So recently me and my friend @Pablo22510 , actually not recently, but always were arguing about Rommel. I said that he was a Nazi and Pablo said that he wasn't a Nazi and that he was not aware of the concentration camps in Germany and other countries. Pablo this will most likely prove you wrong.
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hardly a Nazi..
dont know where you heard of that idea... although he was an early admirer of Hitler..
Not sure on the camps do, but dont think he knew,,
By the beginning of 1943, Rommel's faith in Germany's ability to win the war was crumbling, as was his estimation of Hitler. Touring Germany, Rommel was appalled at the devastation of the Allied bombing raids and the erosion of the peoples' morale. He also learned for the first time of the death camps, slave labor, the extermination of the Jews and the other atrocities of the Nazi regime. Rommel became convinced that victory for Germany was a lost cause and that prolonging the war would lead only to his homeland's devastation. He came in contact with members of a growing conspiracy dedicated to ousting Hitler and establishing a separate peace with the western allies.
On July 17, 1944, British aircraft strafed Rommel's staff car, severely wounding the Field Marshall. He was taken to a hospital and then to his home in Germany to convalesce. Three days later, an assassin's bomb nearly killed Hitler during a strategy meeting at his headquarters in East Prussia. In the gory reprisals that followed, some suspects implicated Rommel in the plot. Although he may not have been aware of the attempt on Hitler's life, his "defeatist" attitude was enough to warrant Hitler's wrath. The problem for Hitler was how to eliminate Germany's most popular general without revealing to the German people that he had ordered his death. The solution was to force Rommel to commit suicide and announce that his death was due to his battle wounds.
and he was not SS
So far they have NOT proved me wrong, Filip. Btw, I did NOT say Rommel wasn't aware of concentration camps. He WAS, but obviously didn't like them. However, I DID say he was not aware of DEATH CAMPS. Do I really have to explain the difference?
Just what makes a Nazi a Nazi?
The reason are the following, from most to least important:Quasi-duck wrote:
Just what makes a Nazi a Nazi?
These sound a bit, uh, far-fetched.Pablo22510 wrote:
Hating Jews.Hating Communists and Slavs.
Wanting to dominate the world.
Truthful.Quasi-duck wrote:
These sound a bit, uh, far-fetched.Pablo22510 wrote:
Hating Jews.Hating Communists and Slavs.
Wanting to dominate the world.
Thanks for agreeing that it sounds a bit far-fetched.Pablo22510 wrote:
Truthful.
Dude I specifically remember you saying that he was not aware of the concentration camps, nor the death camps. And I had to tell you always that he was aware of both.Pablo22510 wrote:
So far they have NOT proved me wrong, Filip. Btw, I did NOT say Rommel wasn't aware of concentration camps. He WAS, but obviously didn't like them. However, I DID say he was not aware of DEATH CAMPS. Do I really have to explain the difference?
That's not true.FilipALFA wrote:
Dude I specifically remember you saying that he was not aware of the concentration camps, nor the death camps. And I had to tell you always that he was aware of both.Pablo22510 wrote:
So far they have NOT proved me wrong, Filip. Btw, I did NOT say Rommel wasn't aware of concentration camps. He WAS, but obviously didn't like them. However, I DID say he was not aware of DEATH CAMPS. Do I really have to explain the difference?
I was there, Filip is right.Pablo22510 wrote:
That's not true.FilipALFA wrote:
Dude I specifically remember you saying that he was not aware of the concentration camps, nor the death camps. And I had to tell you always that he was aware of both.Pablo22510 wrote:
So far they have NOT proved me wrong, Filip. Btw, I did NOT say Rommel wasn't aware of concentration camps. He WAS, but obviously didn't like them. However, I DID say he was not aware of DEATH CAMPS. Do I really have to explain the difference?
Lol.Quasi-duck wrote:
I was there, Filip is right.Pablo22510 wrote:
That's not true.FilipALFA wrote:
Dude I specifically remember you saying that he was not aware of the concentration camps, nor the death camps. And I had to tell you always that he was aware of both.Pablo22510 wrote:
So far they have NOT proved me wrong, Filip. Btw, I did NOT say Rommel wasn't aware of concentration camps. He WAS, but obviously didn't like them. However, I DID say he was not aware of DEATH CAMPS. Do I really have to explain the difference?
For some one to be a legit nazi they would have to join the political party, like all in the SS and most officers but Rommel was apart of the Wehrmacht witch was just the german army. He was not ever sworn into the Nazi party nor did he have a part in the killing of jews or the concentration camps. He was actually apart of the plot to kill Hitler. So to say he was a nazi not true, And a nazi is a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Like as i said you had to join prove you where of aryan decent and swear into the party.
I've a book about Rommel based on his personal journals a while ago. (Not creepy at all). This is what I found. Rommel knew nothing about the killing of the Jews, though he did hear from his wife (this information was received via mail, I think) that several families had disappeared, though she did not say whether it had anything to do with the Nazis. He assumed that the letters he got from home were censored. Later in the war Rommel concluded that Hitler was crazy, and he didn't have the intelligence or the mental stability to rule Germany, though he continued to serve under him.
Rommel was not a Nazi, but I think that there was no way that he couldn't know about the concentration camps. He was involved in the plot against Hitler, but I'm honestly not sure how involved he was. I have to say though, if Hitler had listened to Rommel more, he might've won the war.
Saying that german general was not aware of the atrocities commited by Germans during Hitler's rule is absolute nonsense. Common people trough all Europe knew about the camps so there is no way he couldn't know.
In that case, thanks god he didn't.Kehsct wrote:
I have to say though, if Hitler had listened to Rommel more, he might've won the war.
No one except top Nazi officials knew about death camps. Rommel only found out in '43, which was when he started trying to ovethrow Hitler. He did know about concentration camps, and it was one of the reasons why he has disenchanted with Hitler. However, he didn't know the degree of the Nazi atrocities. Even the British and the Germans say this. He's got monuments all over Stutgart, and Churchill said it was a pity he wasn't British.Paramunac wrote:
Saying that german general was not aware of the atrocities commited by Germans during Hitler's rule is absolute nonsense. Common people trough all Europe knew about the camps so there is no way he couldn't know.
Really? Even Polish turncoats knew about them.Pablo22510 wrote:
No one except top Nazi officials knew about death camps
No, man. Very few people knew about them. It would've been bad for morale. Rommel foud out in late '43.Quasi-duck wrote:
Really? Even Polish turncoats knew about them.
What I'm saying is your wrong about only officials knowing as the SS and hired Jews, Poles, Ukrainians etc. had to guard the camps.Pablo22510 wrote:
No, man. Very few people knew about them. It would've been bad for morale. Rommel foud out in late '43.
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