Mock Presidential Race pt. 2

Diabolical wrote:

Calling the Bible fiction ... recommending to others that it should not be believed is taking away from the Word of God.

Your paragraph was too long and my life is too short. Sorry but i skiped alot of it

The top two candidates vote wise...

Oceanhawk - Conservative - 7 Votes

Diabolical - ITP - 12 Votes

Still plenty of time to sway voters

Who will be the new Prime Minister of the U.K.?

If Ocean does not win I will bomb something, somewhere.

I officially endorse ocean hawk. If Scotland must stay in the United Kingdom, then the United Kingdom should remain free, not become an oligarchal police state, which is what the ITP will make great Britain, regardless of it's intentions. Oceanhawk, while still strengthening the oligarchy, will at least keep the illusion of freedom in the UK.

GreatbigHippo wrote:

Oceanhawk, while still strengthening the oligarchy, will at least keep the illusion of freedom in the UK.

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Oceanhawk wants to turn the United Kingdom into this:

Vote ITP to prevent UK poverty.

Vote Diabolical

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Diabolical wrote:

GreatbigHippo wrote:

Oceanhawk, while still strengthening the oligarchy, will at least keep the illusion of freedom in the UK.

I offer no illusion. I offer sanctuary. Oceanhawk will offer only poverty with his "free" gifts. No one will work under Oceanhawk...no one will eat under Oceanhawk. Vote Diabolical if you want to keep eating real food. Vote Oceanhawk if you only want gruel.

"Free gifts?" These free gifts will include making people free, rather than dragooning them into your crusades, people will be free. Freedom equals fairness. Every man should have the right to choice his doctor, religion, the best school that suits his/her children. All men should be able to live freely, without the fear of religious prosecution. And shall the inquisition back diabolical, and shall that judgement day come when the we are forced into building a new Cathedral in Central London. We will have the courage to say to our enemies, There is a price we will not pay. There is a point beyond which they must not advance. We will not let the Government nor Church run our lives. We will not be forced to build a new Church, or to attack and abuse those who revolt against those who fight back against the Armageddon, which is the election of Diabolical.

If we do not stand up, if we do not sacrifice , if we do not fight against the Armageddon, We will be sentencing our Children to a 1000 years of darkness

The ideas of controlled immigration, free trade, deregulation, school choice vouchers, small government, tax cuts, welfare that helps people, and freedom from religious prosecution do not suit your tastebuds, then let that be. But the underlying fact that a 1000 years of darkness are upon us.

oceanhawk wrote:

Diabolical, will force people into church, and dragoon people into relaunching the Crusades. And if he says he will not, we know that is a lie.. cough cough campaign manager

I have made it clear that the open practice of false religion would be prohibited, this is true. That does not mean you can't worship in private as you see fit. However, that I would force anyone to go to Church is nonsense. The Christian religion specifically teaches that no one may be forced to be a Christian. Even God refuses to force the faith on anyone. However, the government can and should place restrictions on unsanctioned public worship rites. Such is the nature of a theocratic regime. This is the duty of one who is charged as defender of the faith: not to force you to be in the faith, but to keep you from influencing others against the faith.

And the accusation that I would "dragoon" people into military service is nonsense also. I would not trust a non-Christian to be armed with my superior weapons technology. You may keep your guns and knives, but my photonic blasters shall only be allowed in the hands of professed Christians because Christians don't commit war crimes nor genocide. The same cannot be said of communists and other totalitarian regimes. As for "crusades", well, who doesn't like a nice crusade once in a while. But, seriously, a crusade can only be fought by holy warriors, thus your argument is self-defeating. And unlike other superior diabolical geniuses, I'm more interested in defense than offense.

oceanhawk wrote:

"Free gifts?" These free gifts will include making people free, rather than dragooning them into your crusades, people will be free. Freedom equals fairness. Every man should have the right to choice his doctor, religion, the best school that suits his/her children. All men should be able to live freely, without the fear of religious prosecution. And shall the inquisition back diabolical, and shall that judgement day come when the we are forced into building a new Cathedral in Central London. We will have the courage to say to our enemies, There is a price we will not pay. There is a point beyond which they must not advance. We will not let the Government nor Church run our lives. We will not be forced to build a new Church, or to attack and abuse those who revolt against those who fight back against the Armageddon, which is the election of Diabolical.

I've already shown how the crusades argument is defeated. Your free gifts include unfunded government-based entitlements and redistributed personal wealth from the producers to be devoured by lazy iconoclasts who would sit around and talk bull about morals and how they hate the right wing instead of just going to work and making something of themselves.

Freedom does equal fairness; on this one point I do agree with you. Yes, every person should be able to choose their doctor, which school they'd like to send their children to, and their religion -- even a false religion. However, as stated above, in a theocratic regime, none may push non-sanctioned religious ideas onto others. Also, in my Empire, there would be no more public schools as you understand it.

Most schools would be privatized and made into small corporate entities on the local level. These would be held responsible by their communities to self-fund and maintain the education system for the most part. Simple guidelines against teaching false ideas will be enforced by roving Imperial Agents, but aside from that, those schools would have complete independence from the Imperial government. Regardless of your religion or societal mores, no government should control the education system.

While all families will be allowed to choose which privatized school to send their children to, there will be a system of Imperial Schools established where the children of legal citizens may attend to be refined and raised up to become future citizens of my Empire. Attendance would be optional and no student over the age of 12 may be forced to attend an Imperial School even if the parents wish them too. But, there will be incentives for those that do. Among these, are free education, priority placement within the Imperial government for graduates, and priority placement into the Imperial War Academy for training as an Imperial Officer.

While other positions within the Imperial government may favor Imperial School graduates, one must be an Imperial School graduate in order to be considered for employment in the Imperial Court or to the Elite Imperial Guard.

Any potential young man or woman who wishes to be married to a member of the Imperial House of Martin must be adopted into the Royal Line as a son or daughter of the Royal Family. To be considered as a candidate for admittance into the Royal Line, they must be a graduate or current student of the Imperial School system. Also, these candidates must pass a specialized education program and vetting by the Imperial Harem under the guise of the Imperial Court of Wives.

oceanhawk wrote:

If we do not stand up, if we do not sacrifice , if we do not fight against the Armageddon, We will be sentencing our Children to a 1000 years of darkness

The ideas of controlled immigration, free trade, deregulation, school choice vouchers, small government, tax cuts, welfare that helps people, and freedom from religious prosecution do not suit your tastebuds, then let that be. But the underlying fact that a 1000 years of darkness are upon us.

Actually, now you are confusing my Empire with the coming reign of Jesus Christ Himself. He will defeat the Antichrist at Armageddon and then establish His 1000 year Millennial Reign of Holiness. This will not be a time of darkness, though the tribulation brought upon the whole world by the Antichrist will be the darkest days of humanity in all of history. Thankfully, Jesus will come to rescue us from the Antichrist.

Diabolical wrote:

GreatbigHippo wrote:

Oceanhawk, while still strengthening the oligarchy, will at least keep the illusion of freedom in the UK.

I offer no illusion. I offer sanctuary. Oceanhawk will offer only poverty with his "free" gifts. No one will work under Oceanhawk...no one will eat under Oceanhawk. Vote Diabolical if you want to keep eating real food. Vote Oceanhawk if you only want gruel.

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Oceanhawk wants to turn the United Kingdom into this:

Spoiler

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Vote Diabolical

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Diabolical wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Diabolical, will force people into church, and dragoon people into relaunching the Crusades. And if he says he will not, we know that is a lie.. cough cough campaign manager

I have made it clear that the open practice of false religion would be prohibited, this is true. That does not mean you can't worship in private as you see fit. However, that I would force anyone to go to Church is nonsense. The Christian religion specifically teaches that no one may be forced to be a Christian. Even God refuses to force the faith on anyone. However, the government can and should place restrictions on unsanctioned public worship rites. Such is the nature of a theocratic regime. This is the duty of one who is charged as defender of the faith: not to force you to be in the faith, but to keep you from influencing others against the faith.

And the accusation that I would "dragoon" people into military service is nonsense also. I would not trust a non-Christian to be armed with my superior weapons technology. You may keep your guns and knives, but my photonic blasters shall only be allowed in the hands of professed Christians because Christians don't commit war crimes nor genocide. The same cannot be said of communists and other totalitarian regimes. As for "crusades", well, who doesn't like a nice crusade once in a while. But, seriously, a crusade can only be fought by holy warriors, thus your argument is self-defeating. And unlike other superior diabolical geniuses, I'm more interested in defense than offense.

And I never said you would dragoon anybody into military service, rather you would dragoon them into building huge Churches and Cathedrals all over the UK! Ahhh so you will crusade in the UK first clearing out all non Christian areas? Then go abroad? Would this have anything to do with your Protectionist tariff plans?

Diabolical wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

"Free gifts?" These free gifts will include making people free, rather than dragooning them into your crusades, people will be free. Freedom equals fairness. Every man should have the right to choice his doctor, religion, the best school that suits his/her children. All men should be able to live freely, without the fear of religious prosecution. And shall the inquisition back diabolical, and shall that judgement day come when the we are forced into building a new Cathedral in Central London. We will have the courage to say to our enemies, There is a price we will not pay. There is a point beyond which they must not advance. We will not let the Government nor Church run our lives. We will not be forced to build a new Church, or to attack and abuse those who revolt against those who fight back against the Armageddon, which is the election of Diabolical.

I've already shown how the crusades argument is defeated. Your free gifts include unfunded government-based entitlements and redistributed personal wealth from the producers to be devoured by lazy iconoclasts who would sit around and talk bull about morals and how they hate the right wing instead of just going to work and making something of themselves.

Freedom does equal fairness; on this one point I do agree with you. Yes, every person should be able to choose their doctor, which school they'd like to send their children to, and their religion -- even a false religion. However, as stated above, in a theocratic regime, none may push non-sanctioned religious ideas onto others. Also, in my Empire, there would be no more public schools as you understand it.

Most schools would be privatized and made into small corporate entities on the local level. These would be held responsible by their communities to self-fund and maintain the education system for the most part. Simple guidelines against teaching false ideas will be enforced by roving Imperial Agents, but aside from that, those schools would have complete independence from the Imperial government. Regardless of your religion or societal mores, no government should control the education system.

While all families will be allowed to choose which privatized school to send their children to, there will be a system of Imperial Schools established where the children of legal citizens may attend to be refined and raised up to become future citizens of my Empire. Attendance would be optional and no student over the age of 12 may be forced to attend an Imperial School even if the parents wish them too. But, there will be incentives for those that do. Among these, are free education, priority placement within the Imperial government for graduates, and priority placement into the Imperial War Academy for training as an Imperial Officer.

While other positions within the Imperial government may favor Imperial School graduates, one must be an Imperial School graduate in order to be considered for employment in the Imperial Court or to the Elite Imperial Guard.

Any potential young man or woman who wishes to be married to a member of the Imperial House of Martin must be adopted into the Royal Line as a son or daughter of the Royal Family. To be considered as a candidate for admittance into the Royal Line, they must be a graduate or current student of the Imperial School system. Also, these candidates must pass a specialized education program and vetting by the Imperial Harem under the guise of the Imperial Court of Wives.

Firstly, there is no such thing as free education as you have mentioned. The Education in a country should be left to the private sector, however the instant implementation of conservative practices might be hard to sloley for some people brainwashed by Karl and lenin. So we will continue to operate Public schools, although more of the budget would be focused on grants and school vouchers.. I would have curriculum set by the Department of Education, along side state exams. The public schools would still exist, and adapt a Micheal O'leary approach, and become effective. Meanwhile we will slowly push more and more people into the private schools, through the use of School vouchers etc.

Private school students still will need to sit the state exams, however the way in which the students are thought is up to the school its self, and is in the best interest of the school to deliver excellent results to continue functioning

Diabolical wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

If we do not stand up, if we do not sacrifice , if we do not fight against the Armageddon, We will be sentencing our Children to a 1000 years of darkness

The ideas of controlled immigration, free trade, deregulation, school choice vouchers, small government, tax cuts, welfare that helps people, and freedom from religious prosecution do not suit your tastebuds, then let that be. But the underlying fact that a 1000 years of darkness are upon us.

Actually, now you are confusing my Empire with the coming reign of Jesus Christ Himself. He will defeat the Antichrist at Armageddon and then establish His 1000 year Millennial Reign of Holiness. This will not be a time of darkness, though the tribulation brought upon the whole world by the Antichrist will be the darkest days of humanity in all of history. Thankfully, Jesus will come to rescue us from the Antichrist.

By stopping you and your crusades, we are protecting our children from 1000 years of darkness.

Vote Ocean, to be free from religious persecution

oceanhawk wrote:

Private school students still will need to sit the state exams, however the way in which the students are thought is up to the school its self, and is in the best interest of the school to deliver excellent results to continue functioning

Socialised education does not work. I have experience in both. When I was in a socialised public school back when my state was controlled by the Democratic Party, I was in the same grade as the people who I tutored. There was no privatised system at all, it was everyone gets taught this no matter what level of thinking they are on. In this way I was the most intelligent child in my class for all of 8 years, yet I at least had some competition in private school.

This may sound like boasting. I am not boasting. We are all so close relationship-wise that we all shared our grades, good or bad, with one another. I am merely going off grades.

purplepizza117 wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Private school students still will need to sit the state exams, however the way in which the students are thought is up to the school its self, and is in the best interest of the school to deliver excellent results to continue functioning

I can vouch for some parts of private school education, as I was enrolled in one for four years. For the most part the private school system in my area had to abide by all of the silly exam regulations the state produced. But for the most part the school was free to do what it wanted and it caused my class to be a full year ahead our public school counterparts.

Socialised education does not work. I have experience in both. When I was in a socialised public school back when my state was controlled by the Democratic Party, I was in the same grade as the people who I tutored. There was no privatised system at all, it was everyone gets taught this no matter what level of thinking they are on. In this way I was the most intelligent child in my class for all of 8 years, yet I at least had some competition in private school.

This may sound like boasting. I am not boasting. We are all so close relationship-wise that we all shared our grades, good or bad, with one another. I am merely going off grades.

I wont have a lot of regulation, I will just have a set of state exams that all students must complete, regardless of where you attend school. The systems in public schools are inneficent and failing. And the more it fails the more money wants to be spent. Taking it away from Ordinary folk who's tax bucks now cant be spent on the Private schools for their kids..

Come on ocean, we are all depending on you :3

Oceanhawk is gaining FAST!

Oceanhawk - 10 votes

Diabolical - 11

Other candidates have gone as far as to endorse and vote for Oceanhawk in retaliation !

It's going to be a close race !

Both top candidates are fighting hard for voters!

Keep it up! And thanks to everyone who is actively participating!

Irritator wrote:

Come on ocean, we are all depending on you :3

We cant have a PM that denies evolution, and wants to burn every single Science text book, and make us live in chains and slavery to the "Pope"

Diabolical wrote:

He will defeat the Antichrist at Armageddon and then establish His 1000 year Millennial Reign of Holiness.

oceanhawk wrote:

I appreciate the Support

We cant have a PM that denies evolution, and wants to burn every single Science text book, and make us live in chains and slavery to the "Pope"

I appreciate my campaign team AND my supporters.

And yes we can have a PM that denies evolution. It is a false religious teaching that has no basis in real definable science.

I love science. It is one of my main hobbies as well as being a part of my profession. But I don't like junk science. I would never burn a real science textbook. As much as a science book can be salvaged without having to rip out too many evolution pages, I would be fine with keeping it in use...even encourage it to be used. In fact, I wish more science were taught in our schools. Our society is falling behind in science because of the wasted time spent on useless evolutionary teachings.

But there are a few cases where so-called "textbooks" are not textbooks, they are indoctrination books especially designed to drum in the dogma of evolution...especially to young children. Those books should be burned because they are taking an hypothetical idea and blending it with a little bit of truth to make the hypothesis of evolution SEEM true.

The way they mix evolution with science is the same with rat poison. You take a little bit of poison and mix it with good food. The rats eat it and die. The same is true with evolution. You mix evolution with real science and people absorb this information and then many die as unrepentant disbelievers. And they go to hell...no better off than the rat. But they might have been able to accept salvation had their minds not been seared and hardened -- so polluted with such a huge lie as evolution.

This is how they confuse the children. They make them think evolution is true because they are not shown science apart from evolution. Children can and should learn pure science. They need to learn and develop critical thinking skills. But how can they learn to develop critical thinking when they are forced to sit there in a class with a teacher shoveling evolutionary excrement down their throats on a daily basis?

And if the child dares to question the ludicrousness of the evolutionary crap he or she is being fed, they are shot down by a hostile teacher and ridiculed in front of their fellow classmates...sometimes to such severed detrimental effect that the child develops a severe depression eventually leading to suicide. And THIS is supposed to be acceptable teaching?

Evolutionary teaching has played a major part in leading to well over a hundred million murders and genocide and countless more suicides in the past two hundred years. Evolutionary belief in the superiority of one's "race" over another was the leading reason for mass genocides by the Nazis and by Communists and by other non-Christian totalitarian regimes throughout the twentieth century. Stalin murdered millions. Hitler murdered millions. Pol Pot Murdered millions. Hirohito murdered millions....and it goes on and on.

And all of those slaughters of humanity were done under the guise that the murderer's "race" was superior to others. The Japanese taught that white people were less evolved because we were big and hairy...very "apelike". The Nazis taught that Jews were less evolved with "apelike" facial features. American slave holders were taught to believe that black people were less evolved. This kind of crap is used over and over to justify the murderous genocide of millions.

This whole idea of evolution is the biggest cause of murder in all of human history. In fact, over a billion human children -- that's "billion" with a 'B' -- have been murdered in the womb because they are considered to be less developed and less evolved. Their lives are treated as not having worth..."they don't matter, they are just extraneous flesh". Next to the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the abortion of so many children is the biggest crime in all of human history. It is nauseating to think about how many millions of evil people are so complicit in abortion.

There are no end to the stories of young people who -- taught that life is meaningless and that they are nothing more than worm food -- decide to take their own lives. And may of them also take others with them. Most of the school shootings of the past few decades in America -- by students -- have been committed by students who believed that evolution was true and that -- therefor -- life was meaningless.

And no school shooting has every been done by a genuine born-again Christian. That thought alone should make you think. I'm not even sure if any school shooting has ever even been done by a professing born-again Christian who isn't genuine. Of course, nobody who isn't a genuine Christian would ever want to claim to be born-again because being willing to admit you are born-again -- like myself -- face ridicule and persecution every day...even here in America.

As Emperor, my schools would not force Christianity on any child. I would let them choose what to believe and I would let their families choose where to send them. But when it comes to the debate of evolution vs. young earth creationism (YEC), they are just two sides of the same coin, the coin of theory. At least I'm willing to admit that YEC is -- scientifically speaking -- at best -- a theory when it comes to an interpretation of the facts.

But the dogmatic zealots of evolution would burn a YEC-believing person at the stake for daring to cry out a heresy against the religion of evolution. My faith does not allow us to burn anyone at the stake...that others calling themselves "Christians" did it in the very distant past defies the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Furthermore, I happen to be a Protestant, so I would not "make" anyone subservient to the Pope. Besides, haven't you been reading what I've said over the past many posts? I would be Emperor of the nation. The Christian Empire would be MY empire....not the Pope's. Though, since I belong to God, really the Empire would belong to the Lord. I would just be it's steward. But I can use the self-owning terminology because I would be charged by God to own it on His behalf.

BTW, for those that actually aren't aware of what it really means to be an Emperor, that idea of ownership -- of fealty over the land and it's people -- is one of the ways in which an Emperor is similar to a King.

...not that I have any delusions of grandeur or anything.

Vote ITP to prevent the spread of evolution's lies.

Vote Diabolical

Diabolical wrote:

And yes we can have a PM that denies evolution. It is a false religious teaching that has no basis in real definable science.