Eh I mean for a medieval state it was not too bad, its level of brutality was rather normal even in the 1800’s for basically a colonial empire. It was really when it declined, failed to modernize in the 20th century, and the young Turks took power that the ‘fun’ part really started up…
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What are you talking about? The Ottomans did nothing wrongBrando Dilla wrote:
From what I can tell (I didn't read it) they're having an in-depth discussion about what France did in Indonesia.Addin Turx wrote:
WhatP.S. You may want to change your signature... the Ottoman Empire isn't something I think we should bring glory to.
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The Ottomans did nothing wrong

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What are you talking about? The Ottomans did nothing wrongBrando Dilla wrote:
From what I can tell (I didn't read it) they're having an in-depth discussion about what France did in Indonesia.P.S. You may want to change your signature... the Ottoman Empire isn't something I think we should bring glory to.Addin Turx wrote:
What
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_genocide
“Notable cases of persecution include the Constantinople massacre of 1821, the Chios massacre, the Destruction of Psara, the Batak massacre, the Hamidian massacres, the Adana massacre, the ethnic cleansing of Thracian Bulgarians in 1913, the Great Famine of Mount Lebanon and the Armenian genocide, Greek genocide and ...”
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Christianity in the Ottoman Empire - Wikipedia
“Ottoman conquerors pursued a harsh and brutal policy of forced expropriation of the peasants' land. In the beginning of the 16th century, almost all the Arab countries were subjugated by the Turks and incorporated in the Ottoman state. In 1514, Sultan Selim I (the Cruel) led the Turkish army to conquer northern Iraq.Dec 22, 2019”
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HISTORY: The Ottoman's dark and oppressive role in the Arab lands
https://nzhistory.govt.nz/war/ottoman-empire/background
“The Young Turks championed not only the idea of Turkish nationalism within the Ottoman Empire but also ‘pan-Turkic’ ideals – the ‘reunification’ of the ethnically or culturally related ‘Turkic′ populations of the Caucasus and Central Asia under Ottoman rule. This stance – and its explicit elevation of Turkish identity above all others – was at odds with the realities of a multinational empire and served only to inflame age-old ethnic and religious tensions between the various Ottoman subject peoples.“
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_persecution_of_Serbs
There are some things in here even I didn't know.
90% of this occurred under the Young Turks
The real Ottomans treated their people well by the standards of the time.
Glory to the Red Army!
Glory to the Revolution!
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BIASED lmaoBrando Dilla wrote:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_persecution_of_SerbsThere are some things in here even I didn't know.
No one is perfect, but they get the blame for the Young Turk's atrocitiesAddin Turx wrote:
What are you talking about? The Ottomans did nothing wrongBrando Dilla wrote:
From what I can tell (I didn't read it) they're having an in-depth discussion about what France did in Indonesia.P.S. You may want to change your signature... the Ottoman Empire isn't something I think we should bring glory to.Addin Turx wrote:
What
Glory to the Red Army!
Glory to the Revolution!
Marshal of the Forum High Command
Still shit, but not uncommon considering the age. China subjugated their neighbors, Europe wiped out half the world, and India had its caste systems. Not a big suprise the ottomans did some squalid shit as well lol.TheZhukov wrote:
90% of this occurred under the Young TurksThe real Ottomans treated their people well by the standards of the time.
Everyone did. Even countries like Palau and Equatorial Guinea had some form of subjugation. You can't deny it.Carking the 6th wrote:
Still shit, but not uncommon considering the age. China subjugated their neighbors, Europe wiped out half the world, and India had its caste systems. Not a big suprise the ottomans did some squalid shut as well lol.TheZhukov wrote:
90% of this occurred under the Young TurksThe real Ottomans treated their people well by the standards of the time.
You obviously didn't take the time to read the article.TheZhukov wrote:
BIASED lmaoBrando Dilla wrote:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_persecution_of_SerbsThere are some things in here even I didn't know.
No one is perfect, but they get the blame for the Young Turk's atrocities
Facts. You can like historical countries (to an extent) but you have to accept their history. Denying not only repeats the mistakes blah blah blah, but is just cringe.Brando Dilla wrote:
Everyone did. Even countries like Palau and Equatorial Guinea had some form of subjugation. You can't deny it.Carking the 6th wrote:
Still shit, but not uncommon considering the age. China subjugated their neighbors, Europe wiped out half the world, and India had its caste systems. Not a big suprise the ottomans did some squalid shut as well lol.TheZhukov wrote:
90% of this occurred under the Young TurksThe real Ottomans treated their people well by the standards of the time.
It's like denying Japan cus they like an-
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*looks at your pfp*
You forced me to an extent by picking this.
I'm only doing what I've promised to
We will begin with a reign of terror. A few murders here and there, murders of great men, murders of little men, just to show we make no distinction.
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Hmm… I see.
We will begin with a reign of terror. A few murders here and there, murders of great men, murders of little men, just to show we make no distinction.
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SMH no pop up I am disappointed
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