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I was going to give Ocean's post a like but then he said Europe is weak

UK has the second most CV in the world and is building more. They have nuclear capability as well as nuclear subs. Attack subs are being built too, around 5 or so, maybe more.

In fact, the British have a smart bomb so good that whenever RAF are supporting US troops, the US troops always ask the RAF to bring that bomb along. Alas, I cannot remember it's name, I just know it looks like a Hellfire. If anyone wants to know I will find the bomb's name.

Quasi-duck wrote:

I was going to give Ocean's post a like but then he said Europe is weak

UK has the second most CV in the world and is building more. They have nuclear capability as well as nuclear subs. Attack subs are being built too, around 5 or so, maybe more.

In fact, the British have a smart bomb so good that whenever RAF are supporting US troops, the US troops always ask the RAF to bring that bomb along. Alas, I cannot remember it's name, I just know it looks like a Hellfire. If anyone wants to know I will find the bomb's name.

Brimstone.. paveway?

their numbers are being decresed as well..

I was a little too harsh, the brits have a good army, just getting smaller and smaller. They have the best special forces in the world. Although they will soon, have that disease the F-35

Their strike ability, is pretty strong. But over all, I still think Germans most fit for war in europe

oceanhawk wrote:

paveway?

oceanhawk wrote:

I was a little too harsh, the brits have a good army, just getting smaller and smaller.

oceanhawk wrote:

I still think Germans most fit for war in europe

Besides, they cannot project power. Only the French, British, and the Irish apparently, seem to be able to do that.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

paveway?

It is the Paveway, yes. If stuff goes bad, production can easily be bumped up.

oceanhawk wrote:

I was a little too harsh, the brits have a good army, just getting smaller and smaller.

Like pre-WWII. If there is one thing the Brits can do though, it is re-arm quickly.

oceanhawk wrote:

I still think Germans most fit for war in europe

Why? They have nothing going for them, all because of their mindset and promises. They said they will not invade somewhere. So, if they do, they word becomes useless and they will lose allies, trust, and be condemned by the EU and UN.

Besides, they cannot project power. Only the French, British, and the Irish apparently, seem to be able to do that.

Non sense,

Germans cannot project power?

Took over europe, in like 2 years so yea..

oceanhawk wrote:

Non sense,

Germans cannot project power?

Took over europe, in like 2 years so yea..

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

Non sense,

Germans cannot project power?

Took over europe, in like 2 years so yea..

Tell me, what would Germany use for an invasion of, say, Ireland?

operation green, off spring of Sealion

oceanhawk wrote:

When they were conquering Ireland

operation green, off spring of Sealion

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

When they were conquering Ireland

operation green, off spring of Sealion

I'm on about today, not in the '40's.

tell me what Ireland has?

Not to mention, Germany can actually produce war machines

oceanhawk wrote:

they have 10 frigates and 5 coverts

oceanhawk wrote:

Not to mention, Germany can actually produce war machines

oceanhawk wrote:

tell me what Ireland has?

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

they have 10 frigates and 5 coverts

Exaclty, further proves my point. Now, tell me how one makes an amphibious landing without getting the ships beached. Even better, tell me how many troops those ships carry. Now tell me how they keep a supply line open when they have attacked an EU and UN nation.

oceanhawk wrote:

Not to mention, Germany can actually produce war machines

Ain't that suspicious though? None of their neighbours are going to like a re-armed Germany preparing for an invasion. Neither will the countryfolk of Germany.

oceanhawk wrote:

tell me what Ireland has?

8 patrol vessels, some of which carry helicopters which can be used as bombers, WWI style. They also have two CN-235, RHIB's, some training vessels, and they are setting up sat-comms since July of 2015 for the whole fleet. There is also some decommissioned ships, including mine layers and corvettes. As far as I know some these were not scrapped.

We are talking about Germany, not their allies

No point evening mentioning the CN-235s, they wont last 10minutes in the air

are pc-6s wont do sqat

now instead of Germany invading an Island, now considor them invading, Denmark or Poland, just for example

or even Germany fighting both, would be that hard.

My point is, the Germans aint got focuses elsewhere, like UK and France

oceanhawk wrote:

now instead of Germany invading an Island, now considor them invading, Denmark or Poland, just for example

or even Germany fighting both, would be that hard.

G (German) tanks - 250-320 P(Polish) - ~1,000

Other AFV's are around the same.

G arty - ~149 P - ~1,200

G attack heli - ~48 P - ~200

G jets - 174 P - 192

oceanhawk wrote:

No point even mentioning the CN-235s, they won't last 10 minutes in the air.

Pablo22510 wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

No point even mentioning the CN-235s, they won't last 10 minutes in the air.

Whoa! You're insulting Spanish-made aircraft that are used all over the world!

Id take my chances falling to the sea, from 40k feet in the air

"When headteacher ironic asks who have the most notes in student diary in this term."

oceanhawk wrote:

when faced with a few eurofighters?

Id take my chances falling to the sea, from 40k feet in the air

oceanhawk wrote:

America, have the best armed forces in the world, you cant deny it. They are the most powerful force in the world. The chinease are a joke of an army, the Russians are still pretty lethal

There's no hope for America...

China on the other hand, can field enough soldiers to take over all of Asia if they want to. They don't need silly things like tanks and airplanes. They've got the world's biggest cannon fodder ever devised.

Remember the scene from World War Z where the zombies scale the gigantic walls of Jerusalem by climbing on each other like ants? The Chinese foot soldiers could create their own land-mass bridge out of bodies across the north Pacific to walk across into North America.

Need a barrier against incoming tanks? Throw a giant barrier made out of a few million men marching at the tanks. Heck, the weight of the manpower could crush the tanks just by piling on top of them. Even if you just had 1,000,000 men go out to the road and poop all in the same stretch of road, the terrain would become too slushy and slick even for the tank tracks to forge across.

If I had 200,000,000 human bodies each ready with a rifle, I'd just have them go in groups of 10,000,000 in every direction and the combined force of just one medium caliber cartridge from each would tear down everything in their path. Got a tank in the way? Just have 50,000 men shoot at it simultaneously. Got a fortified bunker? Man, just 10,000 ought to do it...but be sure to focus all the shot in the same spot.

Joke of an army? Yeah, you don't understand China, do you?

oceanhawk wrote:

I was a little too harsh, the brits have a good army, just getting smaller and smaller. They have the best special forces in the world. Although they will soon, have that disease the F-35

Their strike ability, is pretty strong. But over all, I still think Germans most fit for war in europe

Now if they could just make that zombie wall a little taller....

Quasi-duck wrote:

8 patrol vessels, some of which carry helicopters which can be used as bombers, WWI style. They also have two CN-235, RHIB's, some training vessels, and they are setting up sat-comms since July of 2015 for the whole fleet. There is also some decommissioned ships, including mine layers and corvettes. As far as I know some these were not scrapped.

In just one parked set of decommissioned vessels near Seattle, WA, there is more sea power than the entire combined might of Ireland AND Germany put together.

Use Google maps to look just a little west across the sound from Seattle...that one decommissioned fleet stationed there is stronger than most navies around the world. Plus there are a few active duty ships there also, but I'm not even counting them. And that's only one of many sites around America where mothballed ships wait to get recommissioned in times of war.

Come to think of it, I think we sink more ships to make artificial reefs in any given year than the combined strengths of Ireland and Germany. Heck, we even sell off some of our old equipment to other nations like India and Brazil. Germany could triple their sea power if they just bought one of our decommissioned carriers.

And China is still stronger than us in brute force of manpower.

We could drop nuke after nuke upon column after column of Chinese soldiers until our satellites could no longer spot them through the dust and haze, and -- still -- more would come.

Diabolical wrote:

Wow! That's a lot...not.

In just one parked set of decommissioned vessels near Seattle, WA, there is more sea power than the entire combined might of Ireland AND Germany put together.

Use Google maps to look just a little west across the sound from Seattle...that one decommissioned fleet stationed there is stronger than most navies around the world. Plus there are a few active duty ships there also, but I'm not even counting them. And that's only one of many sites around America where mothballed ships wait to get recommissioned in times of war.

Come to think of it, I think we sink more ships to make artificial reefs in any given year than the combined strengths of Ireland and Germany. Heck, we even sell off some of our old equipment to other nations like India and Brazil. Germany could triple their sea power if they just bought one of our decommissioned carriers.

And China is still stronger than us in brute force of manpower.

We could drop nuke after nuke upon column after column of Chinese soldiers until our satellites could no longer spot them through the dust and haze, and -- still -- more would come.

Also, you would be a terrible general if you just send men against everything. You want them to shout "Tenno Heika Banzai!" while they're at it?

Whoa, whoa. @Diabolical. China is the complete opposite of the US.

Extremely weak army, for the reasons you pointed out. Behind technologically. In all three branches of the armed forces. I ain't gonna write a long post.

However, China is very ambitious in foreign policy. Unlike the US. And the US has the means to pursue an aggressive foreign policy. But the disaster of Iraq has made you pussycats. Now you won't do anything. And I like Obama, but he has to be slightly more aggressive. Good luck with Hillary, btw.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Extremely weak army, for the reasons you pointed out. Behind technologically. In all three branches of the armed forces. I ain't gonna write a long post.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Ehm, what? Where the hell do you get your info? China is one of the three big powers of the world, is the biggest local power in the South China sea, had a submarine that recently followed a US carrier group for a solid month before being found. The Chinese are highly advanced. They make anti-ship missiles that worry even the US.