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I don't speak that language

well what do you speak then feller? American?

Carking the 6th wrote:

Русский фембой — распространенное существо в РФ, родственное польскому фемботу. Российские фембои в среднем имеют рост около шести футов (1,829 метра) и весят почти 160 фунтов (72,575 килограмма). Они известны женственными голосами, покорным характером и переменами настроения. Им нравится массировать живот и примерять костюмы горничных. По данным Международного консорциума по исследованию фембоев (IFRC), лучший вариант действий, если вы наткнулись на русского фембоя, — вести себя нормально, отклонить попытки и уйти как можно скорее. Длительный контакт может привести к конверсии, если вы русский, или к нежелательной активности. Для получения дополнительной информации обратитесь в ближайший к вам центр МФКК.

TommyHR wrote:

I don't speak that language

russ_russ1 wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Русский фембой — распространенное существо в РФ, родственное польскому фемботу. Российские фембои в среднем имеют рост около шести футов (1,829 метра) и весят почти 160 фунтов (72,575 килограмма). Они известны женственными голосами, покорным характером и переменами настроения. Им нравится массировать живот и примерять костюмы горничных. По данным Международного консорциума по исследованию фембоев (IFRC), лучший вариант действий, если вы наткнулись на русского фембоя, — вести себя нормально, отклонить попытки и уйти как можно скорее. Длительный контакт может привести к конверсии, если вы русский, или к нежелательной активности. Для получения дополнительной информации обратитесь в ближайший к вам центр МФКК.

I hope you cry yourself to sleep at night

I do not like belly rubs I’m not a furry…eww…

russ_russ1 wrote:

Donk2.0 wrote:

russ_russ1 wrote:

I ain’t readin all dat

Average Russian when presented with information that proves the lack of morals of their leadership.

I’ll give you a nuh-uh and a knuckle sandwich

Kalingrad is a very bad example. It was (and is) basically a naval base in a small exclave of annexed Russian territory between Poland and (fellow USSR state at the time) Lithuania. They were VERY sensitive of their military secrets at the time, but that doesn't necessarily mean suppression of civil rights.

I first visited Moscow and Leningrad as a kid on a school trip in 1980, and even when it is true that you don't "see" many things when you're a kid, they were both beautiful and cultured cities with a "normal" social life. I had the extreme luck that my teacher had managed to get tickets for the Bolshoi theatre, and I will never forget the show I saw there, the quality was just incomparable to the West. Bars and parks were busy and joyful; museums and monuments were beautiful and respected.

I visited a few more times in the eighties and nineties. When you weren't politically active, or when you bothered to hide it a bit like your 2x2 example, you were untouched. Do you think that the censors were stupid and didn't understand? Of course they did, but they could say they had ruled by the book. You were encouraged to get out of your life what you could; in fact it was your social duty to do so. Even though "officially" that was for the country and socialism, the boundaries were broad enough to usually include personal goals as well.

Really, I know some about Poland as well, and I recognize your stories. You can't really compare them to Russia though. Maybe the puppet runs a harsher regime than the Master?

K.Rokossovski wrote:

Kalingrad is a very bad example. It was (and is) basically a naval base in a small exclave of annexed Russian territory between Poland and (fellow USSR state at the time) Lithuania. They were VERY sensitive of their military secrets at the time, but that doesn't necessarily mean suppression of civil rights.

I first visited Moscow and Leningrad as a kid on a school trip in 1980, and even when it is true that you don't "see" many things when you're a kid, they were both beautiful and cultured cities with a "normal" social life. I had the extreme luck that my teacher had managed to get tickets for the Bolshoi theatre, and I will never forget the show I saw there, the quality was just incomparable to the West. Bars and parks were busy and joyful; museums and monuments were beautiful and respected.

I visited a few more times in the eighties and nineties. When you weren't politically active, or when you bothered to hide it a bit like your 2x2 example, you were untouched. Do you think that the censors were stupid and didn't understand? Of course they did, but they could say they had ruled by the book. You were encouraged to get out of your life what you could; in fact it was your social duty to do so. Even though "officially" that was for the country and socialism, the boundaries were broad enough to usually include personal goals as well.

Really, I know some about Poland as well, and I recognize your stories. You can't really compare them to Russia though. Maybe the puppet runs a harsher regime than the Master?

It's amazing that you were able to visit in that era. Here's why it doesn't portray life there fairly, though. First of all, you visited the union's two world-class cities, both of which are specially prepared to receive international, and especially Western visitors. Secondly, in 1980, Moscow was hosting the Olympics. This may seem relatively insignificant if that's not what you're there for, but it actually had a massive effect on overall QoL in the collective east. Being as controlled by Moscow as they were, other Eastern Bloc countries, especially Poland, were required to send a massive amount of goods to make it look like they had a lot over there. You may think that sending some stuff over couldn't have been that bad, after all, according to the state, they were producing a massive surplus of everything. Well, this relatively minimal thing destabilized the entire Eastern economy. It was as a result of this that rations were introduced, and they remained until 1989, NINE YEARS AFTER THE OLYMPICS ENDED. While cities like Leningrad and Moscow were being given international attention, tens of millions in other countries suffered. Now, life before rations was better than in the 80s, but it was still brutal. Likely at the exact moment you were in Moscow and Leningrad, the PRL, along with several other countries, were preparing to implement rations, especially for meat and other higher-quality goods. Rations were required to make sure that everyone had enough to live, otherwise, people would literally start starving. Attached to this, there are two graphs. Notice how the general rule was that, the farther east you got, the worse the access to food was, and the quality also took a big hit. Like I said, it went East Germany > Poland > Ukraine > Russia in terms of QoL. Although food isn't a perfect indicator of QoL, it plays a pretty big part in determining it. Third - You picked the two richest cities in the entire East. Major cities in the Eastern Bloc didn't work like in the West. Just to live in Moscow, you had to be rich or have government ties. What you saw was the upper 20% of the population. The CCCP was massive, and a vast majority of people lived in decrepit places far from the shiny spires of the Kremlin. It's like trying to judge how the "average" American lives by looking at those with a 130k salary. Censors were lax in some cases, but there are numerous examples of how brutal they could be sometimes. Anti-communist poems were really nothing compared to the elimination of political opponents and other figures. Censorship may seem pretty relaxed... until it isn't and your family is dead. My grandmother knows someone who disappeared after refusing to give the state-required cut of harvest. I've never been in the USSR, I wasn't born when it collapsed, but I've spent countless hours educating myself on the inner workings and history of what life there was like. Anyway, generally, what I think is that if your country's economy is incapable of assisting in another country's Olympics(not even hosting it) without entering a decade-long recession resulting in the ultimate collapse of the world's second-biggest sphere of influence, your economic system may be just a little flawed.

Bro spoke and cooked like a 5 course meal (I can’t understand complex English)

Will Google Translate help?

Donk2.0 wrote:

K.Rokossovski wrote:

Kalingrad is a very bad example. It was (and is) basically a naval base in a small exclave of annexed Russian territory between Poland and (fellow USSR state at the time) Lithuania. They were VERY sensitive of their military secrets at the time, but that doesn't necessarily mean suppression of civil rights.

I first visited Moscow and Leningrad as a kid on a school trip in 1980, and even when it is true that you don't "see" many things when you're a kid, they were both beautiful and cultured cities with a "normal" social life. I had the extreme luck that my teacher had managed to get tickets for the Bolshoi theatre, and I will never forget the show I saw there, the quality was just incomparable to the West. Bars and parks were busy and joyful; museums and monuments were beautiful and respected.

I visited a few more times in the eighties and nineties. When you weren't politically active, or when you bothered to hide it a bit like your 2x2 example, you were untouched. Do you think that the censors were stupid and didn't understand? Of course they did, but they could say they had ruled by the book. You were encouraged to get out of your life what you could; in fact it was your social duty to do so. Even though "officially" that was for the country and socialism, the boundaries were broad enough to usually include personal goals as well.

Really, I know some about Poland as well, and I recognize your stories. You can't really compare them to Russia though. Maybe the puppet runs a harsher regime than the Master?

They were on a state tour, so I doubt that they would be brought anywhere near military bases. This was on the ride from the Polish border to Kaliningrad, so all that was outside was the rural city outskirts.

It's amazing that you were able to visit in that era. Here's why it doesn't portray life there fairly, though. First of all, you visited the union's two world-class cities, both of which are specially prepared to receive international, and especially Western visitors. Secondly, in 1980, Moscow was hosting the Olympics. This may seem relatively insignificant if that's not what you're there for, but it actually had a massive effect on overall QoL in the collective east. Being as controlled by Moscow as they were, other Eastern Bloc countries, especially Poland, were required to send a massive amount of goods to make it look like they had a lot over there. You may think that sending some stuff over couldn't have been that bad, after all, according to the state, they were producing a massive surplus of everything. Well, this relatively minimal thing destabilized the entire Eastern economy. It was as a result of this that rations were introduced, and they remained until 1989, NINE YEARS AFTER THE OLYMPICS ENDED. While cities like Leningrad and Moscow were being given international attention, tens of millions in other countries suffered. Now, life before rations was better than in the 80s, but it was still brutal. Likely at the exact moment you were in Moscow and Leningrad, the PRL, along with several other countries, were preparing to implement rations, especially for meat and other higher-quality goods. Rations were required to make sure that everyone had enough to live, otherwise, people would literally start starving. Attached to this, there are two graphs. Notice how the general rule was that, the farther east you got, the worse the access to food was, and the quality also took a big hit. Like I said, it went East Germany > Poland > Ukraine > Russia in terms of QoL. Although food isn't a perfect indicator of QoL, it plays a pretty big part in determining it. Third - You picked the two richest cities in the entire East. Major cities in the Eastern Bloc didn't work like in the West. Just to live in Moscow, you had to be rich or have government ties. What you saw was the upper 20% of the population. The CCCP was massive, and a vast majority of people lived in decrepit places far from the shiny spires of the Kremlin. It's like trying to judge how the "average" American lives by looking at those with a 130k salary. Censors were lax in some cases, but there are numerous examples of how brutal they could be sometimes. Anti-communist poems were really nothing compared to the elimination of political opponents and other figures. Censorship may seem pretty relaxed... until it isn't and your family is dead. My grandmother knows someone who disappeared after refusing to give the state-required cut of harvest. I've never been in the USSR, I wasn't born when it collapsed, but I've spent countless hours educating myself on the inner workings and history of what life there was like. Anyway, generally, what I think is that if your country's economy is incapable of assisting in another country's Olympics(not even hosting it) without entering a decade-long recession resulting in the ultimate collapse of the world's second-biggest sphere of influence, your economic system may be just a little flawed.

Taffyta Muttonfudge wrote:

Will Google Translate help?

russ_russ1 wrote:

Bro spoke and cooked like a 5 course meal (I can’t understand complex English)

Taffyta Muttonfudge wrote:

Will Google Translate help?

Carking the 6th wrote:

3,200 does not sound so bad… the modern US is around 3,600!

GAAAH POLISH

Donk2.0 wrote:

russ_russ1 wrote:

Bro spoke and cooked like a 5 course meal (I can’t understand complex English)

A to? Ja mowie po polsku tez.

Taffyta Muttonfudge wrote:

Will Google Translate help?

Nie wiem. Ale zawsze mozna sprubowac.

Carking the 6th wrote:

3,200 does not sound so bad… the modern US is around 3,600!

Tak, ale ruznica jakosci jest wielka. Zobartz mienso. Kartofle duzo witamin nie daja.

russ_russ1 wrote:

I do not like belly rubs I’m not a furry…eww…

or would I?

*Vsauce theme plays*

Carking the 6th wrote:

Most Americans here consume quite a bit of fast food. Not very nutritious either. The Irish survived off potatoes for a while.. better than most countries to be honest.

New yorkers are scary peoples

Donk2.0 wrote:

Carking the 6th wrote:

Most Americans here consume quite a bit of fast food. Not very nutritious either. The Irish survived off potatoes for a while.. better than most countries to be honest.

There's a difference between choosing to eat unhealthy and not having an option to do so.

They’re accent is like murder like French language