their existing equipment was outdated, most of their tanks were 1920-es models,Titantc wrote:
"way behind technologically at the beginning of the war."common myth
8 Apr 2016, 14:36
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What was the best army in WW2? II.
What was the best army in WW2?
The Red Army:
The British Army:
The USA Army:
The Japonese Army:
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The Germany Army, "The Wehrmacht"
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This is a debate.
Rules of the debate:
-Will have to provide information from by that you think that your choice is the best army.
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8 Apr 2016, 19:55
It is the same with other countries too. By the middle of the war the German army was a hodge-podge of whatever they could get their sausage-covered hands on. They even had some French and British WWI-era tanks.MihailMD wrote:
their existing equipment was outdated, most of their tanks were 1920-es models,
8 Apr 2016, 21:11
I read in a Forsyth book, that in a fight with equal numbers, the Wehrmacht could beat ANY WW2 opponent. Couldn't agree more.
The past is a foreign country.
8 Apr 2016, 21:24
It's possible! The German army was a good army, but did not have sufficient resources and supplies on the Eastern front.Pablo22510 wrote:
I read in a Forsyth book, that in a fight with equal numbers, the Wehrmacht could beat ANY WW2 opponent. Couldn't agree more.
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
8 Apr 2016, 21:31
Of course, but in equal numbers it could beat anyone.Maximilien wrote:
It's possible! The German army was a good army, but did not have sufficient resources and supplies on the Eastern front.Pablo22510 wrote:
I read in a Forsyth book, that in a fight with equal numbers, the Wehrmacht could beat ANY WW2 opponent. Couldn't agree more.
The past is a foreign country.
8 Apr 2016, 21:37
German army lacked supplies cos of their fronts against the allies...
The soviets had supplies cos of the allies.. the USA and more importantly The UK are the only reason the USSR survived
The Germans are just a great bunch of people... 70 odd years after the war, and they an economic powerhouse, and the most powerful nation in Europe economical and Fiscal wise
they were even 20years after the war,, only problem with there successes was from the fact that the communists ran the east, and that was s shame, cos that held back Germany hugely even to this day, there is inequality between east and west Germany...
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8 Apr 2016, 21:38
Correct.Pablo22510 wrote:
Of course, but in equal numbers it could beat anyone.Maximilien wrote:
It's possible! The German army was a good army, but did not have sufficient resources and supplies on the Eastern front.Pablo22510 wrote:
I read in a Forsyth book, that in a fight with equal numbers, the Wehrmacht could beat ANY WW2 opponent. Couldn't agree more.
"I came, I saw, I conquered" Written in a report to Rome 47 B.C., after conquering Pharnaces at Zela in Asia Minor in just five days; as quoted in Life of Caesar by Plutarch; reported to have been inscribed on one of the decorated wagons in the Pontic triumph, in Lives of the Twelve Caesars, Julius, by Suetonius.
"Alea iacta est" Gaius Julius Caesar.
8 Apr 2016, 21:46
oceanhawk wrote:
German army lacked supplies cos of their fronts against the allies...The soviets had supplies cos of the allies.. the USA and more importantly The UK are the only reason the USSR survived
The Germans are just a great bunch of people... 70 odd years after the war, and they an economic powerhouse, and the most powerful nation in Europe economical and Fiscal wise
they were even 20years after the war,, only problem with there successes was from the fact that the communists ran the east, and that was s shame, cos that held back Germany hugely even to this day, there is inequality between east and west Germany...
Nobody denies Germans their practicality and economic prowess. But USSR would have held out even without USA and UK, their help was not as significant as you may think.
Russia has not really lost a Major war since the Mongols
8 Apr 2016, 21:48
cough cough cold war...MihailMD wrote:
Russia has not really lost a Major war since the MongolsNobody denies Germans their practicality and economic prowess. But USSR would have held out even without USA and UK, their help was not as significant as you may think.
Afghanistan
cough cough
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
8 Apr 2016, 21:54
Cold war wasn't a real war, just a load of weapons.oceanhawk wrote:
cough cough cold war...
Ah yes, Afghanistan, where Empires go to die. What do you expect? Even the US had trouble there. Besides, no country can win all the time, America certainly hasn't and the UK didn't either.oceanhawk wrote:
Afghanistan
8 Apr 2016, 21:57
point is, you said that the Soviets never lost
yea they did... lost in Afghanistan..
lost the cold war, which lead to one of the best moments of all time 
the fall of communism in Russia
now the nations a lot better, Im gonna try go holidays there...
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
8 Apr 2016, 22:04
I did not, it is fairly obvious they did.oceanhawk wrote:
point is, you said that the Soviets never lost
Where empires go to die.....oceanhawk wrote:
lost in Afghanistan..
It isn't a war, it was an arms race. Do you even know what "cold" means in military terms....?oceanhawk wrote:
lost the cold war
8 Apr 2016, 22:06
Yes it never heated up.. basic knowledge here.. think we all ahead of you...Quasi-duck wrote:
I did not, it is fairly obvious they did.oceanhawk wrote:
point is, you said that the Soviets never lostWhere empires go to die.....oceanhawk wrote:
lost in Afghanistan..It isn't a war, it was an arms race. Do you even know what "cold" means in military terms....?oceanhawk wrote:
lost the cold war
Things heated up plenty of times.. just not directly.
Americans won.. wasnt easy, but they got the job done
so if the soviet union and Communism is so great.. tell me why it fell?
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
8 Apr 2016, 22:09
You can't read, can you? Not a war, an arms race. Never got hot, USSR and USA never came into contact, saying the US won is a blatant lie and a moronic statement that will reflect on a persons mental capacity poorly.oceanhawk wrote:
Yes it never heated up.. basic knowledge here.. think we all ahead of you...Things heated up plenty of times.. just not directly.
Americans won.. wasnt easy, but they got the job done
US Imperialism.oceanhawk wrote:
so if the soviet union and Communism is so great.. tell me why it fell?
8 Apr 2016, 22:12
so the Vietnam war, had nothing to do with the Soviet Union..Quasi-duck wrote:
You can't read, can you? Not a war, an arms race. Never got hot, USSR and USA never came into contact, saying the US won is a blatant lie and a moronic statement that will reflect on a persons mental capacity poorly.oceanhawk wrote:
Yes it never heated up.. basic knowledge here.. think we all ahead of you...Things heated up plenty of times.. just not directly.
Americans won.. wasnt easy, but they got the job done
US Imperialism.oceanhawk wrote:
so if the soviet union and Communism is so great.. tell me why it fell?
and Korea...
and wait a sec.. the Americans had better weapons during the war as well..
so because of the failure of a capitalistic nation the communist nation fell?
Think more like people are not idiots, and know that Capitalism is the best...
North Korea VS South Korea
or even look at the socialist state of Venezuela
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
8 Apr 2016, 22:16
No, mostly China. Have you heard of a proxy war? You should look it up, these things never end. By the by, 'Nam was a catastrophic US failure.oceanhawk wrote:
so the Vietnam war,
Of course the US is going to have better weapons than a new nations Guerrilla army. They could use them well though as both the US and the French pulled out.oceanhawk wrote:
the Americans had better weapons during the war as well..
8 Apr 2016, 22:18
My point is that the soviets intervened in korea.. didnt work
They intervened in Afghanistan... didnt work.. got their As3 kicked
they didn't intervene hugely in Nam... fair enough..
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
8 Apr 2016, 22:21
USSR did not want to, you should know if you knew anything about the war.oceanhawk wrote:
My point is that the soviets intervened in korea.. didnt work
Once again, empires go there to die. No one wins in Afghanistan, not even the US.oceanhawk wrote:
They intervened in Afghanistan... didnt work..
8 Apr 2016, 22:25
yea... US won,, took them a while but they got it over
yes.. well North Korea still flying the mig50s they got from USSR
If Socialists understood Economics, they wouldn't be socialists
-Friedrich von Haye
8 Apr 2016, 22:35
Talking about that reminds me of a story my Granddad told me. He fought in the Korean War, he was one of the troops sent from Britain. He worked a lot with the Americans, and once in the big tent where they sleep (Forgot the name for it) he was relaxing on his bed when something hot scraped past his ear slightly cutting it. It turns out the american across from him was polishing his gun and he forgot to turn on the safety and remove the ammo. He accidentally shot the weapon and almost shot my Granddad in the head. Granddad says "Americans are well equipped and friendly, but complete idiots"
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