Political Memes.

Pablo22510 wrote:

that their sole (maybe they have two, don't know now) aircraft carrier is a Russian one from the fifties.

Pablo22510 wrote:

The US is also more technologically advanced in terms of destroyers, frigates, corvettes and cruisers,

Pablo22510 wrote:

their land forces are wayyyyyyy better

On top of this, some of your facts have been easily proved wrong, putting the rest on shaky ground.

Quasi-duck wrote:

And? US ships have been sunk by guys in little dinghy's.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Do you have solid proof of this? The Chinese have not seen much combat so that is speculation on your part.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Proof. And if true, Chinese ships can also be sunk in that way.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Prove the opposite.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Look, I can't prove it but neither can you disprove it.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/not-so-scary-why-chinas-military-paper-tiger-14085

Quasi-duck wrote:

Fault, I phrased it wrong. It was damaged by a dinghy with explosives and was put out of action for 14 months. The USS Cole bombing.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Well, there are many articles on the Internet about how the Chinese military is pretty bad.

Pablo22510 wrote:

something that doesn't happen with radar.

Quasi-duck wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Well, there are many articles on the Internet about how the Chinese military is pretty bad.

There is also articles about how people have been abducted by Nazi's, aliens, and Nazi aliens as well as the Earth being hollow and that everyone who is rich and powerful is a shape-shifting lizard. Don't believe everything you read.

Pablo22510 wrote:

something that doesn't happen with radar.

Ah yes, radar and sonar are just soooo effective. Explains why a Chinese submarine wasn't found for a month, eh?

1. Ok. I'll use this against you later on.
2. Prove that the Chinese sub wasn't found.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Extremely weak army, for the reasons you pointed out. Behind technologically. In all three branches of the armed forces. I ain't gonna write a long post.

[spoiler]

Diabolical wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

America, have the best armed forces in the world, you cant deny it. They are the most powerful force in the world. The chinease are a joke of an army, the Russians are still pretty lethal

I'm American, and I'm proud of the American fighting spirit and our willingness to go anywhere in the world to help the downtrodden. But we have a girlie sucky president and might get another sucky president who happens to actually be a girl. I'd put my hopes in Trump except he's likely gonna make deals with the Taliban and ISIS to give us a take of their spoils of war.

There's no hope for America...

China on the other hand, can field enough soldiers to take over all of Asia if they want to. They don't need silly things like tanks and airplanes. They've got the world's biggest cannon fodder ever devised.

Remember the scene from World War Z where the zombies scale the gigantic walls of Jerusalem by climbing on each other like ants? The Chinese foot soldiers could create their own land-mass bridge out of bodies across the north Pacific to walk across into North America.

Need a barrier against incoming tanks? Throw a giant barrier made out of a few million men marching at the tanks. Heck, the weight of the manpower could crush the tanks just by piling on top of them. Even if you just had 1,000,000 men go out to the road and poop all in the same stretch of road, the terrain would become too slushy and slick even for the tank tracks to forge across.

If I had 200,000,000 human bodies each ready with a rifle, I'd just have them go in groups of 10,000,000 in every direction and the combined force of just one medium caliber cartridge from each would tear down everything in their path. Got a tank in the way? Just have 50,000 men shoot at it simultaneously. Got a fortified bunker? Man, just 10,000 ought to do it...but be sure to focus all the shot in the same spot.

Joke of an army? Yeah, you don't understand China, do you?

oceanhawk wrote:

I was a little too harsh, the brits have a good army, just getting smaller and smaller. They have the best special forces in the world. Although they will soon, have that disease the F-35

Their strike ability, is pretty strong. But over all, I still think Germans most fit for war in europe

I'm pretty sure the Israelis still have the best spec forces in the world...And we've got the Navy Seals. But Israel is at the top of the heap.

Now if they could just make that zombie wall a little taller....

Quasi-duck wrote:

8 patrol vessels, some of which carry helicopters which can be used as bombers, WWI style. They also have two CN-235, RHIB's, some training vessels, and they are setting up sat-comms since July of 2015 for the whole fleet. There is also some decommissioned ships, including mine layers and corvettes. As far as I know some these were not scrapped.

Wow! That's a lot...not.

In just one parked set of decommissioned vessels near Seattle, WA, there is more sea power than the entire combined might of Ireland AND Germany put together.

Use Google maps to look just a little west across the sound from Seattle...that one decommissioned fleet stationed there is stronger than most navies around the world. Plus there are a few active duty ships there also, but I'm not even counting them. And that's only one of many sites around America where mothballed ships wait to get recommissioned in times of war.

Come to think of it, I think we sink more ships to make artificial reefs in any given year than the combined strengths of Ireland and Germany. Heck, we even sell off some of our old equipment to other nations like India and Brazil. Germany could triple their sea power if they just bought one of our decommissioned carriers.

And China is still stronger than us in brute force of manpower.

We could drop nuke after nuke upon column after column of Chinese soldiers until our satellites could no longer spot them through the dust and haze, and -- still -- more would come.

hope that spoiler worked..

China have cannon fodder, and thats about it..

Seals are inferior to the SAS, but Israel , yes do have some good units.

oceanhawk wrote:

China have cannon fodder, and thats about it..

Pablo22510 wrote:

Prove that the Chinese sub wasn't found.

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

China have cannon fodder, and thats about it..

Screw, I'm just going to show you China's new recruiting video.

watch this instead, for more information

Side note for all, I think my headphones are breaking, I can't hear sound on YT vids unless I play them through Discord. On top of that, vids make my computer freeze. I cannot buy new gear either because, of late, I spent all my money on a TV (I went splits on this), a phone, and a bunch of antique books totaling over €200-€300 (all my new goods together).

Now, back on topic, go China!

Quasi-duck wrote:

Side note for all, I think my headphones are breaking, I can't hear sound on YT vids unless I play them through Discord. On top of that, vids make my computer freeze. I cannot buy new gear either because, of late, I spent all my money on a TV (I went splits on this), a phone, and a bunch of antique books totaling over €200-€300 (all my new goods together).

Now, back on topic, go China!

if you watch that video..

its okay has subtitles..

oceanhawk wrote:

if you watch that video..

its okay has subtitles..

Quasi-duck wrote:

On top of that, vids make my computer freeze

oceanhawk wrote:

Quasi-duck wrote:

oceanhawk wrote:

China have cannon fodder, and thats about it..

Screw, I'm just going to show you China's new recruiting video.

Dont speak CChinese

watch this instead, for more information

Try this one instead.

GreatbigHippo wrote:

Try this one instead.

that video, is actually not crap..

its all true..

and no, its only a few months old

Quasi-duck wrote:

GreatbigHippo wrote:

Try this one instead.

I think some of those clips are fairly old. I'm not sure if you meant that to be good or bad though.

Quasi-duck wrote:

It's what the US said, they were the ones who found it. A month late, anyways....

Pablo22510 wrote:

Prove they weren't lying.