US vs UK, Which is better?

Well time for a friendly debate on Which is better, US or the UK? This could be in any area of the countries from economics to political to the UK having better tea.

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Try to have a logical argument (I shall allow mild banter though)


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Militarily, US kicks ass.

The past is a foreign country.

You could say the U.S. military is worse than ours. It makes them look paranoid and controlling. Which some argue they are.

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

But overall they're better. I mean, you don't have B-2s.

The past is a foreign country.

No we don't have 60+ year old bombers that has been proven vulnerable to the latest China AA missile. Overall better how though?

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

Mate, B-2s are not 60 years old, and you're also getting F-35s, so please don't mention the topic of being vulnerable to Chinese AA missiles.

The past is a foreign country.

Oh, thought you said B-52s, lol. It's only stealth when I can't look into the sky and see a big-ass bomber flying overhead. I can mention the topic of being vulnerable to Chinese stuff, it's still American made gadgetry.

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

So there military is better how? Don't avoid the question.

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

comrade dave wrote:

So there military is better how? Don't avoid the question.
*their

Yes, it is. More manpower, more CVs, more nuclear warheads, more budget, more aircraft, more nuclear submarines, and generally equal or better equipment. Plus the CIA has unlimited budget.

http://www.businessinsider.com/35-most-powerful-militaries-in-the-world-2014-7

The past is a foreign country.

Pablo22510 wrote:

Yes, it is. More manpower, more CVs, more nuclear warheads, more budget, more aircraft, more nuclear submarines, and generally equal or better equipment. Plus the CIA has unlimited budget.
Wouldn't all this be a negative though really, the U.S has really kicked the hornet's nest ever since the 1950s really and made plenty of enemies. It almost destroyed humanity several times because of it's oversized armed forces.

Pablo22510 wrote:

CIA
Military, not nosey torture loving, terrorist funding snoops.
British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

comrade dave wrote:

Pablo22510 wrote:

Yes, it is. More manpower, more CVs, more nuclear warheads, more budget, more aircraft, more nuclear submarines, and generally equal or better equipment. Plus the CIA has unlimited budget.
Wouldn't all this be a negative though really, the U.S has really kicked the hornet's nest ever since the 1950s really and made plenty of enemies. It almost destroyed humanity several times because of it's oversized armed forces.

Pablo22510 wrote:

CIA
Military, not nosey torture loving, terrorist funding snoops.
  1. Not a negative point. If they attack you, you have a bigger army to defend yourself.
  2. CIA does torture, but it's torture methods aren't as bad as ISIS's or as the NKVD. And they don't fund terrorists.
The past is a foreign country.

The CIA funded the Mujhadeen which turned out to be the taliban and Al Qeuda in disguise. People say they funded Bin Laden, for example:

Robin Cook, Foreign Secretary in the UK from 1997–2001, believed the CIA had provided arms to the Arab Mujahideen, including Osama bin Laden, writing, "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan." His source for this is unclear.[2]

If your army wasn't that big and your foreign policy was more than: We don't agree *Air Strike* You need financial, disaster, medical aid? *Airstrike* People wouldn't feel threatened and therefore stand up to you.

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

UK may have smaller land forces, due to much smaller population and the fact we don't massively engage on land since were an island. But our SAS are the best special forces in the world and the most feared. Its not the size of an army but how well trained and equipped it is and how it's used. No offence to americans but my Grandad fought in the korean war with the US and was almost killed by them multiple times, once he was in a tent waiting to go home and heard a whistling noise go past his ear and then looked up to see that the american in front of him accidentally fired his gun and almost killed him. My grandad always say's the americans are less professional in the army and at times complete idiots.


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Have you ever watched army fails on youtube? Most of the time it's bored American servicemen doing stupid things like picking fights with goats or running at locked and reinforced doors.

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

comrade dave wrote:

The CIA funded the Mujhadeen which turned out to be the taliban and Al Qeuda in disguise. People say they funded Bin Laden, for example:

Robin Cook, Foreign Secretary in the UK from 1997–2001, believed the CIA had provided arms to the Arab Mujahideen, including Osama bin Laden, writing, "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan." His source for this is unclear.[2]

If your army wasn't that big and your foreign policy was more than: We don't agree *Air Strike* You need financial, disaster, medical aid? *Airstrike* People wouldn't feel threatened and therefore stand up to you.

They did, but the mujaheddin weren't terrorists back in the day,
The past is a foreign country.

comrade dave wrote:

Have you ever watched army fails on youtube? Most of the time it's bored American servicemen doing stupid things like picking fights with goats or running at locked and reinforced doors.
I have, I have :D
The past is a foreign country.

comrade dave wrote:

running at locked and reinforced doors
Link to any good ones, sounds like it would be really funny

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British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

When that rocket stopped in mid air, everyone was like "Well...F***". And that door ram though :D .


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Lol, ik. My fav one was the American soldier charging with his rifle and falling. The grenade ones were funny too.

The past is a foreign country.

The door bursts open and then a motionless body lies underneath the crumpled remains of the door. The once lifeless body sits up with a massive grin, brilliant.

British=best. Duh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk

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