation with massive student loan debts, terrible healthcare, and failing infrastructure, the best country in the world purely because other nations collapsed.
Best healthcare in the world, sure Canadians have universal Healthcare, and 25% of them go to America and abroad for their healthcare
Best healthcare in the world? Are you kidding me? I can tell you've never been to an American hospital.
Forum Gang Premier you are a balls
24 Jul 2016, 21:43
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oceanhawk wrote:
Really? What about the stress and level of skill required in the job.. Dont you think that the Doctors should recieve more money, because of their harder job?
Saving lives and taking out the bins are very far apart..
people that think doctors should be paid more for the work they have to do should be ashamed of themselves, they should join the army before complaining about what doctors get compared to people who ACTUALLY benefit society.
British=best. Duh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
24 Jul 2016, 21:55
Quasi-duck wrote:
They spend the most. China spends a lot less yet the US seems to be unable to stop them doing as they wish. Besides, conventional forces do not matter against nations that have nuclear capability. MAD and all.
Yeah, well, in terms of conventional warfare the US Armed Forces are the best. And second biggest nuclear power.
Quasi-duck wrote:
The USSR didn't spend 1.5 trillion on a piece of crap aircraft that struggles to take off.
Yeah, but in case you didn't notice, the USSR isn't around. Because it fell behind economically.
Quasi-duck wrote:
Yeah, corruption, damned mofo's only thinking of themselves.
Errr, no.
Quasi-duck wrote:
No True Scotsman Fallacy, look it up.
Ik what it is, you posted it.
Quasi-duck wrote:
Like?
For example, Armed Forces.
The past is a foreign country.
24 Jul 2016, 22:08
Pablo22510 wrote:
Yeah, well, in terms of conventional warfare the US Armed Forces are the best. And second biggest nuclear power.
Neither of those have really prevented the USSR and China from doing what they want. Hell, look at the Cuban Missile Crisis. The USSR may have removed it's missiles from Cuba but the US had to pull their nukes from Turkey.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Yeah, but in case you didn't notice, the USSR isn't around. Because it fell behind economically.
Lol, none of us may be around soon because the US may "fall behind" politically and kill us all for mocking his hair.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Errr, no.
So you say Vietnam is not corrupt?
Pablo22510 wrote:
k what it is, you posted it.
I know, both of you are saying "Oh that isn't a real Communist nation." It works here perfectly.
Pablo22510 wrote:
For example, Armed Forces.
And? What else? If all they can do is sabre rattle, the world is screwed...
24 Jul 2016, 22:22
comrade dave wrote:
Id
oceanhawk wrote:
Really? What about the stress and level of skill required in the job.. Dont you think that the Doctors should recieve more money, because of their harder job?
Saving lives and taking out the bins are very far apart..
people that think doctors should be paid more for the work they have to do should be ashamed of themselves, they should join the army before complaining about what doctors get compared to people who ACTUALLY benefit society.
How well do you think the world would be without doctors?
in the UK you have a bad situation with Doctors, cos they always striking, that cos they all publically owned..
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
24 Jul 2016, 22:25
oceanhawk wrote:
How well do you think the world would be without doctors?
He never said doctors were less equal, nor should we do without them. We just demand you stop treating people in vital jobs, like waste removal, as equals, which they are.
24 Jul 2016, 22:32
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
How well do you think the world would be without doctors?
He never said doctors were less equal, nor should we do without them. We just demand you stop treating people in vital jobs, like waste removal, as equals, which they are.
Never said that, I want everybody to have equal freedom. That is equality. Being equally free, to pursue whatever in life you want.
You once told me you wanted to be a marine biologist. You better hope Ireland, remains economicly free. Cos otherwise that dream is dead.
Free market, there will be a company that want to hire you. Because they know they need you. Commies would stuff you in a factory. And let you starve. Because although there is bread for everybody, the public sector... Like every thing, is as inefficient as a rock and cant make the bread, of even hand it away
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
24 Jul 2016, 22:39
Quasi-duck wrote:
oceanhawk wrote:
Really? What about the stress and level of skill required in the job.. Dont you think that the Doctors should recieve more money, because of their harder job?
Saving lives and taking out the bins are very far apart.
Doctors don't really do much TBH, last time I went to the doctors, it was something my mam could've done at home.
oceanhawk wrote:
Look at Ireland, we werent doing that great after we got rid of the brits... Well even while as the free state. We werent doing too well... Eventually, we started becoming more Economicaly free..
Today we are ranked the 7th most Economically free nation in the world. And lets not forget what our Transatlantic trade deals have brought us..
Software companies, and a bunch of Drug Companies as well... Our Conservative ideals of low taxes, also brought google and FB here.
Lol we were crap when England ruled. You know for the past few years, Ireland has been in a MASSIVE recession, right? BTW the only reason those big companies are here is because Ireland is a tax haven.
Yes, the Olympics are a magical thing. Ah, the beauty of building stadiums.
oceanhawk wrote:
Best healthcare in the world, sure Canadians have universal Healthcare, and 25% of them go to America and abroad for their healthcare
Lol. ~600,000 Americans go into debt/bankruptcy every year because of medical bills, and plenty die because of poor handwriting.
K, that sums it all up. How you can say doctors dont do much is crazy
say that to all the people dying because they dont have a doctor, to look after them..
Or all the people waiting 6MONTHS to get into surgery in Canada...
Jeepers, you are loco some times...
We in a recession, cos of the leftests... Government never should have got involvoed in Private affairs. Cos this would happen... Nope, wrong again. We are English speaking, a member of the EU. Have stable tectonic plates.
We are a neutral nation, with very few threats. We have a decent road and rail network.
Tax Haven? Call it what you want, we outta abolish corporation taxes, if we are able to bring businesses here that way
Source? for that second yolk?
America have a bad health system, best healthcare do..
Need to make it more affordable, but deregulation, and tax deductible..
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists -Friedrich von Haye
24 Jul 2016, 22:40
oceanhawk wrote:
Because although there is bread for everybody, the public sector... Like every thing, is as inefficient as a rock and cant make the bread, of even hand it away
Lol I do not hear complains about the line at the dole office.
oceanhawk wrote:
Commies would stuff you in a factory.
I have been thinking of going into one of these jobs, maybe a lumber yard? Not quite a factory but...
24 Jul 2016, 22:46
oceanhawk wrote:
Or all the people waiting 6MONTHS to get into surgery in Canada...
That is surgeons, not doctors, big difference.
oceanhawk wrote:
We in a recession, cos of the leftests
Loooooooool and the commies took the WMD's out of Iraq. Kim Jong-Un did Harambe.
oceanhawk wrote:
Source? for that second yolk?
An answer on https://www.quora.com/ damned sources are hard to retrieve on the thing. Can't remember what question it was in an answer to.
oceanhawk wrote:
Call it what you want, we outta abolish corporation taxes, if we are able to bring businesses here that way
None of your big "fancy" nations like the US do this.
oceanhawk wrote:
We have a decent road and rail network.
Motorways are often jammed, as are tunnels and dual carriageways. Chunks of the nation is missing lines, I cannot get from Cork to Louth on one train, nor line, and what were once massive holiday nations now have lost their lines, and business as a result.
oceanhawk wrote:
America have a bad health system, best healthcare do..
Those are synonymous.....
24 Jul 2016, 22:48
Quasi-duck wrote:
Neither of those have really prevented the USSR and China from doing what they want. Hell, look at the Cuban Missile Crisis. The USSR may have removed it's missiles from Cuba but the US had to pull their nukes from Turkey.
Then the USSR didn't do what it wanted.
Quasi-duck wrote:
Lol, none of us may be around soon because the US may "fall behind" politically and kill us all for mocking his hair.
Prove it.
Quasi-duck wrote:
So you say Vietnam is not corrupt?
I don't know. I'm just saying it isn't Commie.
Quasi-duck wrote:
I know, both of you are saying "Oh that isn't a real Communist nation." It works here perfectly.
Answered above.
Quasi-duck wrote:
And? What else? If all they can do is sabre rattle, the world is screwed...
Pretty low unemployment.
The past is a foreign country.
24 Jul 2016, 23:01
Pablo22510 wrote:
Then the USSR didn't do what it wanted.
Ah, but you see, neither could the US. So the US basically stopped the Soviets from doing something they never really had, while losing a strategic asset.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Prove it.
It was a "may", not a "will", and in jest. BTW do you support that P.O.S. Trumpelstiltskin?
Pablo22510 wrote:
I don't know. I'm just saying it isn't Commie.
Hence No True Scotsman.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Answered above.
Ditto.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Pretty low unemployment.
Not much to brag about, Vietnam has 2% in, what did I post, either 2012 or 2014. Ireland has 9.7%. China about 4%. Ethiopa had 5.2% in 2014.
BTW America's is about 5.5%. In other news, Spain seems to be bombing it
25 Jul 2016, 00:01
No true scotsman would vote against the Scottish national party.
Forum Gang Premier you are a balls
25 Jul 2016, 12:51
Quasi-duck wrote:
Ah, but you see, neither could the US. So the US basically stopped the Soviets from doing something they never really had, while losing a strategic asset.
Well, the Soviets did put nuclear missiles on Cuba.
Quasi-duck wrote:
It was a "may", not a "will", and in jest. BTW do you support that P.O.S. Trumpelstiltskin?
Dunno who that is.
Quasi-duck wrote:
Hence No True Scotsman.
Quasi-duck wrote:
Ditto.
Don't see how.
Quasi-duck wrote:
Not much to brag about, Vietnam has 2% in, what did I post, either 2012 or 2014. Ireland has 9.7%. China about 4%. Ethiopa had 5.2% in 2014.
BTW America's is about 5.5%. In other news, Spain seems to be bombing it
Generally, in democracies there will always be over 5% unemployment. Those are the people that don't want to work. So the US of A's unemployment is pretty much 0.
Yeah, 20,8% for Spain! But in all seriousness now, it will gradually go down.
The past is a foreign country.
25 Jul 2016, 18:56
Pablo22510 wrote:
Quasi-duck wrote:
Ah, but you see, neither could the US. So the US basically stopped the Soviets from doing something they never really had, while losing a strategic asset.
Well, the Soviets did put nuclear missiles on Cuba.
The US put missiles in turkey first. That's why the soviet union put missiles in Cuba.