It isn't, I am sure of it. Hang on a mo.Pablo22510 wrote:
but I think the Fw.190 is the best German (non jet) fighter of the war
Supermarine Spitfire vs Focke Wulf 190 vs Zero
Which is the better airplane?
you are a balls
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Sure.
Yeah, I think the Me 410 is better.
I don't think so.
Why?Pablo22510 wrote:
I don't think so.
Pretty good firepower, amazing climbing rate and dive speed, very fast. I'm not saying the Me 410 is bad. Not at all. Tbh, I don't know it that well. It looks similar to the Bf 110, and the 110 is my fav WW2 plane. I love the concept.
The 410 is the newer new 110 and the new 210.
Cool.
Germans had best technology full stop..Maximilien wrote:
The Germans had the best technology to the Allies.oceanhawk wrote:
Ha thats like comparing a wolf to a sheep...German Engineering every time boyzz..
nobody were a match..
Even till today,
Id take a German car over everything else

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Really? 'Cause some of the best tech comes from Japan, China, Russia, America. Hell, the Russians have more advanced drones across a wider type of weaponry than even the Americans!oceanhawk wrote:
Even till today,Id take a German car over everything else
Russians will have the best air force in a few years. But thats not just due to their improving Air power.Quasi-duck wrote:
Really? 'Cause some of the best tech comes from Japan, China, Russia, America. Hell, the Russians have more advanced drones across a wider type of weaponry than even the Americans!oceanhawk wrote:
Even till today,Id take a German car over everything else
Partially due to, the f-35.. will make American Air power, drop
Russians will rule the air in a few years. Do I hate that idea( prob) But I cant deny it.. Russians will have most powerful air force in a few years.
Cars are mechanical not tech
I know my cars, and Id take a Porsche over anything in the world.
No other car, has that same level of class that you get in a Porsche
Now Im not saying the other cars are bad. Id love a Mustang
But Germans have the Cars

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
@oceanhawk maybe we shouldn't argue here. Besides, Russian economy is in trouble thanks to a drop in oil prices and last I heard they can't get drill heads that they need for deep water excavation anymore that will take them 10+ years to develop.
China may have it's day in the hot-seat yet. Especially with the new J-10 and J-15 on top of their growing CV numbers as well as submarines that can track US carriers for a month without being found.
On top of this, China is securing it's grip on the South China sea with fishermen and artificial islands. I've heard of some new Chinese anti-ship missiles that fly too fast to shoot down with current tech and go in a parabolic arc, like an ICBM, rather than along the water like a Harpoon missile.
Yes they seem to be building lots of Islands..Quasi-duck wrote:
@oceanhawk maybe we shouldn't argue here. Besides, Russian economy is in trouble thanks to a drop in oil prices and last I heard they can't get drill heads that they need for deep water excavation anymore that will take them 10+ years to develop.China may have it's day in the hot-seat yet. Especially with the new J-10 and J-15 on top of their growing CV numbers as well as submarines that can track US carriers for a month without being found.
On top of this, China is securing it's grip on the South China sea with fishermen and artificial islands. I've heard of some new Chinese anti-ship missiles that fly too fast to shoot down with current tech and go in a parabolic arc, like an ICBM, rather than along the water like a Harpoon missile.
to be honest China army is a joke..
I think they are not a threat at all...Its not China and America..
Im not sure about the efficency on the J-10s and J-15s..
the CV.. pls
Subs.. maybe so... China are a dodgy when it comes to facts...
but as for that weapon, I have heard about that. Although I think it might have been on China uncensorced, which is not really somewhere to get your views from. They seem to be getting something good done with that weapon..
The Chinese stealth abilty, they took from the Americans anyway..
I think its Russia and America..
Russia are really going to be the ones, who will be ahead
yes.. lets go somewhere else to argue.. cough cough..

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
I disagree but I respect your opinion.oceanhawk wrote:
Yes they seem to be building lots of Islands..to be honest China army is a joke..
I think they are not a threat at all...Its not China and America..
Im not sure about the efficency on the J-10s and J-15s..
the CV.. pls
Subs.. maybe so... China are a dodgy when it comes to facts...
but as for that weapon, I have heard about that. Although I think it might have been on China uncensorced, which is not really somewhere to get your views from. They seem to be getting something good done with that weapon..
The Chinese stealth abilty, they took from the Americans anyway..
I think its Russia and America..
Russia are really going to be the ones, who will be ahead
I respect your opinionQuasi-duck wrote:
I disagree but I respect your opinion.oceanhawk wrote:
Yes they seem to be building lots of Islands..to be honest China army is a joke..
I think they are not a threat at all...Its not China and America..
Im not sure about the efficency on the J-10s and J-15s..
the CV.. pls
Subs.. maybe so... China are a dodgy when it comes to facts...
but as for that weapon, I have heard about that. Although I think it might have been on China uncensorced, which is not really somewhere to get your views from. They seem to be getting something good done with that weapon..
The Chinese stealth abilty, they took from the Americans anyway..
I think its Russia and America..
Russia are really going to be the ones, who will be ahead

If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
Loved their Volkswagen Van, but it had technical issues left it and right.oceanhawk wrote:
Germans had best technology full stop..nobody were a match..Maximilien wrote:
The Germans had the best technology to the Allies.oceanhawk wrote:
Ha thats like comparing a wolf to a sheep...German Engineering every time boyzz..
Even till today,
Id take a German car over everything else
βDad, how do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?β
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"Rule 1, on page 1 of the book of war, is: 'Do not march on Moscow'β¦ Rule 2 is: 'Do not go fighting with your land armies in China."
Bernard Law Montgomery, British general
The concept, the [i][/i][i]ZerstΓΆrer[/i], (Destroyer), was proven to be flawed during the Battle of Britain when Me 110s fought single engined Spitfires and Hurricanes......I agree that it looks cool, but the Me 110 (and its descendants the 210 and 410) could never be used for their original purpose, and were rightfully relegated to night fighter and ground attack roles.Pablo22510 wrote:
Pretty good firepower, amazing climbing rate and dive speed, very fast. I'm not saying the Me 410 is bad. Not at all. Tbh, I don't know it that well. It looks similar to the Bf 110, and the 110 is my fav WW2 plane. I love the concept.
Yeah, I know they were shit as air-to-air fighters. But very good as ground attack, and yet had a good defense against other fighters. That's the kind of aircraft I like.Liberinsula wrote:
The concept, the [i]ZerstΓΆrer, (Destroyer), was proven to be flawed during the Battle of Britain when Me 110s fought single engined Spitfires and Hurricanes......I agree that it looks cool, but the Me 110 (and its descendants the 210 and 410) could never be used for their original purpose, and were rightfully relegated to night fighter and ground attack roles.Pablo22510 wrote:
Pretty good firepower, amazing climbing rate and dive speed, very fast. I'm not saying the Me 410 is bad. Not at all. Tbh, I don't know it that well. It looks similar to the Bf 110, and the 110 is my fav WW2 plane. I love the concept.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Liberinsula wrote:
Pablo22510 wrote:
Even in that respect I'd argue the Me 110 to be inferior to its allied counterpart, namely the DeHavilland Mosquito.Pablo22510 wrote:
Yeah, I know they were shit as air-to-air fighters. But very good as ground attack, and yet had a good defense against other fighters. That's the kind of aircraft I like.Liberinsula wrote:
The concept, the [i]ZerstΓΆrer, (Destroyer), was proven to be flawed during the Battle of Britain when Me 110s fought single engined Spitfires and Hurricanes......I agree that it looks cool, but the Me 110 (and its descendants the 210 and 410) could never be used for their original purpose, and were rightfully relegated to night fighter and ground attack roles.Pablo22510 wrote:
Pretty good firepower, amazing climbing rate and dive speed, very fast. I'm not saying the Me 410 is bad. Not at all. Tbh, I don't know it that well. It looks similar to the Bf 110, and the 110 is my fav WW2 plane. I love the concept.
BTW sorry for quoting the same post twice...kinda stupid of me
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