SO, I am creating this thread to get people's opinion on the UK wanting to leave the E.U. In my personal opinio I think that it is a bad decision, as after that, Scotland would like to leave the UK. From there UK takes it's oil. UK is going to run out of money sooner or later. Plus in 50 years every continent is going to fight over oil (war is inevitable). If Europe decides to break up into just individual countries, we might get defeated and so we would not be able to face the powerful countries such as: USA, China, Russia.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" -George S. Patton "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination" - Albert Einstein
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13 Mar 2016, 19:34
purplepizza117 wrote:
Terrible idea... the order of operations just after it shall be:
Scotland gets independence: UK is weaker than ever before
EU destabilises
EU is hardly an economic power anymore
Europe is destabilised as a whole
Europe relies on US for protection, military and economic
Russia/China makes a move against Europe either militarily (invasion of Belarus, maybe) or economic (China sanctioning EU)
US gets involved
WW3
i don't think that this will happen, but I do understand that people have different ideas. I personally don't think the E.U will crash because it will hard for that many countries to crash at once.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" -George S. Patton "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination" - Albert Einstein
13 Mar 2016, 20:11
purplepizza117 wrote:
(China sanctioning EU)
Wait wait wait, hold up! Why the hell would China do this? Europe is a huge market and China is a massive exporter of goods. An economic sanction would cripple themselves more than they would cripple Europe. We would lose luxury goods, they would lose jobs, businesses and money.
And, lets face it, the Chinese aren't exactly warmongers, are they? Not like they have had a good record the past few hundred years either.
13 Mar 2016, 21:28
FilipALFA wrote:
purplepizza117 wrote:
Terrible idea... the order of operations just after it shall be:
Scotland gets independence: UK is weaker than ever before
EU destabilises
EU is hardly an economic power anymore
Europe is destabilised as a whole
Europe relies on US for protection, military and economic
Russia/China makes a move against Europe either militarily (invasion of Belarus, maybe) or economic (China sanctioning EU)
US gets involved
WW3
i don't think that this will happen, but I do understand that people have different ideas. I personally don't think the E.U will crash because it will hard for that many countries to crash at once.
Great Depression? When stock markets fell and everything broke apart? Instead of New York, it'll be London, Berlin, Paris, etc.
13 Mar 2016, 22:00
I'll be voting to leave, then politicians will HAVE to pull their fingers out as they can't blame the Europeans in Brussels. Mind you, it is like trying to find a door in a pitch-black room.
British=best. Duh!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk
13 Mar 2016, 23:19
purplepizza117 wrote:
Terrible idea... the order of operations just after it shall be:
Scotland gets independence: UK is weaker than ever before
EU destabilises
EU is hardly an economic power anymore
Europe is destabilised as a whole
Europe relies on US for protection, military and economic
Russia/China makes a move against Europe either militarily (invasion of Belarus, maybe) or economic (China sanctioning EU)
US gets involved
WW3
Interesting.... You forgot to add the part about it being the stone age for all of us afterwards.
Terrible idea... the order of operations just after it shall be:
Scotland gets independence: UK is weaker than ever before
EU destabilises
EU is hardly an economic power anymore
Europe is destabilised as a whole
Europe relies on US for protection, military and economic
Russia/China makes a move against Europe either militarily (invasion of Belarus, maybe) or economic (China sanctioning EU)
US gets involved
WW3
i don't think that this will happen, but I do understand that people have different ideas. I personally don't think the E.U will crash because it will hard for that many countries to crash at once.
Great Depression? When stock markets fell and everything broke apart? Instead of New York, it'll be London, Berlin, Paris, etc.
Well, but not all of the countries in E.U have the same currency. Plus in New York the all the money passed through there first and then to the rest of USA. I here E.U is not a country it is a Union of different countries. Those countries have different curencies so that will be nearly impossible for that scenario to happen.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" -George S. Patton "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination" - Albert Einstein
14 Mar 2016, 20:53
To those saying Scotland will want independence if the UK leaves the EU, they won't get it. Technically only the English parliment can decide whether a referendum for Scottish independence can happen and cosidering the last one happened two years ago, it won't be happening any time soon.
I'll be voting to leave the EU as I really dislike the idea of the EU controlling a certain amount of the laws we make and the fact that the EU is run by Germany economically is scary. Britain leaving the EU will have both negative and positive effects for us and the EU. However in my eyes, the positives out-way the negatives.
14 Mar 2016, 23:33
Lieutenant Henry wrote:
To those saying Scotland will want independence if the UK leaves the EU, they won't get it. Technically only the English parliment can decide whether a referendum for Scottish independence can happen and cosidering the last one happened two years ago, it won't be happening any time soon.
I'll be voting to leave the EU as I really dislike the idea of the EU controlling a certain amount of the laws we make and the fact that the EU is run by Germany economically is scary. Britain leaving the EU will have both negative and positive effects for us and the EU. However in my eyes, the positives out-way the negatives.
Exactly saying Scotland getting independence is like Texas leaving the USA. I will never happen and if it did do u honestly think either country will allow it lol... I mean the Confederates thought that was a smart idea and look how that turned out..
Even though i dont live in Europe i understand their political system and economic system and like u said the EU's economy runs off the Germans and its never good to relay on anothers economy. Just look at the world today the worlds economy runs off the USA's and even though im a US citizen i wont deny the fact that when we have incidents like the rescission we came out of cause Bush kinda screwed over a lot of the worlds economy... Ive heard the gas prices in UK are like 13 crowns (euros idk the currency that well) for 1-2 liters. Meanwhile my local gas prices are like $1.80 for a gallon...
16 Mar 2016, 19:47
Emperor Lelouch wrote:
I will never happen and if it did do u honestly
You missed a 't' in it will.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" -George S. Patton "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination" - Albert Einstein
19 Mar 2016, 17:59
Quasi-duck wrote:
nemuritor98_ wrote:
Open borders to the money income but not for people whos running from wars EU didn't help
They have opened them, now they are getting swarms. More than others have taken in. How many have America, Russia or anyone else taken in?
Still more refugees than Russia or USA. Germany has too many to handle right now and has so many it will take years to sort them all out but are still willing to take more.
19 Mar 2016, 23:51
Britain/France/Germany are the strongest countries in the EU, Britain leaving will have catastrophic affects on the stability of the EU, and eventually the strength of Europe(and the world) as a whole. (I think)After Britain is gone, Ireland and Baltic/Scandinavian countries will soon follow, then the rest of northwest Europe until the Union collapses.
.. then again I'm just typing this out my arse.
yo, what did the pirate say to the parrot? ... he said, ARRR you y- i'm a cracker..? ahem.. s-sorry.. i'm not.. uh.. very *good* with uh.. y'know jokes. I don't know .. um, yeah i guess i uh... will just give you a quote! yeah.. thats what i'll do.. a quote.. ahem.. here's the quote: "We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light."
20 Mar 2016, 11:50
Reminds Quasi a bit of the League of Nations.
20 Mar 2016, 12:03
Jacey521 wrote:
Britain/France/Germany are the strongest countries in the EU, Britain leaving will have catastrophic affects on the stability of the EU, and eventually the strength of Europe(and the world) as a whole. (I think)After Britain is gone, Ireland and Baltic/Scandinavian countries will soon follow, then the rest of northwest Europe until the Union collapses.
.. then again I'm just typing this out my arse.
A valid view, but I disagree. For one thing, Brexit isn't simply going to happen, because everyone knows that if it does, Scotland has an emergency referendum, and they'll probably become independent. Even if Brexit occurs, long gone are the days where the UK was the US's sidekick. Britain's only hope of remaining in the G20, and thus in the most powerful countries, lies in staying in the EU.
The past is a foreign country.
20 Mar 2016, 15:11
Jacey521 wrote:
Britain/France/Germany are the strongest countries in the EU, Britain leaving will have catastrophic affects on the stability of the EU, and eventually the strength of Europe(and the world) as a whole. (I think)After Britain is gone, Ireland and Baltic/Scandinavian countries will soon follow, then the rest of northwest Europe until the Union collapses.
.. then again I'm just typing this out my arse.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Jacey521 wrote:
Britain/France/Germany are the strongest countries in the EU, Britain leaving will have catastrophic affects on the stability of the EU, and eventually the strength of Europe(and the world) as a whole. (I think)After Britain is gone, Ireland and Baltic/Scandinavian countries will soon follow, then the rest of northwest Europe until the Union collapses.
.. then again I'm just typing this out my arse.
A valid view, but I disagree. For one thing, Brexit isn't simply going to happen, because everyone knows that if it does, Scotland has an emergency referendum, and they'll probably become independent. Even if Brexit occurs, long gone are the days where the UK was the US's sidekick. Britain's only hope of remaining in the G20, and thus in the most powerful countries, lies in staying in the EU.
I also disagree with you Jacey. If Britain leaves the only impact it will have is on itself. Yes, true Europe will loose some fire power, but England is one country amongst many in the E.U. With this being said, this will not have such an effect that you described, plus then England will loose valued allies. Also if trump becomes president, UK will loose it's most valuable ally: USA. And I seriously don't think that the Union will colapse.
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" -George S. Patton "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination" - Albert Einstein
20 Mar 2016, 15:16
FilipALFA wrote:
Jacey521 wrote:
Britain/France/Germany are the strongest countries in the EU, Britain leaving will have catastrophic affects on the stability of the EU, and eventually the strength of Europe(and the world) as a whole. (I think)After Britain is gone, Ireland and Baltic/Scandinavian countries will soon follow, then the rest of northwest Europe until the Union collapses.
.. then again I'm just typing this out my arse.
Pablo22510 wrote:
Jacey521 wrote:
Britain/France/Germany are the strongest countries in the EU, Britain leaving will have catastrophic affects on the stability of the EU, and eventually the strength of Europe(and the world) as a whole. (I think)After Britain is gone, Ireland and Baltic/Scandinavian countries will soon follow, then the rest of northwest Europe until the Union collapses.
.. then again I'm just typing this out my arse.
A valid view, but I disagree. For one thing, Brexit isn't simply going to happen, because everyone knows that if it does, Scotland has an emergency referendum, and they'll probably become independent. Even if Brexit occurs, long gone are the days where the UK was the US's sidekick. Britain's only hope of remaining in the G20, and thus in the most powerful countries, lies in staying in the EU.
I also disagree with you Jacey. If Britain leaves the only impact it will have is on itself. Yes, true Europe will loose some fire power, but England is one country amongst many in the E.U. With this being said, this will not have such an effect that you described, plus then England will loose valued allies. Also if trump becomes president, UK will loose it's most valuable ally: USA. And I seriously don't think that the Union will colapse.
No need to think in terms of firepower. Britain would cause more harm to itself than to the EU, true, and the US isn't as friendly towards Britain as during the Cold War.
The past is a foreign country.
20 Mar 2016, 15:19
Pablo22510 wrote:
No need to think in terms of firepower. Britain would cause more harm to itself than to the EU, true, and the US isn't as friendly towards Britain as during the Cold War.
Pablo, in the last few years BAE Systems( a British company) has designed railguns and lasers for the US. I think they are still pretty friendly.
20 Mar 2016, 15:23
Yeah, but not as friendly as before.
The past is a foreign country.
20 Mar 2016, 15:26
Pablo22510 wrote:
Britain would cause more harm to itself than to the EU, true, and the US isn't as friendly towards Britain as during the Cold War.
Exactly!
"May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't" -George S. Patton "The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination" - Albert Einstein
22 Mar 2016, 10:03
You obviously don't know much about oil, they'll just find new reserves like they have been doing since the start. Or maybe they'll find some on mars.
