Red Army! The Germans fled in instead of fighting the Red.Maximilien wrote:
Red Army.Not A Communist wrote:
Who was the most FEARED Army though?
7 Apr 2016, 21:05
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What was the best army in WW2? II.
What was the best army in WW2?
The Red Army:
The British Army:
The USA Army:
The Japonese Army:
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The Germany Army, "The Wehrmacht"
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This is a debate.
Rules of the debate:
-Will have to provide information from by that you think that your choice is the best army.
-You shall respect the forum rules.
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7 Apr 2016, 21:09
I'd be scared of being captured by the Red Army, but fighting against the Germans would be VERY scary.Quasi-duck wrote:
Red Army! The Germans fled in instead of fighting the Red.Maximilien wrote:
Red Army.Not A Communist wrote:
Who was the most FEARED Army though?
7 Apr 2016, 21:11
Germans........Not A Communist wrote:
Who was the most FEARED Army though?
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
7 Apr 2016, 21:13
Completely agree with that. I'm not going to be found anywhere near a non-blitzkrieg German tank. I'd rather not be firing a bazooka at a King Tiger (Tiger Royal/Tiger 2).oceanhawk wrote:
Germans........Not A Communist wrote:
Who was the most FEARED Army though?
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
7 Apr 2016, 21:13 (edited)
Not really. Unless you want to bring the Einzatgruppen in to this.oceanhawk wrote:
Germans........
From a German account of the Battle of Kursk I read, fighting the Reds was horrible. In the tank battles, when one tank fell, two would take it's place.Not A Communist wrote:
I'd be scared of being captured by the Red Army, but fighting against the Germans would be VERY scary.
7 Apr 2016, 21:15
It is actually a Bengal Tiger, I believeKehsct wrote:
. I'd rather not be firing a bazooka at a King Tiger (Tiger Royal/Tiger 2).
I used to do the same. Anyways, the Germans practiced combined arms, like everyone else, so trying to sneak up on them would be nasty anyhow.7 Apr 2016, 21:15
Yeah, it's called Communism. Turn into an industrial superpower if possible, justify the killing of millions of people, and don't care about quality, but quantity.Quasi-duck wrote:
From a German account of the Battle of Kursk I read, fighting the reads was horrible. In the tank battles, when one tank fell, two would take it's place.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
7 Apr 2016, 21:15
Kehsct wrote:
Completely agree with that. I'm not going to be found anywhere near a non-blitzkrieg German tank. I'd rather not be firing a bazooka at a King Tiger (Tiger Royal/Tiger 2).oceanhawk wrote:
Germans........Not A Communist wrote:
Who was the most FEARED Army though?
only would be firing that bazooka from space.. only safe place from a King Tiger...
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
7 Apr 2016, 21:17
Actually, it is called Deep Operations and is a legitimate tactic. Human waves are the Japanese kinda thing. Oh, Chinese too.Kehsct wrote:
Turn into an industrial superpower if possible, justify the killing of millions of people, and don't care about quality, but quantity.
Or, you know, behind it. Or an IS-3. Or maybe a Wolverine.oceanhawk wrote:
only would be firing that bazooka from space.. only safe place from a King Tiger...
7 Apr 2016, 21:18
Well, make that the 5th name for the Tiger II (forgot to add Panzer VI? or is it VII?)Quasi-duck wrote:
It is actually a Bengal Tiger, I believeKehsct wrote:
. I'd rather not be firing a bazooka at a King Tiger (Tiger Royal/Tiger 2).
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
7 Apr 2016, 21:20
Would you guys rather live under Fascism or Communism?
7 Apr 2016, 21:20
The Tiger is the VI, the Panther is the V. I believe the Maus was the VII but not sure.Kehsct wrote:
Well, make that the 5th name for the Tiger II (forgot to add Panzer VI? or is it VII?)
7 Apr 2016, 21:20
Still not putting my men into steel deathtraps. I'd rather be an industrial superpower focusing on quality rather than quantity.Quasi-duck wrote:
Actually, it is called Deep Operations and is a legitimate tactic. Human waves are the Japanese kinda thing. Oh, Chinese too.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
7 Apr 2016, 21:21
Communism, lasted longer.Not A Communist wrote:
Communism?
7 Apr 2016, 21:21
I think the Maus is VIII. But then what's VII?Quasi-duck wrote:
The Tiger is the VI, the Panther is the V. I believe the Maus was the VII but not sure.Kehsct wrote:
Well, make that the 5th name for the Tiger II (forgot to add Panzer VI? or is it VII?)
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
7 Apr 2016, 21:22
The T-34 fared extremely well. Only early Soviet tanks were death traps, just like any other countries early tank designs.Kehsct wrote:
Still not putting my men into steel deathtraps.
Even the Yanks know a fair amount of quantity will do better than quality.Kehsct wrote:
I'd rather be an industrial superpower focusing on quality rather than quantity.
7 Apr 2016, 21:23
The Lion.Kehsct wrote:
But then what's VII?
7 Apr 2016, 21:23
I still think space is safer. I'm not allowing a turret to be able to shoot me.Quasi-duck wrote:
Or, you know, behind it. Or an IS-3. Or maybe a Wolverine.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
7 Apr 2016, 21:23
you wanted evidence for 1 gun 2 men...
enemy of the gates as well as somewhere else
as well as from these sources
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090816193105AAGjb4X (dodgy on for cross checking)
http://historum.com/war-military-history/26022-red-army-ww2-1-rifle-2-men-3.html
I have it in another book, I look for it now..
hearing reports of 1 gun for 4men at one stage
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
7 Apr 2016, 21:26
True, the T-34 did do well, but I'd still prefer a tank that might be able to resist several 88mm rounds. Plus, we Americans lost a lot of men that didn't need to die because of military mistakes. The normal Sherman couldn't pierce a Tiger's armor or resist an 88mm shell. Our troop distribution tactics late war were also bad.Quasi-duck wrote:
The T-34 fared extremely well. Only early Soviet tanks were death traps, just like any other countries early tank designs.Kehsct wrote:
Still not putting my men into steel deathtraps.Even the Yanks know a fair amount of quantity will do better than quality.Kehsct wrote:
I'd rather be an industrial superpower focusing on quality rather than quantity.
Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
-Winston Churchill
Attack rapidly, ruthlessly, viciously, without rest, however tired and hungry you may be, the enemy will be more tired, more hungry. Keep punching.
-George S. Patton
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