I will take issue with you on all of that. While you might argue that it is a "war song" it is also a national anthem, it was written during the War of 1812 when the UK invaded and attacked the US. Which brings me to the major objection of your post, other than the Invasion of Iraq tell me a war in the 250 year history of the US where
z00mz00m wrote:
We love to start wars.
Especially in other countries, safely far away.......
I will remind you to tread carefully as you are very close to nation bashing which is a violation of the TOS. If you wish to continue this discussion we might want to start a new thread.
"Strategy is the art of making use of time and space. I am less concerned about the later than the former. Space we can recover, lost time never." ~ Napoleon Bonaparte "Anyone who has to fight, even with the most modern weapons, against an enemy in complete command of the air, fights like a savage against modern European troops, under the same handicaps and with the same chances of success." ~ Erwin Rommel
17 Sept 2022, 22:52
LOL
It's important to know your own history, compadre.
17 Sept 2022, 23:49
S Schmidt wrote:
I will take issue with you on all of that. While you might argue that it is a "war song" it is also a national anthem, it was written during the War of 1812 when the UK invaded and attacked the US. Which brings me to the major objection of your post, other than the Invasion of Iraq tell me a war in the 250 year history of the US where
z00mz00m wrote:
We love to start wars.
Especially in other countries, safely far away.......
I will remind you to tread carefully as you are very close to nation bashing which is a violation of the TOS. If you wish to continue this discussion we might want to start a new thread.
I’m a former US Marine and consider myself reasonably well versed in US military history. I even participated in that invasion of Iraq you’re talking about. How many examples are you looking for exactly?
I’ll invite you to learn more about US history.
I’ll recommend you learn about any of the Banana Wars, the Spanish American War, or the Philippine-American War.
If a national anthem counts as a war song, I’d definitely recommend The Marine’s Hymn. I’m not biased at all.
21 Sept 2022, 23:08
Der offene Aufmarsch
Diplomacy First, While Arms are Readied. Für Gott, König, und Reich.
24 Sept 2022, 21:17
Best melody: Pasodobles (spanish traditional music)
"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting." - Sun Tzu "Diplomacy works with leverage!" -Krieg Maker "We can wage an attrition war forever with no goal, if one is found otherwise!" -Krieg Maker "The difference between flirting and diplomacy is that the former requires flattery, the latter requires assurance. Be sure to be in the position of power when trying to win through diplomacy!" -Krieg Maker
27 Mar 2023, 20:36
S Schmidt wrote:
I will take issue with you on all of that. While you might argue that it is a "war song" it is also a national anthem, it was written during the War of 1812 when the UK invaded and attacked the US. Which brings me to the major objection of your post, other than the Invasion of Iraq tell me a war in the 250 year history of the US where
z00mz00m wrote:
We love to start wars.
Especially in other countries, safely far away.......
I will remind you to tread carefully as you are very close to nation bashing which is a violation of the TOS. If you wish to continue this discussion we might want to start a new thread.
Ah easy! Here we go!
Afganistan
Vietnam
10+ Latin American countries (Cuba, Panama, etc..)
Germany in ww1, even if provoked US declared
War of 1812 ironically, while the UK was busy with the napoleonic wars.
Many attacks on the Native Americans, many breaking signed peace agreements.
Spanish-American war 1898
Many more…
While the US was provoked into many of these wars, they still attacked, and therefore are countries the US started war with.
20 May 2023, 06:04
Carking the 6th wrote:
S Schmidt wrote:
I will take issue with you on all of that. While you might argue that it is a "war song" it is also a national anthem, it was written during the War of 1812 when the UK invaded and attacked the US. Which brings me to the major objection of your post, other than the Invasion of Iraq tell me a war in the 250 year history of the US where
I will remind you to tread carefully as you are very close to nation bashing which is a violation of the TOS. If you wish to continue this discussion we might want to start a new thread.
His premise is the wrong way round any. The US declared war first and invaded Canada. They got kicked out and the British then launched a counteroffensive, burning the capital and invading New Orleans out of the Carribean.
It was an offensive war on the US's part, albeit due to grievances on both sides.
Aeroplanes are interesting toys but of no military value. — Marshal Foch A pretty mechanical toy [...] the war will never be won by such machines. — Lord Kitchener, on tanks
20 May 2023, 19:17
Lord Crayfish wrote:
Carking the 6th wrote:
S Schmidt wrote:
I will take issue with you on all of that. While you might argue that it is a "war song" it is also a national anthem, it was written during the War of 1812 when the UK invaded and attacked the US. Which brings me to the major objection of your post, other than the Invasion of Iraq tell me a war in the 250 year history of the US where
I will remind you to tread carefully as you are very close to nation bashing which is a violation of the TOS. If you wish to continue this discussion we might want to start a new thread.
His premise is the wrong way round any. The US declared war first and invaded Canada. They got kicked out and the British then launched a counteroffensive, burning the capital and invading New Orleans out of the Carribean.It was an offensive war on the US's part, albeit due to grievances on both sides.
I think he meant after beating them back they invaded and attacked them? Then again I’m not sure seeing that they didn’t think the US had launched offensive wars I am probably wrong.
21 May 2024, 10:47
Hello everyone!))
21 May 2024, 18:03
BMfox wrote:
Sabaton is a Swedish heavy metal band that creates songs about historical war events.
Aeroplanes are interesting toys but of no military value. — Marshal Foch A pretty mechanical toy [...] the war will never be won by such machines. — Lord Kitchener, on tanks
Aeroplanes are interesting toys but of no military value. — Marshal Foch A pretty mechanical toy [...] the war will never be won by such machines. — Lord Kitchener, on tanks
